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Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

Squalid posted:

are there any western customs that look absolutely ridiculous to people in China, and really are? Like what is the American version of fan-death, maybe something like vics vapo rubs? I've always wondered how that's supposed to work

Homeopathic medicine maybe? At least I never saw that brand of quackery in China or Korea...

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threelemmings
Dec 4, 2007
A jellyfish!
I mean they mentioned decoctions in that article just last page, unless they translated it into something different that's basically the same ol boiled into water distilled "essence" that American homeopathic poo poo is made of.

Maybe crystal healing and the more hippie new age type stuff?

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






GoutPatrol posted:

2 gram negatives into a positive

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
attitude towards guns and the govt doing poo poo

Mr. Smile Face Hat
Sep 15, 2003

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Seems they never learned about resonance from the Tacoma Narrows bridge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-zczJXSxnw

The resonance from that lovely music could bring anything down.

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

All my Chinese friends are absolutely baffled about guns or police killing people. Every time they see in the news about a shooting or a cop killing an unarmed (usually black) person they’re like ???? how does this happen, all the time?

Any time someone goes on a trip to the US people warn them about guns or violent crime and stuff.

Also Trump as a whole and current UK happenings have made several of my more outspoken and liberal Chinese friends jokingly (??) reconsider if democracy is actually good/think people from those places have squandered their freedom.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Squalid posted:

are there any western customs that look absolutely ridiculous to people in China, and really are? Like what is the American version of fan-death, maybe something like vics vapo rubs? I've always wondered how that's supposed to work

Elections, civil society, freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, the rule of law, the fifth amendment, the germ theory of disease.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

hakimashou posted:

Elections, civil society, freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, the rule of law, the fifth amendment, the germ theory of disease.

Poor people only get the last one

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Magna Kaser posted:

...think people from those places have squandered their freedom.

Well I mean they very clearly have.
Not that people of any country really have a chance against the sophistication of modern media though.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Freedom to choose means that you also get the freedom to choose wrong or make bad choices, and with that comes the freedom to fix those choices.

This is why democracies can adapt to change and course correct effectively while authoritarian regimes can't help but goosestep into their own graves

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Imagine if instead of potentially getting shot for being one of several minorities on a bad day you just definitely went to a work camp for being a specific one.

Cry Havoc
May 10, 2004

This cyberpunk cartoon avatar is pretty dang ol' good, I tell you what.

Squalid posted:

are there any western customs that look absolutely ridiculous to people in China, and really are? Like what is the American version of fan-death, maybe something like vics vapo rubs? I've always wondered how that's supposed to work

specifically the us, but pledging allegiance to a literal flag is seen as such by the rest of the world

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010

Shumagorath posted:

Imagine if instead of potentially getting shot for being one of several minorities on a bad day you just definitely went to a work camp for being a specific one.

So basically China is MTG and the US is Hearthstone

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Cry Havoc posted:

specifically the us, but pledging allegiance to a literal flag is seen as such by the rest of the world

tbf pledging allegiance to abstract concepts is probably better than pledging allegiance to an individual or state

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
The biggest derangement is that flag = troops and not doctors, teachers, troops, diplomats, scientists, etc - everything that actually makes a country people idealize enough to risk their lives landing in.

Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010
South Korea's pledge is not just to the flag but also specifically to the Korean race :eyepop:

edit: apparently they took the race part out back in 2007

Devils Affricate fucked around with this message at 04:07 on May 8, 2020

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

Devils Affricate posted:

South Korea's pledge is not just to the flag but also specifically to the Korean race :eyepop:
how inclusively pan-asian of them

LordArgh
Mar 17, 2009

Nap Ghost
i wish people would stop using terms like "the west" when they are talking about stuff that's pretty unique to the US alone

Cheesemaster200
Feb 11, 2004

Guard of the Citadel

Fojar38 posted:

Freedom to choose means that you also get the freedom to choose wrong or make bad choices, and with that comes the freedom to fix those choices.

This is why democracies can adapt to change and course correct effectively while authoritarian regimes can't help but goosestep into their own graves

A larger contributor is the distribution of power through federal styles of government. Distributed government allows for significant trial and error. Centralized government means that bad policy is amplified and good policy is harder to ascertain. China has dealt with this before. In the early 15th century, the Chinese navy under Zheng he was the most advanced in the world. They had numerous voyages all throughout the south pacific and Indian ocean. However by mid-century, domestic political issues with the centralized Ming government put an end to the overwhelming naval superiority of the Chinese. Meanwhile in Europe, an Italian propositioned the leaders of Portugal, England, Genoa and Venice to support a transatlantic voyage without success. Only after getting the king and queen of Spain to agree to funding does he achieve the first major foreign exploration of the new world. How would history have differed if Ming China was not so centralized and based upon politics of the court eunuchs? Where would we be if the Chinese with their superior naval technology had crossed the pacific and set up colonies on the American west coast?

We see a similar concept today with the pandemic of SARS-CoV-2. Multiples states are keeping strict lockdowns in place. Other states are beginning to reopen society. Is either strategy the correct one? We will soon find out, but only on a local scale. If the entire country had a unified policy, you could expect the negative effects to be much greater than the segmented approach currently underway.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Cheesemaster200 posted:

In the early 15th century, the Chinese navy under Zheng he was the most advanced in the world. They had numerous voyages all throughout the south pacific and Indian ocean. However by mid-century, domestic political issues with the centralized Ming government put an end to the overwhelming naval superiority of the Chinese. Meanwhile in Europe, an Italian propositioned the leaders of Portugal, England, Genoa and Venice to support a transatlantic voyage without success. Only after getting the king and queen of Spain to agree to funding does he achieve the first major foreign exploration of the new world. How would history have differed if Ming China was not so centralized and based upon politics of the court eunuchs? Where would we be if the Chinese with their superior naval technology had crossed the pacific and set up colonies on the American west coast?

Boy is there a lot to unpack in this paragraph

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Definitely an interesting what-if

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

IMHO China needs to return to cutting the balls off of all government officials.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

McGavin posted:

IMHO China needs to return to cutting the balls off of all government officials.

Even if it did nothing productive, it'd still be funny.

Shadow0
Jun 16, 2008


If to live in this style is to be eccentric, it must be confessed that there is something good in eccentricity.

Grimey Drawer

UltraRed posted:

Dunno how they do it in China, never been invited to look, but I knew was the case with the several families I stayed with in Japan.

The... umm... description of the food poisoning rate kinda sounds like maybe that is not the greatest method of preserving rice.

I used to date a Japanese girl who would do this too. I thought it was a waste of power and was kind of surprised someone would do this. It tasted better and less dry than I had expected from something which had been kept warm for days on end though.

The same girl also shocked me later by suddenly and adamantly deciding that cold water is deadly, so I don't really trust her judgement on food safety. She also tried returning rice when she realized she had bought rice made in China and began to panic she ate some.

My current girlfriend is Thai, and she has left rice in the cooker a couple of days a couple of times too, but she hasn't left it on ever. We've definitely thrown out moldy rice at some point before.

So I think, at least in my experience, it's fairly common throughout Asia, regardless of whether or not it's a health risk.

We're currently soaking some sticky rice for 24hr. When I die, I just want you all to know it's been a honor posting with you.

Shadow0 fucked around with this message at 05:39 on May 8, 2020

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Dandywalken posted:

Definitely an interesting what-if

Well what would happen if they sailed for the Americas is before they got past Taiwan their ships would be smashed to pieces by the first instance of rough weather because being bigger doesn't mean being more advanced

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Shadow0 posted:

She also tried returning rice when she realized she had bought rice made in China and began to panic she ate some.

This is the least crazy part, rice is very good at pulling pollutants out of soil and concentrating them in the plant. You should not buy rice from the PRC. Even in China, anyone who can afford it buys imported rice. In Chengdu most of that was from Thailand, I dunno if that's China-wide or just because of proximity.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
There's a crack in there about a colonised Australia, I'm sure of it.

BrassRoots
Jan 9, 2012

You can play a shoestring if you're sincere - John Coltrane
RE: making GBS threads
I did my post grad with predominantly Chinese student and the toilets were unusable past 10:30am. Those things got hosed in poo poo daily.

Then couple that with people clearing their entire sinus cavity in sinks and it was probably the worst disease vector in the whole uni.

BrassRoots fucked around with this message at 23:55 on May 10, 2020

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

I ate two (2) day old rice i had stored in the fridge and am awaiting death rn.

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

Now this is the Chinathread content I need, descriptions of Chinese bowel movements from leftover rice.

poopnanners
May 3, 2016

hey guys lets party
A few weeks ago I was riding my scooter and a local on an electric bike pulled up next to me and whipped out his phone to film me while shouting "halloooooo my friend." He had difficulty handling his bike and the phone at the same time as he wobbled into oncoming traffic. Followed me for about a kilometer. The second time a truck almost flattened him I was laughing because this guy is nuts. He, unaware that he nearly got splattered, also started laughing stiltedly.

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

Dont Touch ME posted:

Now this is the Chinathread content I need, descriptions of Chinese bowel movements from leftover rice.

Poorly chew the rice, stain it brown, add mystery flakes of something unspeakable, now grab a handful of it and throw it at the nearest vertical surface. The smell is 50/50 'plague hospital' and 'hot texas construction site porta-shitter.

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

https://twitter.com/hancocktom/status/1258642211110977536

i no longer have to give my passport over when entering malls yay

Shadow0
Jun 16, 2008


If to live in this style is to be eccentric, it must be confessed that there is something good in eccentricity.

Grimey Drawer
I still remember being absolutely baffled by the people pooping directly outside the train station bathroom on the streets until the moment I entered it.

Same day I also saw a guy pooping in a trash can directly opposite a policeman who stood there doing nothing.

Also people pooping in front of the Nine Dragon Wall in the Forbidden Palace.

I guess my entire trip to China was 95% seeing people pooping in surprising locations.

The babies' pants don't cover the butts to streamline the poop-to-streets process.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
We knew that already, you need to find some fresh poo poo.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


The poop stories are some of my favourite China thread content, please keep them coming

Gargamel Gibson
Apr 24, 2014
Where's Haier? Bring him back.

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Shadow0 posted:

I still remember being absolutely baffled by the people pooping directly outside the train station bathroom on the streets until the moment I entered it.

Same day I also saw a guy pooping in a trash can directly opposite a policeman who stood there doing nothing.

Also people pooping in front of the Nine Dragon Wall in the Forbidden Palace.

I guess my entire trip to China was 95% seeing people pooping in surprising locations.

The babies' pants don't cover the butts to streamline the poop-to-streets process.

no wonder it was forbidden

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Squalid posted:

are there any western customs that look absolutely ridiculous to people in China, and really are? Like what is the American version of fan-death, maybe something like vics vapo rubs? I've always wondered how that's supposed to work

NASCAR

tbf it's ridiculous everywhere.

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Mistle
Oct 11, 2005

Eckot's comic relief cousin from out of town
Grimey Drawer

Magna Kaser posted:

https://twitter.com/hancocktom/status/1258642211110977536

i no longer have to give my passport over when entering malls yay

Is that just Shanghai, or are other regions/cities following that order? I remember there was a very obvious march of infection going toward the ultrametropolis areas for a while, but then all the news stopped and only the random unverified mobile videos of "building door welding", "barriers hiding people" and "death wards" managed to get around the Great Wall without going past Uncle Xi.

Pretty sure it was a screeching halt and full-on lockdown to prevent the big areas from catching it, but China's reasonably good at not letting news out, particularly when protecting cushy party members losing face a serious public health crisis shows up.

oohhboy posted:

NASCAR

tbf it's ridiculous everywhere.

NASCAR was originally about using stock-looking cars to evade the law when running bootleg alcohol. People being showoffs, wanted to show them off. Eventually, alcohol was allowed again, but people really liked turning out to watch these souped up cars tear a line down a track(the bootleg alcohol they also served at events was a tasty bonus).

Eventually, people were fussing over "rules" like "how 'stock' does a stock car need to be?" so an official ruling body was formed. Due to parts costs and cutting-edge tech to win, it became a rich man's hobby, so the only people left to race were rich folks--BUT WAIT! Advertising was a gimmick, and companies decided they could give money to people so they could afford cars and parts. That's how cars turned into billboards, and teams were formed. Like anything, they eventually capped total teams, so now if you want in, you have to pay more to get on/in/with one of the current teams, driving the sport further into corporate and advertising interests.

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