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Tiggum posted:Hooters is such an incredibly strange concept to me. It's like, do you want to suffer all the same social stigma as if you worked at or visited a strip club, but without any of the advantages (better pay; nudity)? Plus (as a customer) you also get everyone wondering why you didn't just go to a strip club? How is this a successful business when actual strip clubs and regular restaurants both exist? Who wants this weird compromise between the two? This is my take. I went for lunch with some people I work with and several of them paid with cash so that their wives wouldn't see HOOTERS on their bank statement.
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spacetoaster posted:This is my take. I get the feeling your gossipy suburban white people neighbors are less likely to tell your wife if they see you coming out of a hooters (oh you, wink wink, boys will be boys  ) than out of a strip club.Also fun fact: I live near the first-ever hooters. It's in Clearwater, which explains a hell of a lot. Shame Boy has issued a correction as of 15:59 on May 5, 2020 |
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May 5, 2020 15:53
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Shame Boy posted::iamafag: Did this get a new name or was it just deleted completely?
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Also to hopefully branch away from personal childhood trauma: Hm, in America you have to file a lawsuit against a place of business because you happened to catch a disease there and were bankrupted by it and it's basically your only recourse. Clearly the problem here is the ability to file a lawsuit.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Did this get a new name or was it just deleted completely? There's and  I'm glad for the namechange tbh.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Did this get a new name or was it just deleted completely? Oh man I haven't actually used it since the admins cleaned up some of the more offensive smilie names, good for you SA forums. still works at least.
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Shame Boy posted:It was actually run by and marketed to gay men, but everyone declared it "hooters for women!!!" because whenever there's hot gay men society declares it to be a place for women. See also: every bachelorette party that has ever gone to a gay bar. I don't even have the words to describe how much I hate the bachelorette parties who go to gay bars like they're visiting a loving zoo. Acting like trash because they don't view the staff and other customers as real people, often sexually assaulting people because, "hey, it's not like you care if I grab your crotch because of how much of a gay you are".
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Peanut President posted:what if you have both a son and daughter, are there hooters but its dudes in speedos? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYBA1GQf5WQ
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Peanut President posted:what if you have both a son and daughter, are there hooters but its dudes in speedos? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbiOblHy4mc&t=170s
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Shame Boy posted:Hm, in America you have to file a lawsuit against a place of business because you happened to catch a disease there and were bankrupted by it and it's basically your only recourse. Clearly the problem here is the ability to file a lawsuit. I'm completely distracted by this Utah antique store that's using the American Horror Story font I internalized too much capitalism help
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Shame Boy posted:It was actually run by and marketed to gay men, but everyone declared it "hooters for women!!!" because whenever there's hot gay men society declares it to be a place for women. See also: every bachelorette party that has ever gone to a gay bar. What's so bad about Straight women going to Gay bars? From my experience, women go to gay bars to just have a good time and not spend their night getting hit on by guys they are not into. Then again, some of these same women tend to treat gay men as fashion accessories. Shame Boy posted:I get the feeling your gossipy suburban white people neighbors are less likely to tell your wife if they see you coming out of a hooters (oh you, wink wink, boys will be boys Sounds like the kind of women who would consider watching porn the same as an affair.
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I hit my head on the door at Hooters on my first birthday. my parents were fans of the cheap beer and chicken wings. they’d give me a quarter to play with the cigarette machine coin return when I was a couple years older. one time we saw John Daly hawking $20 autographs in the parking lot. good memories, great place to take a toddler.
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May 5, 2020 17:25
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First tine I went to Hooters was overseas in Shanghai. I was dating a Russian lady at the time, going in was her idea. It was late, were kind of hungry and not in the mood for Chinese cuisine. Imagine a hooters staffed with just Chinese girls, taped soccer and NFL games on the TVs and without the leering fat white guys proving their diminishing masculinity to themselves. Say what you will about hooters, their wings are decent. Well, that's my Hooters story.
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Forceholy posted:What's so bad about Straight women going to Gay bars? From my experience, women go to gay bars to just have a good time and not spend their night getting hit on by guys they are not into. Then again, some of these same women tend to treat gay men as fashion accessories. I don't think the issue here is "straight women going to gay bars", it's "straight women organizing rowdy bachelorette parties at gay bars so that they can behave like subhuman freaks because everyone there is gay so they won't mind being touched and handled like cattle".
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necroid posted:I don't think the issue here is "straight women going to gay bars", it's "straight women organizing rowdy bachelorette parties at gay bars so that they can behave like subhuman freaks because everyone there is gay so they won't mind being touched and handled like cattle". So a case of "It's not harassment when I do it, but it is when it happens to ME."
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Forceholy posted:What's so bad about Straight women going to Gay bars? From my experience, women go to gay bars to just have a good time and not spend their night getting hit on by guys they are not into. Then again, some of these same women tend to treat gay men as fashion accessories. Specifically for bachelorette parties, it was/is pretty tone deaf to go celebrate your wedding at a gay bar where people (until recently) couldn't do the same. Also a question of spaces, etc. Unity and inclusiveness is cool, but more oppressed subcultures often want to have some exclusive spaces (see: women's groups, etc).
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necroid posted:I don't think the issue here is "straight women going to gay bars", it's "straight women organizing rowdy bachelorette parties at gay bars so that they can behave like subhuman freaks because everyone there is gay so they won't mind being touched and handled like cattle". It's this OP. I've not heard much flack about straight women going to gay bars and acting like normal people. poo poo, as a straight guy, the LGBT nightclub where I used to live was a more welcoming and chill scene to go for drinks and dancing than any other club I've gone to. 10/10 would make a regular haunt. It's when they do the bachelorette party thing and dehumanize the people who these establishments are actually for that issues come up.
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When I was a kid my childhood friend’s family once went to Hooters for Mother’s Day. This wasn’t sone southern thing, but in Minnesota. The parents are still married today.
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Also to hopefully branch away from personal childhood trauma: so someone could probably take this to the supreme court right?
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May 5, 2020 21:48
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Yeah and it'd be a 5-4 in favor of killing the working class for the Never Ending Pasta Bowl
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Tiggum posted:Hooters is such an incredibly strange concept to me. It's like, do you want to suffer all the same social stigma as if you worked at or visited a strip club, but without any of the advantages (better pay; nudity)? Plus (as a customer) you also get everyone wondering why you didn't just go to a strip club? How is this a successful business when actual strip clubs and regular restaurants both exist? Who wants this weird compromise between the two? In terms of working there I've heard tips are much better than your average restaurant and the harrassment isn't too much worse or at least it's more sort of codified. In terms of eating/drinking there, it seems to walk the line between being tame enough that people can go for work dinners or with their family and only expect a "lol boys will be boys" kind of reaction, while being horny enough that it's still a selling point.
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Hooters was one of those things I thought my dad was bullshitting me about when I was 12. I was pretty surprised that it does in fact exist. There was one in part of a mall in the bay area and my wife suggested we eat there for the novelty of it. Both of us were pretty surprised to see quite a lot of families there.
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I went to a twin peaks once because I didn't realize what it was and it was the most awkward dining experience I've ever had like idk why we didn't just leave upon realizing what it was after walking through he door; social navigation is painful
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Yes but at the strip club I can at least suck down overpriced, overboozed drinks while watching naked people perform feats of gymnastic prowess.
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Panfilo posted:Hooters was one of those things I thought my dad was bullshitting me about when I was 12. I was pretty surprised that it does in fact exist. i got dragged there a few timesby a buncha olds i used to work with when you order a pitcher of beer there the waitresses are supposed to pour it for you every time even though it's just sitting on your table
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I know this is hard to understand but we don't loving want straight people at the gay bar because ya'll as a group: -Have literally every non gay bar -misgender us, use slurs, don't understand basic shared concepts -do "funny" sexual assault (see above) -Still do gay and trans panic poo poo on the regular if we try to flirt or just exist near you -constantly make things about you -don't respect the safety of the space (outing people you see here, ask lovely questions and get offended if people tell you not to, talk about triggering things) -try to flirt with people not into your gender ("oh your a lesbain, tri this dick!!" is poo poo people say) And look, the community has members that act like that too, lovely people and such. And maybe you think you're "one of the good ones" and you never do anything like this. But the spaces aren't for you and frankly they have a long history of reasons to not want you there. We didn't see straight people in there when being found in a gay bar got you arrested. Drag wasn't a loving TV show when crossdressing or dressing in gender affirming clothes would ruin your life if it got out. If you're invited, if it's some kind of reach out event, sure. That's us reaching out to you, and making a space where everyone knows the space isn't queer exclusively. If you're questioning your own gender/sexuality I'd suggest looking for something more befitting (local groups, online questioning forums, even SA if you're comfortable doing so) but if the bar's the only place it's there for you too. But if you just want to get drunk and yell slurs at every non passing person, or if you've created some kind of savior complex 
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Arcteryx Anarchist posted:I went to a twin peaks once because I didn't realize what it was and it was the most awkward dining experience I've ever had we used to go to twin peaks to power drink at lunch and my boss would always order fajitas that came out on cast iron grills spitting hot grease at the waitresses.
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Giga Gaia posted:we used to go to twin peaks to power drink at lunch and my boss would always order fajitas that came out on cast iron grills spitting hot grease at the waitresses. your boss has problems and you should probably have someone check the crawl spaces around his residence
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Warmachine posted:Yes but at the strip club I can at least suck down overpriced, overboozed drinks while watching naked people perform feats of gymnastic prowess. fun fact, a strip joint in my hometown hired a locally renowned chef to come work in the kitchen there and it quickly became known for some of the best breakfast you could get in the downtown core
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if you struggle to think of who would actually go to a hooters, just remember that they now have a chaste millenial rebranded version of their restaurant called Hoots to appeal to an even thinner demo https://jezebel.com/journey-inside-hoots-the-breast-less-unsexy-hooters-f-1836670039 quote:There are a number of differences between the two chains. Unlike the cave-reminiscent Hooters, Hoots is bright with windowed walls, though the color scheme is nearly identical to its namesake restaurant. Unlike Hooters, the Hoots logo is all lowercase, though the the double-o’s still look like boobs. Unlike Hooters, Hoots is counter-service only. Unlike Hooters, men work in the restaurant. And, most notably, unlike Hooters, no breasts are involved in the Hoots experience, as both men and women employees wear modest, conservative uniforms.
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Lansdowne posted:if you struggle to think of who would actually go to a hooters, just remember that they now have a chaste millenial rebranded version of their restaurant called Hoots to appeal to an even thinner demo Why is the only one in Chicago, it sounds like something that'd be in Salt Lake City.
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hobbesmaster posted:Why is the only one in Chicago, it sounds like something that'd be in Salt Lake City. lol they opened one in florida yesterday. now that's timing!
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T-man posted:I know this is hard to understand but we don't loving want straight people at the gay bar because ya'll as a group: Yeah, like I've lived places where they were cleaner and better ran than every other available straight club so I'm generally pretty okay about straight people going to a gay bar in some cases but remember you're a guest there and it's not a field trip to the fuckin' zoo.
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Arcteryx Anarchist posted:your boss has problems and you should probably have someone check the crawl spaces around his residence hes an alex jones level conspiracy theorist joe rogan bro who thinks ghosts are real and once posted a vid of him jacked out on, i assume, lovely chinese imported opiates and jack daniels talking to his basement ghost because a draft was moving his door. he owned in the worst possible way, just a train that was always about to crash but never truly derailed because he was white and cute.
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Giga Gaia posted:hes an alex jones level conspiracy theorist joe rogan bro who thinks ghosts are real and once posted a vid of him jacked out on, i assume, lovely chinese imported opiates and jack daniels talking to his basement ghost because a draft was moving his door. he owned in the worst possible way, just a train that was always about to crash but never truly derailed because he was white and cute.
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