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Communist Thoughts posted:Records mode owns and imo is a lot better for battles than romance Yeah I feel like the people who think that the generals are less powerful in Records have not actually played Records.
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Think 3k is finally clicking a bit, got an okay start as Yuan Shao. How should I deal with enemy commanders? I can't afford better archers than militia and all my generals suck at dueling
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StashAugustine posted:Think 3k is finally clicking a bit, got an okay start as Yuan Shao. How should I deal with enemy commanders? I can't afford better archers than militia and all my generals suck at dueling Just kill them normally. As in try to hold them in place with tanky units so that you can start loving up the rest of the enemy before coming in and striking them from behind.
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May 4, 2020 17:28
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StashAugustine posted:Think 3k is finally clicking a bit, got an okay start as Yuan Shao. How should I deal with enemy commanders? I can't afford better archers than militia and all my generals suck at dueling Archers are not a good solution to killing enemy generals. The accuracy is so bad that you could probably have like 5 archer units shooting a single general and it could take 5 minutes to kill him just sitting still. You can de horse enemy commanders by luring them into braced spears, that really helps limit their rampaging through all your poo poo. Your infantry won’t really chop the enemy general up, even de horsed. Cycle charging cav is the best solution to kill enemy generals, the units are spread out so the generals splash attacks do less damage.
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May 4, 2020 18:11
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Yeah I feel like the people who think that the generals are less powerful in Records have not actually played Records. Records generals seem both more lethal and also more able to be countered by anything other than other generals.
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StashAugustine posted:Think 3k is finally clicking a bit, got an okay start as Yuan Shao. How should I deal with enemy commanders? I can't afford better archers than militia and all my generals suck at dueling Dealing with enemy commanders, a list: B: Use all of your commanders simultaneously to pick them off one by one C: Send a spear retinue in their general direction, repeat until commander dead D: Charge with lance cavalry E: Stall them by dueling to buy your army time Ravenfood posted:Records generals seem both more lethal and also more able to be countered by anything other than other generals. During my Liu Bei trial-run in records it felt obscenely powerful to have access to so much cavalry so early.
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How does confederation and alliances work in 3k again? Need to figure out who I can leave in my coalition as Yuan Shao
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May 4, 2020 19:29
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Yeah with the end game I just used the river to capture a little province nearby Baxi to use as a spawn point, jumped a bunch of guys in and new lines right for Baxi, which was the Shu Han capital. AI was riding to stop me but there was no way they could catch me. The AI at least on normal hasn’t grokked the recall system, so taking their capital was a piece of cake, campaign in the book. alex314 posted:dude was commanding an army in process of ethnic cleansing non-Han people on their western lands that got rebellious. There was even a comparison between him and Julius Caesar's legions returning from Gaul. 2000 years later, same poo poo different flies skooma512 fucked around with this message at 23:27 on May 4, 2020 |
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May 4, 2020 23:20
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alex314 posted:I've listened to Fall of Civilizations podcast episode about fall of Han, and they put an interesting perspective that is completely absent from popular culture: Red Cliffs was the very last action that could have ended with saving Han Empire. It was presented as Prime Minister Cao Cao's last ditch attempt at subduing warring lords. Funny, that's the exact take Dynasty Warriors 8 has in it's Wei hypothetical mode.
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May 4, 2020 23:26
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Cao Cao was smart, he'd never take the throne for himself, but he'd absolutely tee it up for his best heir while seizing all of the de facto power. Very Caesar, just longer lived. Sadly Cao Pi wasn't much of an Augustus.
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May 5, 2020 00:18
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Angry Lobster posted:Because otherwise it would be a shamefur dispray. if you can find me a recording where he says it like this by this time tomorrow i won't probate you
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May 5, 2020 02:31
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okay one thing i dont like about retinues: it seems like you can't transfer your uber veteran starting militia to a backlines army and instead have to disband them all 
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May 5, 2020 05:12
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skooma512 posted:
I know it's in vogue to be a knuckle-dragging sinophobe right now and all the manchildren whose only lenses for viewing the world are video games and message boards think that the Hong Kong riots were some great political awakening for them, but in the interest of even-handedness maybe this kind of concern-trolling racism should be just as punishable as "shamefur dispray" poo poo?
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May 5, 2020 05:43
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what is your opinion on the uyghur camps?
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Autism Sneaks posted:I know it's in vogue to be a knuckle-dragging sinophobe right now and all the manchildren whose only lenses for viewing the world are video games and message boards think that the Hong Kong riots were some great political awakening for them, but in the interest of even-handedness maybe this kind of concern-trolling racism should be just as punishable as "shamefur dispray" poo poo? no how about you gently caress off
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May 5, 2020 15:37
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Guys stop being mean to the totalitarian fascist regime come on And instead tell me which of these video game men to play as first? I really suck at this game's strategic layer Edit: 3 kingdoms, I mean. Jeremor fucked around with this message at 15:54 on May 5, 2020 |
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May 5, 2020 15:49
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Jeremor posted:Guys stop being mean to the totalitarian fascist regime come on Sun Jian is fun by himself and he has some awesome kids to look forward to.
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May 5, 2020 15:57
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Jeremor posted:Guys stop being mean to the totalitarian fascist regime come on 2nding sun jian the game gives you story beats that guides you on a decent strategic path, your starting city and the cities to the direct east are OP for moneymaking and theres really no one to challenge you put sun ce in charge of cavalry
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May 5, 2020 16:03
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Yeah, it's been a while (before addition of White Tiger) but my main problem with Sun Jian was deciding on when to stop by expanding so corruption won't eat me.
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May 5, 2020 16:09
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Jeremor posted:Guys stop being mean to the totalitarian fascist regime come on I'll assume base game / Rise of the Warlords... Fightin' Dudes: Sun Jian or Gongsun Zan. Sun Jian is fairly safe with plenty of powerful heroes and units and has easy access to the most lucrative commanderies. Gongsun Zan is a good beatstick and has Zhao Yun who's incredibly strong. He also is in the corner and is good friends with Liu Bei for when you inevitably go to war with Yuan Shao. Talky Dudes: Kong Rong or Liu Biao. Kong Rong has a malus to armies but gets real strong off trade and is right next to best friend Liu Bei. Liu Biao is in the center of the map yet despite that is incredibly safe and maneuvring around diplomacy and just punching Yuan Shu makes everyone like you. Yellow Turbans: Gong Du is nice and safe and a strong hero. He Yi is in the central plains thunderbowl and Huang Zhong can be best described with nervous laughter at the starting position being between seven powers that utterly hates your guts. Bandits: Yan Baihu or Zhang Yan. Yan is safe and has two powerful heroes while Zhang Yan has a defensible spot and the absurd ability to launch ambushes off normal engagements.
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Yeah for some reason the game thinks that Cao Cao is a good starting faction but he's right in the middle of the yellow river thunderdome so it can be a challenge just surviving your first 30 turns or so. Sun Jian is a good first choice, as is Gongsun Zan -- finish off Gonsun Du first and then your back is in a corner and you only have to worry about a single front. Ma Teng is also a cool faction for cool non-genocide-denying people. His first four turns or so can be pretty rough, but there are plenty of step-by-step guides to punking Gong Du that you can follow. Once you're over that hump, you get to enjoy gigantic wads of cash from your silk road tradeposts, near-free cavalry from your horse pastures, a free elite mount every dozen turns or so from the animal tamer, a whole host of cool unique barbarian units, and your heir Ma Chao is just as kickass if not more so than his dad.
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I got Ma Chao as a turncoat as Yuan Shao  Also if I go back to medieval 2 after this are there any mods that make the core game work better (ai, quality of life) without overhauling it too much?
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Davincie posted:what is your opinion on the uyghur camps? That's kind of what I was driving at, don't know how we got to Hong Kong. It's also kind of weird to be called a sinophobe... when I have a Chinese surname. I'm not Chinese AFAIK, but I imagine my ancestors in northern Korea went back and forth over the ages. Like there's no love lost between me and the CCP, but I don't have beef with Chinese people in general. If I did, why the gently caress would I be playing a game about their history and stories? Jeremor posted:Guys stop being mean to the totalitarian fascist regime come on People are saying Sun Jian and I agree. The caveat is to not turtle in the south too much as his special resource is gained by fighting. You need to be fighting on a regular basis or you are going to have problems. I've run into issues when I'm too much of a carebear and don't fight enough and end up in kind of a failure spiral as you get penalized for letting that resource drop too much. Cao Cao is also easy BUT I recommend walking away from Chen entirely and getting that province that's south of IIRC modern Shanghai. There isn't many strong enemies down there so you can get a foothold. Eventually someone will take Chen from you but whatever you'll get it back later and rice is the best crop in the game and that's only in the south. Always play to your strengths in this game. Cao Cao is big on food bonuses, so he really shines in the south. Sun Jian mercenaries are great for spawning big armies fast that you disband afterward.
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Probably not the best place to litigate if the PRC is bad. Anyway I had to give up on 3k since my laptop is basically crashing beyond turn 100 so Venice in m2 it is then. How the gently caress do lance charges work again?
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skooma512 posted:It's also kind of weird to be called a sinophobe... when I have a Chinese surname. I'm not Chinese AFAIK cool
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StashAugustine posted:Probably not the best place to litigate if the PRC is bad. Anyway I had to give up on 3k since my laptop is basically crashing beyond turn 100 so Venice in m2 it is then. How the gently caress do lance charges work again? Have your cav at a decent distance, then single click on the target. They'll trot a bit then charge towards the end. *edit* Found the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mi8rUs240
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Trying out sun Jian now, thanks for the tips. Anyone have some quick tips for the research tree though? I feel totally overwhelmed and lost whenever I have to pick something. I've started down the red tree because I figure I'm going to be fighting a lot but have no deeper understanding.
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Jeremor posted:Trying out sun Jian now, thanks for the tips. Anyone have some quick tips for the research tree though? I feel totally overwhelmed and lost whenever I have to pick something. I've started down the red tree because I figure I'm going to be fighting a lot but have no deeper understanding. Rush the 10% replenishment focus. Nothing else really matters. Go green if you need food. Go yellow if you want hapiness/lowered corruption. Go blue or purple for income. It's not very nuanced and matters less and less as the game goes on. Deciding early on if you want to go industry, commerce or peasantry helps a lot. Industry is the least complicated, just gotta grab all toolmakers and mines you can find and enjoy absurd additional income from your research bonuses. I've been going peasantry for my last 5 games and I'm still unsure if it's ever worth the effort. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 13:30 on May 6, 2020 |
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People usually go for +replenishment techs. Other than that I'd grab additional trade, and then go for -corruption buildings. You'll need those administration buildings!
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May 6, 2020 13:29
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Tbh there's really no need to rush for the corruption modifiers. They're a lot less impactful than they look due to how they're applied. Administrators will be doing most of the heavy lifting on that front regardless of where you tech.
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Replenishment is almost mandatory, I feel. I kinda wish they'd spread it around rather than have it straight down the military tree. Argue that better industry means you get a better supply of weapons or something, so you can replenish easier, etc.
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Does peasantry income scale with pop of a commandery? I guess it does, right? 10% peasantry income on a pop at 1.2mil is more than 10% income on a pop of 400k. Or is it the same income no matter what?
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Jeremor posted:Trying out sun Jian now, thanks for the tips. Anyone have some quick tips for the research tree though? I feel totally overwhelmed and lost whenever I have to pick something. I've started down the red tree because I figure I'm going to be fighting a lot but have no deeper understanding. A nice single pick tech is the purple slave one that reduces all building times by one.
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Qubee posted:Does peasantry income scale with pop of a commandery? I guess it does, right? 10% peasantry income on a pop at 1.2mil is more than 10% income on a pop of 400k. Or is it the same income no matter what? Population used to only affect peasentry but now boosts everything.
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I still think food+tribute based economies are the best by far. Should be earning six figures of diplomacy income before the Three Kingdoms phase if you're striking food-for-tribute deals throughout the lands. Zheng Jiang is a boss babe working from home.
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It's a weird balancing decision that you can have corruption eating away 3/4 of your taxes, but not even a single grain of wheat.
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this just popped up on my feed: https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/1258033949693132800
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May 6, 2020 15:11
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Only way they could be more obvious is if they renamed their twitter Total Waaagh. Actually, they should do that. Bring on the Greenskins update! 
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For Sun Jian you probably want the techs that boost commerce since he has a trade port in his home province and the southern coasts all to himself pretty much. What you need is going to depend on your situation. When in doubt, a little extra money or food never hurts.
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https://www.totalwar.com/blog/total-war-elysium-closed-beta-faq/ CA is going to make a hearthstone except you play as Pontus.
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