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Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007

13Pandora13 posted:



I doubt there will be any meaningful fallout from it.

Trump will get reelected.

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Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

13Pandora13 posted:

The filing is long but worth a read https://apps.npr.org/documents/document.html?id=6882560-Rick-Bright-Whistleblower-Complaint

I doubt there will be any meaningful fallout from it.

Really? You think the guy who shrugged off impeachment and mass plague deaths can avoid damage from a random lawsuit? Boy, I’d like to see ol Donny wriggle out of THIS one !

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

Rolo posted:

In Blistering Whistleblower Complaint, Rick Bright Blasts Team Trump’s Pandemic Response

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/05/whistleblower-complaint-rick-bright-blasts-team-trumps-pandemic-response

This is interesting and makes me angry, but I know nothing will come of it and trump will inevitably be re-elected in November. Hail satan.

By that time, there’ll be a few hundred thousand less Americans.

OMFG FURRY
Jul 10, 2006

[snarky comment]
welcum 2 the 911 page!!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZcZ6eJoxeE

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy
Just in time for us to hit a 9/11 worth of deaths each day.

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Marmaduke! posted:

They'd be protesting to allow guns in airports and planes so they can shoot the terrists, and also to ban brown people in the name of freedom

You joke, but pilots being allowed to carry in the cockpit was legit one of the things that happened as a result. You know, in case they need to shoot someone at 10,000 in a pressurized cabin full of innocents that would get hit by every bullet that missed.

So not 1:1 what you said, but pretty close.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Pickle Rick published a blistering criticism on trumps handling of the crisis

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Sorry for accidentally spurring on politics talk, I really genuinely was confused by what he meant or what it had to do with to the virus and wanted goon opinions. Didn't mean for it to turn into an actual discussion ABOUT socialism etc.

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

your grandpa is an old poop brain

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
There are no words.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1257730653602361345

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Inept posted:

your grandpa is an old poop brain

Oh believe me I am aware. But the goon responses also helped.

naem
May 29, 2011


let’s “wind down” the white house

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

:d2a:

Lord Decimus Barnacle
Jun 25, 2005


Hell Gem
Uh. Didn’t you see they hit their goal of 60k dead. Why keep the task force going when you already hit your goal and months sooner than you thought too!

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

The ratings! They're not what they used to be folks! We had the best task force, just the best. The UK? They thought they had the best task forces but they were wrong. Our task force was bigly and successful, but the media folks! The lyin' media! Did you hear about that Biden kid? Bad folks! But the lying media never talks about that, do they? *pause for applause* The lying media, they were ignoring our great task force, they weren't covering it. We used to get breaking news coverage, the whole thing! People loved it! Great ratings! Just the best. But the media, folks, the media, they don't cover it anymore. They don't like our ratings, our great ratings. Jealous! Sad!

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

pro starcraft loser posted:

So the chance the people 'estimating' and spreading these laughably pathetic projections will be held accountable is zero, right?

The shittiness is baked into the scheme from the start, and their current stated plan is to "continually update a curve-fitting exercise to summarize COVID-19's observed trajectory" so they "can improve data visualization", IE: they're going to draw a new curve on the graph every day. You can guarantee that each new curve is going to show an immediate drop off to zero deaths really really soon:

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouseCEA/status/1257680258364555264


Note that the WH has been doing this all along with those terrible IHME projections (which is where they got their original 60,000 deaths projection which they trumpeted everywhere for weeks) except those projections always erred slightly on the side of caution by going "Okay there's probably going one more day of big numbers before everything improves dramatically and things are suddenly great again" and they also drew in a huge shaded area of uncertainty every time to hedge their bets. That meant that they could use those graphs for at least a week or two before it became super obvious that they were ridiculously naively optimistic and just plain wrong, and when they got to that point they just updated the graph by redrawing the happy curve a little further along:





..... but the most recent IHME model went "Okay you know what? There's not going to be a quick recovery, it's going to take months, deal with it"



.... which was obviously not the message that the WH wanted so they went and got the fuckin' Council of Economic Advisers to draw up the new epidemiology projections instead.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

..... but the most recent IHME model went "Okay you know what? There's not going to be a quick recovery, it's going to take months, deal with it"



.... which was obviously not the message that the WH wanted so they went and got the fuckin' Council of Economic Advisers to draw up the new epidemiology projections instead.

im the discontinuity as the graph passes from data to wild rear end naive speculation

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
Let's look at some unmassaged graphs.


https://twitter.com/yaneerbaryam/status/1256769252369072134


SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


The US Goal is only to flatten the curve, no goal has been made to actually lower it :smug:

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Oh it gets even dumber. No one consulted Fauci, he had no idea it was even being discussed:
https://twitter.com/PaulaReidCBS/status/1257741165383888897

Pence confirmed there'd been talks though:
https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1257742445443514375

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost
imagine destroying your country over just a flu

Pennywise the Frown
May 10, 2010

Upset Trowel

Is this graph real?

:psyduck:

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Pennywise the Frown posted:

Is this graph real?

:psyduck:

Relax, graphs are only abstract concepts of reality subject to interpretation

It can always be worse

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I mean it technically is a real graph how accurate is it? Well that’s another story!

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider

Burt Sexual posted:

How many people on this page are posting real politix. I’ll take a,rounded down number.

How about this number forums moderator Burt Sexual? gently caress you.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

It can always be worse

No it's fine. Everything is fine.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1257814281330069504

Xenocides
Jan 14, 2008

This world looks very scary....



Aide: No sir. They were saying Boo-adass Trump! Boo-adass Trump!

anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

Are those masks they're touching and ruining with their unprotected bodies?

Xenocides
Jan 14, 2008

This world looks very scary....


Have some adorable Chinese propaganda about the US response to this virus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5BZ09iNdvo

astral
Apr 26, 2004

Xenocides posted:

Have some adorable Chinese propaganda about the US response to this virus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5BZ09iNdvo

As appropriate as the baby voice may be, it was a bit grating on the ears.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Pennywise the Frown posted:

Is this graph real?

:psyduck:

I overlaid the current worldometers graph over it and the 2,350 deaths from yesterday have already busted through the IHME's "best guess" projection line:


Note also that the IHME's graph has a peak of 2,343 even though there's already been several 2.5k+ days according worldometers, so the two don't fit at all. I don't know where the IHME have been getting their numbers from.

https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

astral posted:

As appropriate as the baby voice may be, it was a bit grating on the ears.

Would you prefer they used Trump's actual voice?

Slam Pajamas
May 21, 2007
ALL TEXT TITLE ALL-STARS
I'm impressed Trump + co hadn't started selling homeopathic hydroxychloroquine pills

astral
Apr 26, 2004

Blistex posted:

Would you prefer they used Trump's actual voice?

Yes, although in that reality someone other than me would have made that reply.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

naem posted:

the only reason we have “waves” is that we shut down as stayed home.

The second that people interact in public en mass it’s big boy death time again

Please don’t allude to the demise of persons under SS protection.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Get with the times.

https://twitter.com/adage/status/1241402959038230530

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1257804182171549697?s=20

Blaise330
Aug 13, 2007

GOD'S FAVORITE CHAMPION

^_^

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8veP7T8ozc

Blaise330 fucked around with this message at 10:01 on May 6, 2020

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005
I like this graph from Trevor Bedford's twitter, atm it's capturing my read on the US situation pretty accurately.



The forever virus.

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Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/20/819038431/do-you-get-immunity-after-recovering-from-a-case-of-coronavirus

I need more information about reinfection possibilities in my life. Whats the newest word? I'm p. worried we're going to spend a bunch of effort on a nation/world-wide antibody test effort and "You've been sick" passports that let us go back to work, just to find out it's like the other coronaviruses we know about and we will just pick it back up next year regardless of antibodies.

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