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Jose posted:he's chatting poo poo I was watching an evening of Sunday TV from 1996 on Twitch a couple of weeks ago and there was an episode of his show on. One of the contestants was a Thai lady and he spent the episode racially abusing her and being an enormous creep. He is an utterly revolting person and must have some serious dirt on people to be where he is
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Angepain posted:https://twitter.com/novaramedia/status/1257950827983093763 Lol My BP has come right down since I stopped listening to radio 4, radio 6 is a much better replacement
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XMNN posted:Matt Hancock says he backs any police action against Neil Ferguson I keep seeing variants of the chart in that guardian article, and it confuses the hell out of me. It has lines for the UK and Italy, and then a separate line and a red circle floating above the chart itself, but not actually connected to anything. The text implies that the circle shows the current total death toll, but why doesn't it join the line (other than "it would look bad for the UK")? What are they actually trying to elucidate??
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Jel Shaker posted:Lol In that case make sure you never listen to Radio 2 between 12 and 2 
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BBC journo getting salty in the replies https://twitter.com/BBCDanielS/status/1257997289794174979?s=20 https://twitter.com/BBCDanielS/status/1258001125439090688?s=20 am I reading this wrong or is he saying it's no longer important enough to go in the rundown of headlines because it's 12 hours old? also if it's 12 hours old won't this be the first edition of today that could discuss it e: I am not reading it wrong, it had been out for 12 hours and it's not "an exclusive" therefore it is not worth including in the rundown of the most important news of the day at 8 am https://twitter.com/BBCDanielS/status/1258003025538547713 tbf they included it at 6 am when it was still news, andI have to imagine that's when their audience is the biggest it is for the entire broadcast and not e.g. the square root of gently caress all XMNN fucked around with this message at 13:01 on May 6, 2020 |
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XMNN posted:BBC journo getting salty in the replies 6am probably would be among their larger audiences, normally. Just not right now when vastly fewer people have to commute for hours to get to jobs starting at 8:30.
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Marmaduke! posted:I keep seeing variants of the chart in that guardian article, and it confuses the hell out of me. It has lines for the UK and Italy, and then a separate line and a red circle floating above the chart itself, but not actually connected to anything. The text implies that the circle shows the current total death toll, but why doesn't it join the line (other than "it would look bad for the UK")? What are they actually trying to elucidate?? 
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Whereas the "prof lockdown" story, which also broke 12 hours earlier and was not an exclusive, was very important to report upon, because Also, I saw the beeb coverage when the kill count was breaking:- Borrovan posted:BBC News at 10 headline: "Italy used to have the most deaths in Europe, but Health Secretary Dominic Raab says that international comparisons are not helpful" e: vvvv don't they hate trans people and basic rigour? (e2: the Morning Star, that is, I haven't read the Covid Times) Borrovan fucked around with this message at 13:16 on May 6, 2020 |
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May 6, 2020 13:09
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hi, i'm a terrible lurker. not sure if this has been mentioned but since i just found out (hadn't seen an email from hmrc or anything in the news), i thought I'd post it here. for any self-employed people: access to the self-employment income support scheme has been moved up. when it was announced it was due to launch in june, but hmrc are now going to accept claims from 13 may with payouts arriving in bank accounts 6 working days later. if you do the eligibility checker here (you need your taxpayer id and NI number), then follow the log-in to hmrc's system (you need your Government Gateway user ID and password for this), you'll be able to update your email and phone in their system so they text you a reminder when you can apply. this is a loving godsend for me, i lost all my income instantly (travel publishing industry lol) and would have struggled to survive until the end of next month. hope this helps someone else who wasn't aware death to tories
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Borrovan posted:e: vvvv don't they hate trans people and basic rigour? (e2: the Morning Star, that is, I haven't read the Covid Times) They're pretty terrible on trans rights, maybe also because they have good contacts with senior TU figures.
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gh0stpinballa posted:the morning star is pretty good isn't it, becoming a go to in covid times Just follow Solomon Hughes on twitter and you'll probably see everything in it worth reading. He also writes for private eye
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Marmaduke! posted:I keep seeing variants of the chart in that guardian article, and it confuses the hell out of me. It has lines for the UK and Italy, and then a separate line and a red circle floating above the chart itself, but not actually connected to anything. The text implies that the circle shows the current total death toll, but why doesn't it join the line (other than "it would look bad for the UK")? What are they actually trying to elucidate?? The only interpretation I can think of is that it's the chart's key, indicating that the UK death toll is represented by the red line  But... if that's the case... why is Italy not in the key? Or more to point, why is the text "UK" not simply next to its respective line, like "Italy" is? e: wait no, i actually read the chart this time and it looks like the red line is the official statistic? and the red dot is the... gently caress it i don't care Microplastics fucked around with this message at 13:26 on May 6, 2020 |
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Reducing the furloughing scheme now would fucken suck rear end, the minute the government does something even vaguely helpful and they want to kill it off because even that is too good. And even then it's causing no end of problems with clients in my office (as a CAB worker), reducing it to 60% is insane and will cause immense suffering and poverty among everyone not already ultra rich. gently caress the Tories. edit: slightly late to furlough discussion I see 
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:The only interpretation I can think of is that it's the chart's key, indicating that the UK death toll is represented by the red line II think it's just a badly labelled graph. Italy got its name right by its curve. Whoever made the graph could have moved the UK label down to the red line. However, that may have given a false impression that the UK is much lower than Italy. Probably would have been better to use the key for both UK and Italy and to move the key well out of the way of either of the lines, maybe over near the y-axis or bottom rh corner.
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May 6, 2020 13:26
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:The only interpretation I can think of is that it's the chart's key, indicating that the UK death toll is represented by the red line I think based on the axes that the red line represents the official death toll up to the 4th of May (29,427 announced yesterday would put it over the Italy line) and the circle is the number of people who have died after testing positive by the 5th of May. why those numbers are different, why they haven't drawn the lines up to the 5th, and why it's not better explained in a key or caption, are another set of questions
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Jose posted:Just follow Solomon Hughes on twitter and you'll probably see everything in it worth reading. He also writes for private eye ah i like solomon didn't know he wrote for MS
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:II think it's just a badly labelled graph. Italy got its name right by its curve. Whoever made the graph could have moved the UK label down to the red line. However, that may have given a false impression that the UK is much lower than Italy. Probably would have been better to use the key for both UK and Italy and to move the key well out of the way of either of the lines, maybe over near the y-axis or bottom rh corner. But the dot matches the title, that ~32k people in the UK have died. It seems from the citations that they're using one data source (Johns Hopkins (is that the plural of John Hopkins or Johns Hopkin?) CSSE) for the lines covering 22 Feb to 04 May, and then a single point of data from ONS/Reuters for 05 May. In conclusion a bad graphic, and deserving of a beating with 
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Already hearing the "60% will get people to get off their arses and back to work, bloody coronaphobia" bollocks from the work Tory contingent. I tried walking them through the total lack of logic in that but got nowhere.
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Personally, I'm really looking forward to going back to working from the office full time in the middle of a pandemic, it will be great to spend all day worrying about catching the loving virus while making other people money but also you still can't do anything fun in the evenings.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:II think it's just a badly labelled graph. Italy got its name right by its curve. Whoever made the graph could have moved the UK label down to the red line. However, that may have given a false impression that the UK is much lower than Italy. Probably would have been better to use the key for both UK and Italy and to move the key well out of the way of either of the lines, maybe over near the y-axis or bottom rh corner. That's not the key though. That's a data point. The footnotes kind of explain it - the metric changed before/after 5th may. The lines are using the old metric, the dot is using the new metric. That's why the axis changes colour too. It's a loving awful graph. Whether it's intentionally misleading or "statisticians are so used to looking at statistics that they don't realise it would be confusing for other people" ... 
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Imagine being scapegoated over an affair by a Johnson government. It's not even an affair. They had a poly/open relationship thing going on, nobody was cheating. Good luck expecting the press to explain that in a nuanced fashion though.
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History Comes Inside! posted:Already hearing the "60% will get people to get off their arses and back to work, bloody coronaphobia" bollocks from the work Tory contingent. It's weird, the people who say they're not concerned about coronavirus at all always get really annoyed when get right up their faces and start talking loudly, spraying spittle everywhere
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kingturnip posted:It's weird, the people who say they're not concerned about coronavirus at all always get really annoyed when get right up their faces and start talking loudly, spraying spittle everywhere Funny that. Almost like they're not concerned about other people getting coronavirus. It's like the people protesting hairdressers being closed - they're not wanting hairdressers open so they can work in them, they want them open so other people can work for them.
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feedmegin posted:It's not even an affair. They had a poly/open relationship thing going on, nobody was cheating. Good luck expecting the press to explain that in a nuanced fashion though. That makes me less inclined to trust that scientist's judgement tbf.
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XMNN posted:I think based on the axes that the red line represents the official death toll up to the 4th of May (29,427 announced yesterday would put it over the Italy line) and the circle is the number of people who have died after testing positive by the 5th of May. Terrible graph. Wouldn't even hand that into a teacher when I was 8. Media are really bending over themselves to not say how many deaths there are - they shouldn't be too worried as all the gammons just say more die of winter flu every year, let's AV IT EY LADS, LOIK DARWIN INNIT?
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https://twitter.com/AnnelieseDodds/status/1257987518978576384 Forensic
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sassassin posted:That makes me less inclined to trust that scientist's judgement tbf. I wouldn't trust any scientist who can't handle an equation with more than two variables.
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Lol if they cut the furlough support enough I'll probably just lose my job. I'm absolutely bricking it right now
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Jedit posted:I wouldn't trust any scientist who can't handle an equation with more than two variables.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:The only interpretation I can think of is that it's the chart's key, indicating that the UK death toll is represented by the red line Thanks to you and the others for joining in with the head-scratching. Thing is they had the same style of chart the day before, with the red circle way above Italy's figures presumably projecting for the next/current day as well, but then it didn't seem to match up with the next day's chart (in the quote). I'm sure they'll have another one tomorrow that manages to somehow put our deaths below Italy's (if we're not all too busy talking about poly otters).
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feedmegin posted:It's not even an affair. They had a poly/open relationship thing going on, nobody was cheating. Good luck expecting the press to explain that in a nuanced fashion though. But were there ROMPs involved. Were they SECRET and STEAMY  Was the other party a LEGGY BLONDE
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crispix posted:But were there ROMPs involved. Were they SECRET and STEAMY Boris is only 5ft 9
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You're all addicted...to socialism I know this country has a real masochistic streak but even this is going a bit far. Everyone I know on furlough is just hanging on by their fingernails really, losing an additional quarter of your wage would lead to rents not being paid, food not being bought, anything getting done. And no, we can't all loving work at Asda.
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justcola posted:You're all addicted...to socialism I think people might revolt/riot
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Ash Crimson posted:I think people might revolt/riot I think it'll take a good minute to get there though. Riots generally come out of existing protests, and if people are inside and not joining up for a protest it's hard to see how a riot will start.
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