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Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

DesertIslandHermit posted:

These communities are in fact nasty with each other. They like to mock leftist infighting but these guys don’t call you out because they want to improve their community in anyway but to do a public stoning and let the buzzards pick you apart. Becomes discouraging to even work with them in the first place.

I’m probably missing something obvious, but nobody who isn’t a nazi would want to work with them in the first place?

DesertIslandHermit
Oct 7, 2019

It's beautiful. And it's for the god of...of...arts and crafts. I think that's what he said.

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I’m probably missing something obvious, but nobody who isn’t a nazi would want to work with them in the first place?

Lots of dumbass grifters will try to buddy up to them while they make videos to specifically complain about dumb poo poo (Tim Pool, Jeremy Hambly, etc.). Outrage clickbait can be specifically targeting but you can just make yourself too many layers disconnected to not seem like a card-carrying alt-rightist.

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

it was probably later seized by ISIS and then blow up by a 500-pound bomb OP

Heh, if I had roughly $2-4 million in squandered tax revenue for every time I’d heard that one ~

Top City Homo posted:

how do they deal with molotovs?

It would be mildly ironic if part of our job while in-country was to think of ways we would attack our own equipment and disrupt our own procedures, and if some ex-soldiers had pretty good long-term recall for those kinds of details. Fortunately neither of those things has ever happened!

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

LonsomeSon posted:

Heh, if I had roughly $2-4 million in squandered tax revenue for every time I’d heard that one ~


It would be mildly ironic if part of our job while in-country was to think of ways we would attack our own equipment and disrupt our own procedures, and if some ex-soldiers had pretty good long-term recall for those kinds of details. Fortunately neither of those things has ever happened!

good to know ;)

Beowulfs_Ghost
Nov 6, 2009

Zeroisanumber posted:

The funny thing is that for all of their Roman salutes and talk about the Boogaloo or whatever, they don't really belive in anything. If you try to find something like a fascist intellectual corpus or unified theory you're going to come up blank. Most of it just comes down to nostalgic romanticism about whatever they idealize about "white culture" and endless plans to murder their enemies. They're stupid, and almost all of them are completely mediocre cowards at heart.

The current consumer capitalism that is the air they breathe makes these grand system building narratives largely impossible.

It is also why they fear antifa so much. Antifa does have a singular goal, and to them that is terrifying. Antifa is effectively a monolithic beast where ever it turns up.

By contrast, the alt-right is dozens of competing brands each competing for market share. The shity small business tyrant mindset hobbles them more than anything else.

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



LonsomeSon posted:

Heh, if I had roughly $2-4 million in squandered tax revenue for every time I’d heard that one ~


It would be mildly ironic if part of our job while in-country was to think of ways we would attack our own equipment and disrupt our own procedures, and if some ex-soldiers had pretty good long-term recall for those kinds of details. Fortunately neither of those things has ever happened!

*Airlifts in a literal pallet of cash to you* :911:

Untrustable
Mar 17, 2009





The county I live in (less than 10,000 people) bought an MRAP for $1,500 and they use it in petty drug raids. It's fuckin stupid to see that thing ramped up in someone's yard busting the dude selling dimebags out of his kitchen.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
1500 seems like a good deal for an MRAP

Kung Food
Dec 11, 2006

PORN WIZARD

Untrustable posted:

The county I live in (less than 10,000 people) bought an MRAP for $1,500 and they use it in petty drug raids. It's fuckin stupid to see that thing ramped up in someone's yard busting the dude selling dimebags out of his kitchen.

For $1500? Where did they buy this from because at that price I might use it for my daily driver.

LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

Alan Smithee posted:

1500 seems like a good deal for an MRAP

I’m not going to lie this was also my immediate reaction; ‘poo poo buying a working MRAP for $1500 might be the most relatable thing cops have ever done.’

Epic High Five posted:

*Airlifts in a literal pallet of cash to you* :911:

Send more plox, ISIS took that one and I had to blow it up with a JDAM.

cumshitter
Sep 27, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Untrustable posted:

The county I live in (less than 10,000 people) bought an MRAP for $1,500 and they use it in petty drug raids. It's fuckin stupid to see that thing ramped up in someone's yard busting the dude selling dimebags out of his kitchen.

theyre doing it so that every minor bust gets on the local news. same reason arpaio drove a wheeled tank with steven seagall into some dude's house becuase they thought he was raising chickens for cock figthing

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


DesertIslandHermit posted:

These communities are in fact nasty with each other. They like to mock leftist infighting but these guys don’t call you out because they want to improve their community in anyway but to do a public stoning and let the buzzards pick you apart. Becomes discouraging to even work with them in the first place.

the alt right is
-1% hardcore insane true believers (most of these are in atomwaffen or similar)
-45% angry disgruntled petit bourgeois whites who wish they lived in the Jim Crow south
-45% nihilistic young people with no futures who only feel that they exist if people are mad at or scared of them
-9% grifters trying to make a buck who don’t believe in anything (most of the visible alt right personalities, ie carl of swindon and the like).

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

LonsomeSon posted:

International-branded Mine Resistant Ambush Protected vehicle, I was deployed to Iraq at the time they were issuing these to light infantry units as a way to make up for how we didn’t have Bradleys or Strykers, and at the time nobody had yet died from enemy attacks in a Stryker.

Turned out they were basically useless except on paved or at least packed roads, so for almost everything we did that a Bradley or Stryker would have been not great at but not incapable of doing. At the time Congress was insisting on buying more Bradleys as well as the Strykers which they were supposed to be phased out in favor of, so it’s unclear why they didn’t just push some of those down to us until you see how common MRAPs are in domestic police forces now.

Hull armor rated to be resistant to explosively formed penetrators, as well as to deflect non-shaped blasts against the undercarriage, the forward windows are alleged to be able to stop one, maybe two hits from .50 BMG or comparable AMR rounds. Also they have incredibly overbuilt troop compartment air conditioning, and could easily maintain 75F during the day unless the gunner’s swing was empty or they were moving.

I'd suspect it's because bribing politicians is legal in this stupid country?


Kung Food posted:

For $1500? Where did they buy this from because at that price I might use it for my daily driver.

Can't imagine they'd get good mileage, being massively overbuilt if you're not planning on taking it anywhere you'll need all that armor/etc.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Top City Homo posted:

what about a potato in the exhaust port?

clog the shitbox

cumshitter knows about that

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010


Abortion clinics are a business.

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

Norton the First posted:

Look at that loving whatever it is.

its an MRAP, lol. a bunch of police departments got them when they weren't needed in iraq anymore

Syd Midnight
Sep 23, 2005

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

One of those nazis who was big around the time of Charlottesville wrote out a whole long post about how to use irony and joking to deflect criticism and get people into the pipeline with fun memes. It's basically the nazis' whole long game in getting involved in 4chan as a recruiting ground in the first place.

that was covered in the style guide for the Daily Stormer <- pdf. Here's a Guardian article on it in case you don't want it on your computer.

quote:

The unindoctrinated should not be able to tell if we are joking or not. There should also be a
conscious awareness of mocking stereotypes of hateful racists. I usually think of this as self-
deprecating humor - I am a racist making fun of stereotype of racists, because I don't take
myself super-seriously.

This is obviously a ploy and I actually do want to gas kikes. But that's neither here nor there.

quote:

While racial slurs are allowed/recommended, not every reference to non-white should not be
a slur and their use should be based on the tone of the article. Generally, when using racial
slurs, it should come across as half-joking - like a racist joke that everyone laughs at because
it's true. This follows the generally light tone of the site.
It should not come across as genuine raging vitriol. That is a turnoff to the overwhelming
majority of people.

quote:

The goal is to continually repeat the same points, over and over and over and over again. The
reader is at first drawn in by curiosity or the naughty humor, and is slowly awakened to reality
by repeatedly reading the same points. We are able to keep these points fresh by applying
them to current events.
The basic propaganda doctrine of the site is based on Hitler's doctrine of war propaganda
outlined in Mein Kampf, Volume I, Chapter VI. If you have not read this, please do so
immediately.
et cetera

you dont need Bletchley Park to crack these guys codes

Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

Spergin Morlock posted:

its an MRAP, lol. a bunch of police departments got them when they weren't needed in iraq anymore

Obama gave them away like candy lol

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


A big thing in fascism is culling weakness (as the fascists perceive it) from the volk. So taking down their own fits perfectly in line with their ideology if they see someone else as weak.

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

brugroffil posted:

A big thing in fascism is culling weakness (as the fascists perceive it) from the volk. So taking down their own fits perfectly in line with their ideology if they see someone else as weak.
Mix that with just world/prosperity gospel thinking (where everything bad that happens is the fault of the person it happens to) and it becomes a perfectly self-justifying loop.

e: Trust in God and He will protect you from the 'rona! Oh you died of the 'rona? Well, that just shows you didn't trust God enough (or live a Godly enough life). The fault is all your own.

FMguru has issued a correction as of 18:32 on May 6, 2020

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

They also all think they're going to be the next fuehrer once they knife the competition and probably expect to be betrayed by all their buddies they minute they turn their backs. The whole movement is built on resentment and channeling rage at imagined enemies. I don't imagine there's a lot of genuine relationships or emotional support in an environment like that. Plus they're all a bunch of fat or scrawny loser nerds who hate those parts of themselves and try to displace self-loathing with aggression, and that probably doesn't work when you surround yourself with people who reflect the same things back at you that you hate about yourself.

Slim Jim Pickens
Jan 16, 2012

Syd Midnight posted:

that was covered in the style guide for the Daily Stormer <- pdf. Here's a Guardian article on it in case you don't want it on your computer.



et cetera

you dont need Bletchley Park to crack these guys codes

The daily stormer doesnt exactly follow this style guide anyways, the image of having a comprehensive plan of indoctrination is more successful propaganda than anything they've actually written. The reality of these guys is they have almost no self-control and will just say racist things without any humour or ambiguity because they think being racist is the funny part. When they aren't doing that, they just repeat phrases like 'snowflake" or "six gorillion" over and over again.

The neo-nazi pipeline has always been self-selecting, apart from the guys who are literally mentally handicapped. Almost everything they believe is just a post-facto justification for feelings or desires that they always had. They're just cruel people who like feel domineering, they accomplish this by denigrating minorities, but they're perfectly happy to do it with anybody in their circle.

Slim Jim Pickens has issued a correction as of 18:22 on May 6, 2020

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


Kung Food posted:

For $1500? Where did they buy this from because at that price I might use it for my daily driver.

theres a federal form you have to fill out, you are supposed to be police but they dont verify it so if you are willing to commit the slight felony of lying to the feds you can get one
if you are friends with a crooked sheriff they can get it for you instead, thats also not allowed but they all do it, because they are crooked and can use a couple thousand in their bank account more than a useless mrap

duz has issued a correction as of 18:16 on May 6, 2020

a.lo
Sep 12, 2009

https://twitter.com/CoolElefant/status/1258088581567934469?s=20

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

It's the second or third-oldest nazi trick in the book to deflect from their deadly serious claims by saying "it's just a joke, bro!" or "that's satire." It's that famous Sartre quote, pretty much. The whole point of the Klu Klux Klan was to create something so absurd that it seemed like it couldn't possibly be serious while doing the deadly serious work of genocide, including bad disguises that did nothing to actually disguise who the people were. It's a tradition proudly carried on by the performed patheticness of the proud boys and the jokey boogaloo/big igloo/big luau stuff.

One of those nazis who was big around the time of Charlottesville wrote out a whole long post about how to use irony and joking to deflect criticism and get people into the pipeline with fun memes. It's basically the nazis' whole long game in getting involved in 4chan as a recruiting ground in the first place.

It feels like recruiting solely from 4chan and other nerd spaces was a terrible error for them because now they can only recruit dorks that hate having responsibility for their actions. Now their communities are full of people who immediately back out of poo poo if things get too hard or frightening.

DemoneeHo
Nov 9, 2017

Come on hee-ho, just give us 300 more macca


All this talk of recruiting nerds from 4chan reminds me of when that one guy got heckled out of a confederate rally because he would not shut up about his epic pepe meme posters.


Its been years, but is he still doing jail time for firing a gun near protestors?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

DemoneeHo posted:

All this talk of recruiting nerds from 4chan reminds me of when that one guy got heckled out of a confederate rally because he would not shut up about his epic pepe meme posters.


Its been years, but is he still doing jail time for firing a gun near protestors?

He got chocked out of consciousness as well as laughed out of the rally. And yes he is in jail for shooting at a person while being on probation for beating his girlfriend. He's also the guy who complained to a reporter about how conservatives aren't taken seriously while wearing an SS insignia pin.

sleeptalker
Feb 17, 2011

SunAndSpring posted:

It feels like recruiting solely from 4chan and other nerd spaces was a terrible error for them because now they can only recruit dorks that hate having responsibility for their actions. Now their communities are full of people who immediately back out of poo poo if things get too hard or frightening.

Definitely, if they wanted to channel the pent-up hateful nerd energy towards any activity that isn't anonymous and opportunistic, they'd have to overcome the personality traits that were already keeping it all pent-up. Otherwise, channer types will just play-act like they're Hard Men until it becomes obvious that they aren't, at which point it was all just a joke.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
I've always figured that like other terrorist groups, the Alt-Right recruits from young men who have nothing, absolutely nothing, going on in their lives. These guys have filled that emptiness in their lives with media like video games and movies, and that was an easy way to get them in. Hey you know that thing you base your entire life around? There are things not made for you, and that means you're under attack! The fact not every video game is a hyper violent space marine shoot 'em up means you're culture is under attack.

And from there they go "don't have a good job? Immigrants" "Don't have good education? Non Whites are getting all the breaks!" "Can't get a girlfriend? Women are too brainwashed by feminism to date a guy who knows every single Pokemon by heart!", its all "you don't have to change, its the world thats wrong!". Then from there you start getting into more hardcore white supremacy. The attraction of all this is that is absolves the adherant from any responsibility of their own life. Everything is everyone elses fault, and that is the most attractive thing, and it goes hand in hand if you can get rid of anyone who isn't like you, everything will be perfect.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

You detach Thanksgiving from the bullshit Pilgrim story and it's easily and by far my favorite holiday.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
https://twitter.com/MsJayePersists/status/1258150491009290246?s=20

https://twitter.com/G0h0s7t/status/1257749790072266752?s=20

https://twitter.com/dailydot/status/1258079830651727872?s=20



https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1257491295947415553?s=20

https://twitter.com/benjaminjlyman/status/1258026445466669057?s=20

quote:

To infiltrate Venezuela, Silvercorp amassed a force of 62 people, loaded into fishing boats and attacked a heavily fortified coastline with gear that included walkie-talkies, night-vision goggles, and at least one Airsoft gun. They were easily detained by local fishermen.




seriously check out their insta, so much gold
https://www.instagram.com/silvercorpusa/

A Gnarlacious Bro
Apr 25, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lol

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

how do you bring an airport gun when its trivial to get a real gun

I

what

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
that's up there with the funniest poo poo i've ever seen

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant


lol thanksgiving a holiday where you're required to eat too much food, the most american holiday aside from the 4th of july isn't going anywhere even if all the minorities get together and do a white genocide tomorrow

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Zeroisanumber posted:

You detach Thanksgiving from the bullshit Pilgrim story and it's easily and by far my favorite holiday.

Yea, I haven't seen anyone seriously suggest getting rid of thanksgiving, mostly they just want to get rid of the myths of the benevolent Settlers being friends with the friendly natives. Educating people about how Native Americans have been treated seems to be more important than getting rid of it.

Plus I'm going to say this right now, if you're in favor of getting rid of one of the few holidays low workers get, you're not not on their side.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



my bony fealty posted:

how do you bring an airport gun when its trivial to get a real gun

I

what


https://twitter.com/galapadoc/status/1257798051294478336?s=21

Totally

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

no, not really. like maybe you could break a bare bulb with one but you’re not breaking an outdoor light fixture with an airsoft gun

source: me and a bunch of dumbass friends having indoor airsoft wars

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LonsomeSon
Nov 22, 2009

A fishperson in an intimidating hat!

What a loving knob, the last thing you want to do is obviously take out lights as you move, providing an obvious and easy-to-follow trail as well as an indicator of where you’re going to be in a few seconds.

This isn’t exactly rocket surgery, these large adult sons accidentally packed an air soft gun instead of a real one. It is the least-dumb fuckup of the entire Pescador Pisspalooza incident.

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