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Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Our latest pod-sode is out for all of you to enjoy, this time even with a Famous Guest Appearance. We mainly talk the Bern, but also Corbyn and more.

https://twitter.com/PraxisCast/status/1257329737841676294?s=20

Please enjoy to your ears' content.

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mehall
Aug 27, 2010


I'm hearing a rumour Johanna Baxter is tipped to be on the shortlist for new Labour GS.

She's one of the worst shits Scottish Labour have going.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

ronya posted:

the PM is Actually Boris Johnson; in the current period it might not be too strange to suppose that some advisor has similarly rifled through Gove's bookshelves to put sufficiently right-wing books on it and remove any leftie stuff

Gove is the living incarnation of the "if you are not socialist at 20" trope, remember.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
71 free courses from Harvard (4-12 weeks duration, I believe you can get a certificate).
Computer touching, politics, religion....

https://online-learning.harvard.edu/catalog/free

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 16:46 on May 4, 2020

Puntification
Nov 4, 2009

Black Orthodontromancy
The most British Magic

Fun Shoe

mehall posted:

I'm hearing a rumour Johanna Baxter is tipped to be on the shortlist for new Labour GS.

She's one of the worst shits Scottish Labour have going.

loving lol if we put any of the losers from Scottish Labour near anything that isn't a woodchipper.

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

This is some of the most pretentious loving poo poo I've ever seen

Here's my "day on a plate"

Breakfast: Sainsbury's own brand crunchy clusters cereal. It's got pecans in it which is the closest I'll be getting to seeds all loving day

Lunch: ham cheese and pickle sandwich and a glass of juice, which has one ingredient (orange) instead of 15 loving exotic fruits from every corner of the god drat planet

Dinner: a microwavable chicken tikka marsala that was 75% off and a day out of date because gently caress you

My day on a plate today:
05:50 Pot of coffee
09:00 Banana and instant coffee
12:00 Lunch, some stuff I got for free, surplus rations they deliver to old people basically. Literally meat and potatoes.
14:00 more instant coffee
18:30 Finally home, with pizzas and kebab

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Putting ScotLab in charge would be the most jokerfied outcome.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/may/04/cost-of-public-transport-should-be-raised-as-lockdown-ends-ifs

quote:

Cost of public transport should be raised as lockdown ends – IFS

The price of a bus, train or tube ticket during peak commuting hours could be raised to prevent crowding and the spread of coronavirus on public transport, according to a leading thinktank.

Setting out a menu of options to end the government lockdown as ministers consider ways to reopen the British economy, the Institute for Fiscal Studies said discouraging public transport use during peak times could limit overcrowding and reduce the risks to public health.

Cool, getting home on time is only for rich people. Who don't use public transport anyway. Must be fun working in these think tanks and just guessing what people's lives are like. Maybe just scrap every oval office having to work 9-5 instead of making them pay more to get to work at some minimum wage bullshit office?

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



forkboy84 posted:

but my record collection? That's alphabetical by artist and then chronological by release date of each album

This is something I need to get on with a redo now I've started listening to my collection again.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

justcola posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/may/04/cost-of-public-transport-should-be-raised-as-lockdown-ends-ifs


Cool, getting home on time is only for rich people. Who don't use public transport anyway. Must be fun working in these think tanks and just guessing what people's lives are like. Maybe just scrap every oval office having to work 9-5 instead of making them pay more to get to work at some minimum wage bullshit office?

Like anybody's getting on a rush hour tube for fun, they're getting on it because bosses are petty tyrants who insist people be at their dersk at exactly 0900.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

His Divine Shadow posted:

My day on a plate today:
05:50 Pot of coffee
09:00 Banana and instant coffee
12:00 Lunch, some stuff I got for free, surplus rations they deliver to old people basically. Literally meat and potatoes.
14:00 more instant coffee
18:30 Finally home, with pizzas and kebab

My day on a plate so far today (did not sleep well last night, was still awake at 530am).

11:15 coffee #1 + 2 aspirins as bad headache
12:00 coffee #2 + savoury rice
14:00 satchet plain oats porridged with milk (I need it rationed in packets else I gobble it all in one go).
15:00 2 satchets plain oats porridged with milk
15:30 - 16:00 nanna nap
16:00 coffee #3
16:30 protein whey powder with milk (dieting experiment that failed after 2 days but I still have the powder).
17:00 protein when powder with milk

Upcoming:
a potato+bacon+onion pack thing with 2 eggs
2 small apples that really ought to get eaten today.
1 more coffee

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

(Note that I don't actually *mind* her as a figure on the Labour right, and if they were all like her we would have a much better party, I'm just trying to soften the blow for everyone when it turns out she doesn't storm the lectern at Conference waving the Little Red Book)

Yeah it's this. She's one of the "good" Labour Right in that she doesn't seem to have actively undermined the Left, but she's still on the right. It's so depressing that that's the bar to pass, and that like 95% of the fuckers don't even make it.

E: My day on a plate, for yesterday.

Wake up at 10:30. Snooze in bed and finally crawl out of it at ~11:10.

12:00 - Three slices of cheese on toast, one with marmite, one with some leftover Indian coriander/chilli/garlic chutney on, one with herbs, on white bread.
13:00 - Strong coffee with semi-skimmed milk, plus maple syrup, leaving me unpleasantly wired for the afternoon.
19:15 - Pasta with mushroom and green pepper sauce (from a jar) with added peas, sweetcorn and brocolli (all frozen).
21:30 - The last of a tub of Ben & Jerry's Cherry Garcia, along with the start of a pot of Ben & Jerry's Half Baked, plus trail mix on the top (roasted salted nuts, raisins and smarties).

WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 17:41 on May 4, 2020

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I don't know why - other than the fact she was RLB's flatmate - anybody ever thought she was anything more than a bog-standard Labour right figure. There's literally nothing anywhere in her background to suggest it, and I was *deeply* suspicious of the way she ran up nominations from the PLP (never even offering to donate nominations to others and blocking people on Twitter for suggesting she might supply the numbers needed to get Dawn Butler on the ballot.

I suppose not taking part in the Chicken Coup was a big plus for her, and fair play to her, but that's pretty much it.

(Note that I don't actually *mind* her as a figure on the Labour right, and if they were all like her we would have a much better party, I'm just trying to soften the blow for everyone when it turns out she doesn't storm the lectern at Conference waving the Little Red Book)

yeah I never got why people were so wild about her for deputy, like she'd really made her mark as a major figure. She'd seemed decent in education and she had a few good speeches, but her biggest thing seemed to be staring down Farage and telling him to meet her in the car park on national TV, which I mean, fair do's

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
do labour routinely announce membership numbers? it seems like they were doing so relatively frequently under Corbyn, but I assume that's because they were going up

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

hemale in pain posted:

i'm surprised people are trying to spin that excess hospitals and beds are a bad thing because government bad rather than it being a good thing because there wasn't as many deaths as we feared there could be.

They're letting loads of people die in care homes, and at home generally, without them ever being to hospital. This is why the actual death figures are more than twice as much as what the reported official figures are.

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
The only reason I didn't have exactly the same lunch today as I do maybe 13 days out of 14 (it saves wasting time and mental effort wondering what I'm going to eat) is because one of our dogs jumped up on the table while my back was turned and ate half my sweet chilli hummus, Quorn imitation turkey slice, Dijon mustard and extra-mature cheddar cheese sandwich, the little bastard.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Pickles's day on a plate: v good noms

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.







I'm doing a social distancing at about 200 metres and entirely no 'rona.

maybe 400 metres would be twice as better

Payndz posted:

The only reason I didn't have exactly the same lunch today as I do maybe 13 days out of 14 (it saves wasting time and mental effort wondering what I'm going to eat) is because one of our dogs jumped up on the table while my back was turned and ate half my sweet chilli hummus, Quorn imitation turkey slice, Dijon mustard and extra-mature cheddar cheese sandwich, the little bastard.

Use enough mustard and the cat won't go near, or at least the second time they will be wary. Or hot sauce. My old dear cat used to give me the stink eye whenever he saw me reaching for either

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

DesperateDan posted:

Use enough mustard and the cat won't go near, or at least the second time they will be wary. Or hot sauce. My old dear cat used to give me the stink eye whenever he saw me reaching for either

I know we're living in strange times but last I checked cats still aren't dogs.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

justcola posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/may/04/cost-of-public-transport-should-be-raised-as-lockdown-ends-ifs


Cool, getting home on time is only for rich people. Who don't use public transport anyway. Must be fun working in these think tanks and just guessing what people's lives are like. Maybe just scrap every oval office having to work 9-5 instead of making them pay more to get to work at some minimum wage bullshit office?
this plan bears so little relation to reality that it's not even a "perfectly spherical commuters in an evacuated train carriage" grade approximation that I'm sure they haven't even begun to consider it, but I'd like to see one of these fuckers explain what this would actually look like in practice

like you finish work at 5, can't get the 5.15 home because it's prohibitively expensive, so you get the 6.15 instead, what are you doing for that extra hour? just hanging around the station or wandering the streets? how is that helping keep people home

also, you have to pick a price that is prohibitively expensive to enough people without making a bunch of other people who could afford the higher prices decide it's worth hanging around for an hour for the cheaper train, or everyone just gets the later one anyway

also also, it's telling how, even having written off actually doing anything (e.g. making the train companies run more trains, rationing train tickets for people who absolutely have to commute to work) as being too much like communism, their instinct is to raise prices for earlier trains rather than lower them for later ones

beginning to think the IFS might be a bunch of cunts

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

XMNN posted:

beginning to think the IFS might be a bunch of cunts

We prefer the term "cunters", thanks.

(Hi to the probably one other person ITT who gets this reference)

Overminty
Mar 16, 2010

You may wonder what I am doing while reading your posts..

https://twitter.com/misterbrilliant/status/555332506485264384

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I know we're living in strange times but last I checked cats still aren't dogs.

Cats, dogs, ferrets, wildebeests, whatever. If they have mucous membranes and a sense of self preservation they ain't getting near my colmans mustard sandwich with ham and cheese and they aren't even looking longingly at whatever I dumped a bottle of encona extra hot on

If I'm not near hallucinations, it isn't flavour country yet

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

baka kaba posted:

yeah I never got why people were so wild about her for deputy, like she'd really made her mark as a major figure. She'd seemed decent in education and she had a few good speeches, but her biggest thing seemed to be staring down Farage and telling him to meet her in the car park on national TV, which I mean, fair do's

I posted about this during the leadership election, but she was not decent in education. She said academies had their place if they could provide a good service to families and children. A lot of people in education that I know were extremely disappointed with her not willing to go hard on academies being poo poo (which they are).

Nettle Soup
Jan 30, 2010

Oh, and Jones was there too.

Todays meals were: Wake up 10am, 1pm realise I'm hungry, spend a couple of hours cleaning out the chickens and meandering around before realising I've fed everything except myself, crave cake and make a victoria sponge and some bread. 7pm, I have eaten a lot of cake and feel slightly ill.

Here's a picture of a butterfly on a grape vine. I really need to tidy up this half of the garden some time. And reroof my shed now the weather's nicer, the felt got torn off when we had the big winds.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

baka kaba posted:

yeah I never got why people were so wild about her for deputy, like she'd really made her mark as a major figure. She'd seemed decent in education and she had a few good speeches, but her biggest thing seemed to be staring down Farage and telling him to meet her in the car park on national TV, which I mean, fair do's

She's said some pretty stupid things in the past about Posting https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/angela-rayner-ban-anonymous-social-media-abuse-labour-facebook-twitter-a8551716.html

I definitely sypmathise for Dianne Abbott ever going through her Mentions but that doesn't mean we should make the internet rubbish.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

DesperateDan posted:

Cats, dogs, ferrets, wildebeests, whatever. If they have mucous membranes and a sense of self preservation they ain't getting near my colmans mustard sandwich with ham and cheese and they aren't even looking longingly at whatever I dumped a bottle of encona extra hot on
Ferrets are cats.

Sloth Life
Nov 15, 2014

Built for comfort and speed!
Fallen Rib
Breakfast: two pepperoni Chicago town pizzas
Lunch: boiled bacon mashed potatoes and cabbage
Dinner: 2 Southern fried chicken breasts, half a bag of potato wedges
Snacks: cake, three weetabix and sugar, 8 cups of coffee

Why yes I'm a tubber lubber and im wired!

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost
There was talk of various projections of things into the future, how about this one:

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
ASI says holocaust denial is just "a diverse viewpoint"

https://twitter.com/matthewlesh/status/1257219805918216192?s=19

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/one-stupid-tweet-by-owen-jones-confirms-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-hard-left-1.499433

You see, when michael gove collects books by holocaust deniers, it's not antisemitic, becaus he isn't an antisemite. When left wing people do basically anything, it's antisemitic, because they're antisemites.

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

XMNN posted:

this plan bears so little relation to reality that it's not even a "perfectly spherical commuters in an evacuated train carriage" grade approximation that I'm sure they haven't even begun to consider it, but I'd like to see one of these fuckers explain what this would actually look like in practice

like you finish work at 5, can't get the 5.15 home because it's prohibitively expensive, so you get the 6.15 instead, what are you doing for that extra hour? just hanging around the station or wandering the streets? how is that helping keep people home

also, you have to pick a price that is prohibitively expensive to enough people without making a bunch of other people who could afford the higher prices decide it's worth hanging around for an hour for the cheaper train, or everyone just gets the later one anyway

also also, it's telling how, even having written off actually doing anything (e.g. making the train companies run more trains, rationing train tickets for people who absolutely have to commute to work) as being too much like communism, their instinct is to raise prices for earlier trains rather than lower them for later ones

beginning to think the IFS might be a bunch of cunts

Ironically (given just about everything about this gov's pandemic response so far) this is the type of problem that may actually be better solved by behavioural scientists than classical economists.

Eg (timestamped):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8-4JliHzoc&t=1217s

blunt fucked around with this message at 20:28 on May 4, 2020

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



"Anything right of Tonty Blair" doesn't exclude as many books as this person thinks.

Also I love to argue that offering a book to someone from an author who wrote a DIFFERENT book that contained some antisemitism is bad but actually owning books that promote racist views is fine.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

https://www.thejc.com/comment/comment/one-stupid-tweet-by-owen-jones-confirms-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-hard-left-1.499433

You see, when michael gove collects books by holocaust deniers, it's not antisemitic, becaus he isn't an antisemite. When left wing people do basically anything, it's antisemitic, because they're antisemites.

https://twitter.com/alexnunns/status/1257244754930171906?s=19

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Guavanaut posted:

Ferrets are cats.



I think we should check the rulings of the international ferret-legging association of west yorkshire on that subject to be honest

quote:

{Rules and regulations, 137th edition, chapter 3- "equipment and location" subsection B}

upon a ferret being unavailable, or another animal is mistakenly used and this is discovered during the standard running time of a league or championship match, substitute animals are to be allowed with the express permission of all contestants and with due consideration for local regulations, how likely you are to be rumbled by the constabulary and time left before last orders

So that's a maybe?

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

XMNN posted:

this plan bears so little relation to reality that it's not even a "perfectly spherical commuters in an evacuated train carriage" grade approximation that I'm sure they haven't even begun to consider it, but I'd like to see one of these fuckers explain what this would actually look like in practice

like you finish work at 5, can't get the 5.15 home because it's prohibitively expensive, so you get the 6.15 instead, what are you doing for that extra hour? just hanging around the station or wandering the streets? how is that helping keep people home

also, you have to pick a price that is prohibitively expensive to enough people without making a bunch of other people who could afford the higher prices decide it's worth hanging around for an hour for the cheaper train, or everyone just gets the later one anyway

also also, it's telling how, even having written off actually doing anything (e.g. making the train companies run more trains, rationing train tickets for people who absolutely have to commute to work) as being too much like communism, their instinct is to raise prices for earlier trains rather than lower them for later ones

beginning to think the IFS might be a bunch of cunts

I have thought this about the peak/off peak pricing distinction since before the pandemic, or at least the rationale that the higher peak price might deter people who can travel at other times. The sardine-like trains do that on their own!

Similarly the posters I've seen in London saying "have you thought about travelling between 10amm and 4pm (or whatever) when it's quieter". Are there really people who can go into town whenever, standing on a train at 0830 muttering "why is it so busy?"

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

It makes a lot more sense if you change the perspective so that peak hours are when the companies can get away with charging more.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Bobstar posted:

I have thought this about the peak/off peak pricing distinction since before the pandemic, or at least the rationale that the higher peak price might deter people who can travel at other times. The sardine-like trains do that on their own!

Similarly the posters I've seen in London saying "have you thought about travelling between 10amm and 4pm (or whatever) when it's quieter". Are there really people who can go into town whenever, standing on a train at 0830 muttering "why is it so busy?"

I'm reminded that when my dad was commuting itno London from Hampshire on the regular, the off-peak trains were referred to as 'the gentlemens' train' with the strong implication that only people who could afford to go into work late could ride them.

If anything off-peak and peak pricing should be loving reversed.

Well, if anything public transport should be nationally owned and free at point of use, but you know.

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

OwlFancier posted:

You see, when michael gove collects books by holocaust deniers, it's not antisemitic, becaus he isn't an antisemite. When left wing people do basically anything, it's antisemitic, because they're antisemites.

* Builds entire house out of copies of Mein Kampf *
It's ok, I used to be a journalist. For The Times.

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Another fun one we haven't talked about on that shelf is The Irony of Virtue, by Ernest Lefever.

quote:

President Ronald Reagan nominated Lefever for a post as Assistant Secretary of State for Human Rights and Humanitarian Affairs in the Department of State. The 1981 nomination was cited by The Washington Post as an effort to appeal to "ultraconservatives" upset that Secretary of State Alexander Haig hadn't appointed conservative "hardliners" to his policy team. Lefever testified to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee that the U.S. should not act to "promote human rights in other sovereign states". Critics drew attention to his involvement with the Ethics and Public Policy Center and criticized remarks that contrasted regimes that supported the United States which he deemed "authoritarian" that should be the targets of "quiet diplomacy" – stating that "[o]ur friends deserve quiet support and public encouragement in their quest for a more humane society" and that we should be "a steadfast ally" without "moral posturing" – while those that opposed the U.S. were deemed "totalitarian" and could not be the targets of change achieved through diplomatic means.

Opposition to the nomination at Senate hearings came from Jacobo Timerman, a journalist from Argentina who had been tortured by that country's military government. Time magazine described Timerman as "a silent but nonetheless potent presence" at the hearings. Two of Lefever's brothers opposed the nomination, with Donald Lefever testifying that his brother was not up to the job, and the allegation made by the brothers that Ernest Lefever had supported William Shockley's views that "blacks were genetically inferior". Lefever withdrew his name in June 1981 in a letter to President Reagan rejecting what he called "suspicion and character assassination", after the Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted 13–4 to reject his nomination, with five Republican Senators joining all eight Democrats in rejecting the nomination. The post was ultimately filled by Elliott Abrams.

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