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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/1257408732784472067

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GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Ted Cruz linking to WSWS.....what a world

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
The virgin Bhaskar Sunkara vs the chad David North

Pizza Segregationist
Jul 18, 2006

https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1257491295947415553

:toot: get rekt

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/TrueAnonPod/status/1257514806917001216

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
it's like the fyre festival of invasions

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/maduro_en/status/1257528679187599361

very smart to bring your VA card along with you while throwing an illegal coup

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

it's like the fyre festival of invasions

Does that mean Trump, like Ja Rule, is the people's hero for sending agents of imperialism to their doom?

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

https://twitter.com/maduro_en/status/1257528679187599361

very smart to bring your VA card along with you while throwing an illegal coup

https://www.facebook.com/airan.berry

lol

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/SilvercorpUsa/status/1083430047069937666

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
:cripes:

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011


he's a fan of Bernie Sanders, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee

also has videos about how fluoride, the military industrial complex, and Monsanto are bad.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014




well,

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

ah gently caress there's going to be another Epstein connection isn't there

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

didn't the French revolution, cluminating, especially the Haitian revolution, was the first abolition of slavery?

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Top City Homo posted:

didn't the French revolution, cluminating, especially the Haitian revolution, was the first abolition of slavery?

It was the first, but they reinstituted it in 1802 and kept it until 1848

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Atrocious Joe posted:

he's a fan of Bernie Sanders, Rand Paul, and Mike Lee

also has videos about how fluoride, the military industrial complex, and Monsanto are bad.

man Americans really are just completely politically incoherent, aren't they

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Mr. Lobe posted:

man Americans really are just completely politically incoherent, aren't they

eternal innocence myth

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

MizPiz posted:

It was the first, but they reinstituted it in 1802 and kept it until 1848

losurdo wrote that liberalism unlike radicalism, loves slavery and nowhere was slavery more loved than the USA.

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?

Top City Homo posted:

losurdo wrote that liberalism unlike radicalism, loves slavery and nowhere was slavery more loved than the USA.

Liberalism: A Counter-History is such a good book.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014




lol

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

GunnerJ posted:

Liberalism: A Counter-History is such a good book.

it's really good.

I like that it shows how liberalism is dead weight for political reform. How the "community of the free" it establishes is exclusive and requires exceptions against those who are unfree. How early liberals thought of workers as subhuman and that the agitation for change came from utopian socialists or left radicals who believed in the slogans of the revolution while the nobles were just happy with their expanded right to property (slaves).

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

for most of them the question is: where is your chin??!

coathat
May 21, 2007


Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Burger Theory

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Beta force

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

ah so thats where the proud boys ended up

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/Moondog89775605/status/1257557952782831618

lol

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
so maduro can arrest him for treason at this point right? or is he just untouchable because he's america's boy

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

It seems at this point a free Juan Guaidó has more downsides for to the opposition than for the government. If he is put away the US might find a more competent puppet.

Part of the reason the US indicted Maduro on drug trafficking charges was to try to stop parts of the opposition from negotiating with the government. This recent incident is just going to further divide the moderate opposition from anti-government forces.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Atrocious Joe posted:

It seems at this point a free Juan Guaidó has more downsides for to the opposition than for the government. If he is put away the US might find a more competent puppet.

Part of the reason the US indicted Maduro on drug trafficking charges was to try to stop parts of the opposition from negotiating with the government. This recent incident is just going to further divide the moderate opposition from anti-government forces.

ah the old "why bother killing hitler if he sucks at managing the german war effort so much"

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

they paid 213 million real actual US dollars for these guys lmfao

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Lightning Knight posted:

they paid 213 million real actual US dollars for these guys lmfao

they didn't pay them at all lmao

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Lightning Knight posted:

they paid 213 million real actual US dollars for these guys lmfao

Trump's notorious for stiffing his contractors

he didn't even pay those freaky child cheerleaders who promoted him for the 2016 election

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
https://twitter.com/timtakestime/status/1257763443828023297

emTme3
Nov 7, 2012

by Hand Knit

Ferrinus posted:

i don't see the point in acknowledging that the ussr wasn't capitalist, but then vehemently adding that it definitely wasn't socialism, surely not, it must have represented some heretofore undefined third thing that we'll be unraveling for years. it's much more straightforward to conclude that it was socialist and socialist economies have their own logistical and societal problems, especially socialist economies under eternal siege by vastly stronger capitalist powers

Ticktin calls it a 'non mode of production', which is an analysis I've come around to. Basically the party apparatus managed to block (or at least effectively mediate) the value form from determining production, but there was no new social form to replace it with other than direct allocation backed by direct force. Clock without a spring is the metaphor.

After the purging of the factions, the castrating of the soviets, the uncritical importation of Taylorism, the reinstallation of the domestic family, and the disappearance of effective internal self-criticism it's hard to see any other way the USSR could have gone. Whether consciously or not the society that arose after the revolution in the countryside had decisively closed off the conditions necessary for something like a new social form to arise. They were stuck, and it only got more obvious as the century wore on. It is argued all the time that these measures were necessary to combat the siege conditions they were in, but if lockstep party discipline, the disappearance of effective internal debate and criticism, and Taylorist workplace hierarchies are necessary to hold off capital then SIOC is truly a dead end. There were never be a SIOC that isn't under siege from its outset.

emTme3 fucked around with this message at 00:16 on May 6, 2020

GunnerJ
Aug 1, 2005

Do you think this is funny?
https://twitter.com/AliceAvizandum/status/1257786917552377856

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018

Lady Militant posted:

theoretically theirs no reason why you couldn't have a centralized state that coordinates between various independent anarchist factories/communities while maintaining it's own stuff as well. ultimately people kinda just want to do their own thing and stopping that costs a lot more than working with them on it (within reason of course). the central state could do things that individual anarchist/worker owned firms couldn't do themselves like pave roads.

idk what this would be called, socialism with federal characteristics?

It would be called the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Prince Myshkin posted:

It would be called the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

:vince:

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Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008






feelin that cussedness

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