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oohhboy posted:Speaking of Track balls, double keyboards? Two people typing on same keyboard? Bloody amateurs! 4 tracks balls, one man, 4 remote controlled guns. I saw that movie, in the theater, and remember gently caress all about this scene.
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My grandma used to do this for Dimplex in the UK post war: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7jAOcc9kBU
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oohhboy posted:Speaking of Track balls, double keyboards? Two people typing on same keyboard? Bloody amateurs! 
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Humphreys posted:My grandma used to do this for Dimplex in the UK post war: I'm reading this as your grandma and Dimplex being goons, and the UK post war being some sort of spat between British goons on the forums.
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 This was such an unobtainable dream computer when I first read about it in a 1993 issue of MacFormat. It only took 25 years but now you're mine! All the sites that had copies of the weird DSP software seems to have disappeared from the net, I would really like at least the "sAVe the disk" utility from https://lowendmac.com/sable/06/0405.html quote:This system extension takes the place of several (now lost?) Apple patches and also fixes some bugs Apple never touched at all. Most notable is a bug-fix that speeds up programs that play lots of sounds, such as games. Every time a new sound channel is allocated, the "DSP Preferences" file is updated; what this means is that every time you fire a shot in Marathon, your hard disk is accessed - that's crazy! sAVe the Disk fixes this problem and more!
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Microprose is being resurrected as a brand. https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-05-05-microprose-returns-after-two-decade-absence
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CaptainSarcastic posted:Microprose is being resurrected as a brand. Pleasantly surprised at the lack of the word 'kickstarter' in that announcement.
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Code Jockey posted:^^ My mom used to have a gray Microsoft trackball with a big offset red ball and it was one of the best mice I've ever used, man I miss it. I have a smaller Logitech trackball that I use now occasionally and it's nice, but not the same I've still got one of those trackballs at home, corded & still works  I haven't messed with it but still fondly recall playing FPS games like DOOM in the 90s & being able to whip the ball fast enough that I could just circle strafe fools like a hamster on meth
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r u ready to WALK posted:All the sites that had copies of the weird DSP software seems to have disappeared from the net, I would really like at least the "sAVe the disk" utility from https://lowendmac.com/sable/06/0405.html https://archive.org/download/cdrom-bmug-pdrom-f95 seems to contain sAVe the Disk 1.4.2. I only know this because I already have it and checked, not because I'm great at web searching. I think I grabbed it because I wanted an old Mac shareware/freeware shovelware compilation to find stuff for my (far less fancy) Quadra on! e: https://archive.org/download/info-mac-archive might contain it too, since ftp://ftp.uni-potsdam.de/pub/systems/mac/Configuration/00cfg-abstracts.txt says it was in info-mac at some point. That's much bigger at 5GB. If you download it, let me know if it's any good, because there's no information about what's in there! Buttcoin purse has a new favorite as of 02:36 on May 6, 2020 |
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The Pitstop site that guy talks about got archived as well - https://web.archive.org/web/20021002133103/http://www.sims.berkeley.edu/~jwang/pitstop/ Or go to https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.sims.berkeley.edu/~jwang/pitstop/* and 'filter results' with the program names to avoid having to guess what folder he put things in --- I don’t know if it’s a great fit for the thread, since this one’s mostly computer technology, but I came across some interesting electrical-mechanical balances while cleaning out an old store room. The weighing mechanisms are entirely mechanical, but the display is not. Inside, there’s a tiny light bulb (run off mains electricity, because this thing is from the 70s), a series of mirrors, and what must be a kind of microfilm strip with the dial readings on a swinging arm. A mass depresses the tray, which tilts the arm, the light shines through the strip, and the shadow of the strip is displayed – via the mirrors and presumably a lens somewhere - onto the display on the front of the device. http://scemosystems.fi/en/mettler-p1000-mechanical-precision-laboratory-scale-0-1000g has some photos of a similar model; mine has a different display and an extra dial to more accurately measure the 0.1g value. All the black parts on the display in photo 2 are projected shadows. Presumably these things were fairly common, but I struggled to find any information online. Is there a particular term for this design? The website above calls it 'optomechanical', but that didn't lead to much else.
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Buttcoin purse posted:
That’s pretty much how every text based app on the mainframe was built, right down to the Function keys. It’s like ISPF for everyone!
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Can we please bring back the flow-chart aesthetic on electronics?? 
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wa27 posted:Can we please bring back the flow-chart aesthetic on electronics??  I hope this thread can produce some more bonus internet points if they're on a synthesizer
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Digital watches and A/V components with as much text on them as can possibly fit are extremely my jam.
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Love the geometric 70’s-80’s Atari motif going on with that.
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Second one is the original model Sega Master System. Somewhere out there is an alternate universe where it had a bigger cultural impact than the NES and Hot Topic sells sick tshirts and wallets printed with that flowchart.
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Randaconda posted:like Sega could ever make good decisions *releases 32X about 8 minutes before releasing the Saturn; then releases the Dreamcast with proprietary CD tech which is exploded into a billion pieces by Sony putting a DVD player in the PS2* Some true supergeniuses running Sega in the latter half of the 90's. Infuriating.
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Gonz posted:*releases 32X about 8 minutes before releasing the Saturn; then releases the Dreamcast with proprietary CD tech which is exploded into a billion pieces by Sony putting a DVD player in the PS2* Sega of America made decent business decisions. Then Sega Japan shot them down and laughed all the way out of the bank and the industry. And Dreamcast was hampered (even) more by the fact that it literally wasn't for sale anywhere in the US.
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Yeah, Sega of America was doing fine until SoJ got a new president, one who didn't care for how much freedom the American branch had, since obviously the only important market was Japan. Money made in the US didn't count or something, so they pissed that away.
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Randaconda posted:Yeah, Sega of America was doing fine until SoJ got a new president, one who didn't care for how much freedom the American branch had, since obviously the only important market was Japan. Money made in the US didn't count or something, so they pissed that away. That's not to say Sega would still be around as a computer manufacturer had things gone differently, but they certainly could've made a lot more money while they still were. The Mega Drive had a huge user base world-wide.
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Don't forget the Dreamcast going "Our GDroms are good enough", skipping any kind if copy protection and then going Pikachu Face when the home CD BURNER market exploded in like 1999-2000
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FilthyImp posted:Don't forget the Dreamcast going "Our GDroms are good enough", skipping any kind if copy protection and then going Pikachu Face when the home CD BURNER market exploded in like 1999-2000 Why worry about piracy when you don't have games 
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Why worry about piracy when you don't have games The Apple approach, but without the logo that people are actually for
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Now, now the Dreamcast had a whole library of PS1 games you could play. 
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Eighties ZomCom posted:Now, now the Dreamcast had a whole library of PS1 games you could play. I did play a lot of Skies of Arcadia years ago. But obviously not the Dreamcast version as it's literally unplayable  Also the game is good because it resulted in the only funny thing I've ever seen that's from 4chan (or whatever): 
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3D Megadoodoo posted:Sega of America made decent business decisions. Then Sega Japan shot them down and laughed all the way out of the bank and the industry. It's got to be a cultural thing, because you hear of one branch of a Japanese company doing something that directly screws over another division of the same company again and again e.g. Sony Entertainment making Sony's iPod-competitor deliberately crippled instead becoming a world leader with the digital Walkman.
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Moo the cow posted:
go on 
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Moo the cow posted:It's got to be a cultural thing, because you hear of one branch of a Japanese company doing something that directly screws over another division of the same company again and again That's not exclusive to Japan. See: Sears/Kmart. https://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/ayn_rand_loving_ceo_destroys_his_empire_partner/ e:  quote:If you think that sounds batshit crazy, congratulations. You understand more than most of America’s business school graduates. 3D Megadoodoo has a new favorite as of 12:57 on May 7, 2020 |
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Randaconda posted:go on quote:Sony Chief Admits DRM Held Up Innovation Apple released the iPod - Apple, a company with no experience or credibility relating to music or small electronics. Sony: the people who invented the Walkman, who dominated the portable music market, who had a solid reputation for audio quality and innovation in minature electronics AND who owned an entire music division What should have happened is that Apple released the iPod, Sony took one look at it and then released a dozen new players: each smaller, sleeker, better-sounding than the iPod, backed with an instant library of music of all genres. They should have wiped the iPod off the face of the Earth in less than 6 months. Instead, their entertainment division insisted on a DRM format for the music on the players: requiring the listener to use their clunky and unreliable software to load the Sony players and no ability to share tracks with friends. Not just on music that you bought from Sony, but the players didn't support mp3 playback/recording- so if you wanted to listen to mp3s, you had to transcode from mp3 to ATRAC - when the computers at the time were just about capable of ripping at realtime speeds. Some people even found it easier to hook up an audio cable between their PC and their player and use the player to record from the PC audio output, as it was faster/more reliable than the Sony software. Moo the cow has a new favorite as of 13:28 on May 7, 2020 |
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The software was called SonicStage and it still brings fear to any man unlucky enough to use it. I survived my experience, but at what cost?
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I mean, I kinda get it, Sony was both a device manufacturer and a major record label, so of course the entertainment guys are gonna demand that their player will not play those gosh darn MP3s the kids are using to download cars while taking the music industry down with them!!! Apple had no skin in the music game so they could push a product that didn't give a poo poo about whether MP3s were legal or not and if the files had DRM or not, unless the files came from Apple Music, which they forced the record labels to use in any case. Sony would've needed to have a strong executive vision about what they were actually doing to avoid that trap, and well, lol
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barbecue at the folks posted:I mean, I kinda get it, Sony was both a device manufacturer and a major record label, so of course the entertainment guys are gonna demand that their player will not play those gosh darn MP3s the kids are using to download cars while taking the music industry down with them!!! Apple had no skin in the music game so they could push a product that didn't give a poo poo about whether MP3s were legal or not and if the files had DRM or not, unless the files came from Apple Music, which they forced the record labels to use in any case. Sony would've needed to have a strong executive vision about what they were actually doing to avoid that trap, and well, lol Oh you are dead right in that regard. However, Sony should have realised that they weren't going to win that fight and given in after about the first 9 days. At the very least, had their players supported .mp3 playback, while Sony Entertainment released their music on ATRAC-drm, they would have been market leaders.
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Microsoft Games For Windows Live. After having to deal with that for only 1 game I developed a healthy appreciation for Steam. It however never really disappeared. The Xbox dashboard is dire and lacks any real integration with their equally terrible Windows store.
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oohhboy posted:Microsoft Games For Windows Live. I always forget that there actually is an integrated Windows Store inside my operating system, I would never even consider downloading a game from that piece of poo poo, lol
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The only reason I have used it was because a friend gave me 1 month subscription to Xbox Live to play some exclusive games together. One was Sea of Thieves which was infuriating playing with a crew of dumbasses and was pretty drat shallow. The skeleton meme is real. The other State of Decay 2 which is now available on steam and I think the horrific netcode still goes through Xbox.
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I download games from it because of game pass, but it is terrible. Windows locks all the data behind a "Windows Apps" folder that you don't have permission to view at all. Check the properties and it will say 0 bytes. I didn't realize it was eating up 300 GB from a previous install until I looked at it with treesize free. Not to mention that Windows itself couldn't do anything with it when I wanted to install a game on that drive. It has to use the windows apps folder, and it can't share with any other windows install. Even loving with ownership and permissions wasn't good enough to get rid of the folder. I had to change ownership, give the admin account full control, use Treesize free to send it to the recycle bin, and then delete it from the recycle bin. All because Microsoft doesn't trust users with their own data.
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