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Mr. Carlisle posted:At least our brain issues won't cause us to murder speak for yourself
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Daivari was trying to keep up with the squats; that wasn't a bullying story. The was a different story that sometimes got conflated with it, though. The way I heard it at the time was that Benoit was in for the day at Deep South and said he was going to lead a workout to start things off, beginning with a round of Hindu/hack/free squats. (Not the absurd number Benoit had conditioned himself to be able to do that Daivari had trouble keeping up with, either.) Then Matt Striker piped in and this happened: Striker: "Hey Chris...the *vets* don't have to do the squats, right?" Benoit: "*I'm* doing the squats." Cue Striker being kicked out of the locker room and forced to dress in the hallway. When the stories would get conflated, that would somehow result in the story going around being "Striker mouthed off and Benoit made him do squats until he pissed out destroyed muscle fibers." But that didn't happen, at least as far as I know.
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Smoking Crow posted:whoa hitler only had one ball??? Goering had two but very small Himmler had something similar And Goebbels had no balls at all
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As somebody who's had a lot of concussions I can confidently say I've never had the desire to murder a lady and kid, and the handwavey "oh he had a lot of concussions so clearly his mashed potato brains are why he was a murderous lunatic" is just really lovely
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May 4, 2020 07:20
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Eat My Fuc posted:I honestly believe the Eddie, Benoit relationship was romantic and that maybe Nancy found out. Benoit is a piece of poo poo murdering bastard who deserves no accolades for anything he ever did, and if he and Eddie were involved that had nothing to do with the fact that he was a murdering, evil monster. There's just a lot about their relationship and Benoit's reaction to his death that to me bring to mind how people react upon losing their long time spouse. Maybe I am being ignorant about the potential of platonic relationships between cis men, but I have just always felt this way and the dark side of the ring documentary only made it seem more likely to me that this was the case. Have you ever lost someone close to you unexpectedly? A very close friend of mine died in a plane crash when I was in my early 20s and Benoit's reaction to Eddie's death is the most normal thing about him.
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Lamuella posted:Goering had two but very small This was so close to being AC/DC’s “Big Balls” perfectly repurposed to make fun of Nazis
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May 4, 2020 07:28
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Benoit was Gilgamesh, and Eddie was his Enkidu
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May 4, 2020 07:31
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Seth Rollins posted:Benoit was Gilgamesh, and Eddie was his Enkidu Benoit had powerful Angra Mainyu energy imho
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May 4, 2020 07:37
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I believe Benoit's CTE was a contributing factor in what he did. Was it the decisive factor? Probably not. Absolutely doesn't absolve him either.
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I've heard a lot of Benoit conspiracy theories but for some reason "Benoit and Eddie were secretly a couple" is a new one to me
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May 4, 2020 07:52
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Benne posted:I've heard a lot of Benoit conspiracy theories but for some reason "Benoit and Eddie were secretly a couple" is a new one to me Two men can't be very close friends without them being gay and having sex with each other apparently.
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May 4, 2020 07:53
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Benne posted:I've heard a lot of Benoit conspiracy theories but for some reason "Benoit and Eddie were secretly a couple" is a new one to me Eat My Fuc gonna Eat My Fuc
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May 4, 2020 08:11
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Benne posted:I've heard a lot of Benoit conspiracy theories but for some reason "Benoit and Eddie were secretly a couple" is a new one to me It is, ironically enough, the straightest of takes
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May 4, 2020 08:25
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Seams posted:Two men can't be very close friends without them being gay and having sex with each other apparently. EMF is a fujoshi, but for Benoit
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I think that exact take was posted in the twitter thread a while ago and I am disappointed that Eat my Fuc isn't even getting their hot takes from outside the forum.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:I think that exact take was posted in the twitter thread a while ago and I am disappointed that Eat my Fuc isn't even getting their hot takes from outside the forum. I mean at least they posted it in the right thread 
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May 4, 2020 08:35
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Seams posted:I believe Benoit's CTE was a contributing factor in what he did. Was it the decisive factor? Probably not. Absolutely doesn't absolve him either. I feel pretty bad for David Benoit. He looks just like his dad, which is reason enough for most promotions to want to distance themselves from him permanently, and there's really nothing he can do about it.
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May 4, 2020 21:09
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sticklefifer posted:I heard a psychiatrist explain it pretty well at the time. Benoit likely had both an untreated mental illness and was probably a spousal abuser already, but years of brain injuries on top of that took away his natural ability to filter out the differences between right and wrong, or fantasy and reality; things he probably already struggled with. So he probably took something too far, whether he was in his right mind or not, but then whatever internal mechanism would've stopped him from going further otherwise just didn't kick in. I don't think he was of sound mind, but he wasn't taking care of the problems that led up to it either. He did choose Chris Benoit Jr. as his wrestling name, though. I understand he still cares about his pre-murder dad but that's not helping his cause. He's extremely awkward in interviews even when not discussing his dad so he's already got an uphill battle.
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May 4, 2020 22:29
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david's not really into the training part of becoming a wrestler, which you kinda have to do if you want to be a paid wrestler in most cases. given his father's insane work ethic towards wrestling that's not really a bad thing to be honest.
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May 4, 2020 22:32
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Mr. Carlisle posted:He did choose Chris Benoit Jr. as his wrestling name, though. I understand he still cares about his pre-murder dad but that's not helping his cause. He's extremely awkward in interviews even when not discussing his dad so he's already got an uphill battle. Yeah, I guess he is/was struggling with the whole "my dad killed two people, including my half-brother," which would be a pretty heavy thing for anyone to have to deal with, but yeah, when you announce you intend to wrestle as "Chris Benoit Jr," it's almost like you're daring most promotions to hire you. edogawa rando fucked around with this message at 23:39 on May 4, 2020 |
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I'm amazed that the surviving Von Erichs didn't all become CPAs or something. Wrestling families are weird.
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I feel like he will be one of the prime examples of just because your dad was good at something doesn't mean you will be In interviews he seems just awkward and confused about where he wants to go in life so he was like "well, my dad was one of the best at wrestling so I guess I'll do that". He said he's doing oil field work and making good money doing that and I understand wanting to get out of a job like that but wrestling isn't exactly safer - especially if you're awkward in the ring. Being someone's son can take you anywhere or nowhere. Take Cody Hall for example. Inherited amazing genetics and connections from his father but cant physically stop himself from loving up and being a dipshit at every turn burning every bridge. Orange Carlisle fucked around with this message at 23:23 on May 4, 2020 |
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David Benoit has attempted training half a dozen times, shows up for a couple months at best, then gets upset nobody wants to book him and quits for a year or two. He's still basically an untrained rookie despite his age and how long it's been since he first started "training" Outside of the reason nobody wants to book "Chris Benoit Jr" who also uses his dad's trunks and theme, he hasn't actually completed training at all.
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May 4, 2020 23:26
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Yeah you could tell even in the Chris Van Vliet interview that he was half assing the entire thing about having a passion for it and he himself didn't even believe he wanted to be a wrestler which is tough because CVV interviews usually make anyone look good they're basically softballs for a half hour
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May 4, 2020 23:29
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Benne posted:I've heard a lot of Benoit conspiracy theories but for some reason "Benoit and Eddie were secretly a couple" is a new one to me I don't agree, but I see where they're coming from, I guess
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davidbix posted:The way that I've seen it argued has been a bunch of people who watched the Dark Side episodes with their wives/girlfriends, who were all like "Whoa, were they a couple?" Specifically over things like Chris crawling into Eddy and Vickie's marital bed to hug Eddy's pillow while sobbing. That he came off more like a widow. This is exactly what happened with me and my partner, he suggested it and it made sense to me.
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The SO's of a couple of RBR Podcast hosts came to the same conclusion, my girlfriend came to that conclusion, and my friend's girlfriend came to that conclusion so the general consensus I've seen is anyone who doesn't watch a lot of wrestling jump to that conclusion. I'm not going to comment one way or the other on the relationship between two dead men but Benoit definitely had a lot of issues outside of concussions, he was probably loving weird way before any brain injuries started popping up
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David Benoit should just insist he’s Viscera’s kid and get like really angry about it if people ask.
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coconono posted:David Benoit should just insist he’s Viscera’s kid and get like really angry about it if people ask. Promoter: You're Viscera's kid? David: Yes. Promoter: And you go by the name... David: Chris Benoit Jr. What's the issue here?
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It’s too bad Dark Side didn’t cover that Eddie wasn’t the only very close friend of Benoit that died in a relatively short amount of time. They mentioned that Johnny Grunge was trying to keep Benoit calm when he was losing it, but I don’t think they mentioned that he died less than a year after Eddie. And there was another former wrestler who was working as NJPW office at the time whose name escapes me. I get that they were trying to portray a narrative, but his intense grief for Eddie was no doubt compounded by the loss of other people he cared about. I think it would have changed the tone and less people would have come away with the Benoit/Eddie were secret lovers theory.
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Big Bidness posted:It’s too bad Dark Side didn’t cover that Eddie wasn’t the only very close friend of Benoit that died in a relatively short amount of time. They mentioned that Johnny Grunge was trying to keep Benoit calm when he was losing it, but I don’t think they mentioned that he died less than a year after Eddie. And there was another former wrestler who was working as NJPW office at the time whose name escapes me. Was it biff wellington didn't he die around this time?
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Jerusalem posted:Promoter: You're Viscera's kid? See? Problem solved.
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Big Bidness posted:It’s too bad Dark Side didn’t cover that Eddie wasn’t the only very close friend of Benoit that died in a relatively short amount of time. They mentioned that Johnny Grunge was trying to keep Benoit calm when he was losing it, but I don’t think they mentioned that he died less than a year after Eddie. And there was another former wrestler who was working as NJPW office at the time whose name escapes me. * Eddy Guerrero, his BFF, dies on November 13, 2005. * Victor "Black Cat" Mar, his best friend on NJPW tours since he started in the dojo in 1986, died on January 28, 2006. * Mike "Johnny Grunge" Durham, his best neighborhood friend, who served as his pressure valve during arguments with Nancy, dies on February 16, 2006. That's just an absurd level of grief to go through even before you factor in that, even by wrestling standards, he was surrounded by an unusual amount of premature death, from Brian Pillman and Owen Hart to Larry Cameron and Lance Idol, among others I'm sure I'm forgetting. The Croc posted:Was it biff wellington didn't he die around this time?
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coconono posted:David Benoit should just insist he’s Viscera’s kid and get like really angry about it if people ask. I do that at buffets all along the Eastern seaboard
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Vince Russo's latest show is entitled "Proof That The Beatles Didn't Write/Play Their Own Songs" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3AV-kPhZ2I Good to see he's branching out.
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MassRafTer posted:Vince Russo's latest show is entitled "Proof That The Beatles Didn't Write/Play Their Own Songs" And once again Russo misses the point that the Beatles only did it when it mattered. Of course everyone and their fuckin brother wanted to play with the beatles. I can't remember how many times I heard that bullshit hippie story told over a campfire in exchange for a beer.
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I like Ringo. That's my beatle thought
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May 5, 2020 04:32
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You know the Beach Boys didn't play on Pet Sounds Plz subscribe to my YouTube channel
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