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JBP posted:I was very excited to see her aggravate and defeat Leyonhjelm Oh same, but a more accurate thing to say would be “this thread only likes defamation as a weapon against people they don’t like” Or only when used to protect a discriminated against class like women, aboriginal people, etc I’m okay with either of those being used to describe my views on it  if the ends aren’t what you think justifies the means you’re just circle jerking about process
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Anidav posted:Federal Labor's big spending education and health policies appear set for the chopping block as Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese warns his shadow cabinet that COVID-19 and its legacy will define politics for a generation. Ah yes, like how western economies went full austerity to recover from WWII.
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May 8, 2020 00:25
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iajanus posted:The people saying so seem pretty confident, and that's usually a good sign of who is knowledgeable on Facebook. Just lol. Also are we so starved for news that a rich suburb spat is counted as news? Or is it a sign of how we value people differe tly. If this happened elsewhere is sydney, somewhere less expensive, it wouldn't be anywhere.
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May 8, 2020 00:37
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Hard to spend money when you are the official national opposition.
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May 8, 2020 00:39
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Amoeba102 posted:Just lol. I thought that was a good one 
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May 8, 2020 00:41
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Labor weren't going to have big spending opposition policies anyway after the last cycle, this is just good cover.
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May 8, 2020 00:56
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I know I can not wait until we are a one party nation
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Labor had some expensive policies but electors didn't want them because they can't understand anything more complex than a personal tax cut.
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JBP posted:Labor had some expensive policies but electors didn't want them because they can't understand anything more complex than a personal tax cut. I know but...gently caress man
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May 8, 2020 01:26
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Solemn Sloth posted:Oh same, but a more accurate thing to say would be “this thread only likes defamation as a weapon against people they don’t like” It's okay to make up incorrect statements about people?
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Stevefin posted:I know I can not wait until we are a one party nation Already a one nation party
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abigserve posted:it's not much fun hitting it at full speed on a bike thanks mate Poo chat!!!! I'm so excited right now! Turns out in NSW the laws are the same for horses and dogs: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-16/horse-owners-urged-to-clean-up-their-pets-poo-in-public/6549144 However police continue to be utter scum who consider themselves above the law: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/n...d0b138e10d01a95 quote:NSW Police have defended the right of horses to poop in Sydney’s city streets Heather McNab, CENtRAL August 3, 2017 12:37pm A police spokesmen said residents of Redfern should be used to cleaning up after Massa by now. They didn't use those precise words. -/- Polls we all love a poll! https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-06/andrew-constance-withdraws-from-race-for-eden-monaro/12219156 The Eden Monaro by election has been preceded by an astonishing round of smack our selves in the testes with a lump hammer by the LNP/Nationals party. It lost it's 'bell weather' status at the last federal election but must have some representative insight into the collective dismal psyche of the Australian populous. And this isn't just any old by election. A win by the forces of darkness would consolidate their grip on emergency powers. It being returned to the ALP would continue this government on a knifes edge to oblivion where a single mistep by Angus Taylor could send them into minority government or indeed a couple of badly timed Covid deaths rob them of government entirely. For me the question isn't so much "How can the LNP/National coalition gently caress up so badly and spectacularily in such a high stakes game" as "How can the electorate not punish such obviously self serving and incompetent buffoons". Watch as they waddle it in. Then abandon all hope for next Federal election regardless of the poll results.
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Cedar Meats cluster is going ham. 62 cases, not all workers. Lots of contacts including aged care and stuff. Testing blitz has been extremely good though as far as getting info.
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There seems to be a bit of weirdness about when one of the employees was last at work. Is someone cooking the books?
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The Before Times posted:There seems to be a bit of weirdness about when one of the employees was last at work. Is someone cooking the books? Absolutely.
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I wish albo would shut the gently caress up he's saying the right things but Christ he's like a text to speech machine
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JBP posted:I wish albo would shut the gently caress up he's saying the right things but Christ he's like a text to speech machine He has said the plan is clear. It's all good now.
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May 8, 2020 03:35
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Economy. Economy. Economy first. Society second.
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Zenithe posted:He has said the plan is clear. It's all good now. update, the plan is a massive flowchart he held on an a4 sheet of paper.
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Zenithe posted:update, the plan is a massive flowchart he held on an a4 sheet of paper. JOBS -> GROWTH
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Cartoon posted:Should have been wearing a full face helmet. Me dumping pigs heads on the cop shop front porch: SOME PEOPLE PAY VERY WELL FOR PIGS HEADS.
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May 8, 2020 03:39
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Two whole months to move through all the steps to normality. That seems unlikely.
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Am I missing something or is Morrison talking about this completely pointless when the states have already made it clear they'll be doing things at their own pace?
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I think the timelines might be fungible but they're going for a coherent message across the country as to what each stage looks like.
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They said it's totally up to the states as to when they implement these guidelines (and I guess to what degree).
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freebooter posted:Am I missing something or is Morrison talking about this completely pointless when the states have already made it clear they'll be doing things at their own pace? States will implement at their own pace, just looks the guidelines are standardised.
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A nationally standard strategy is the right way to do it, and that's what this is. Implementation of the strategy doesn't have to be uniform in lock step because the sort of unintended consequences like businesses moving to "more open" states isn't going to happen while travel restrictions still exist. The messaging about "we are all doing it the same but at our own pace" at least gets everybody talking about the same thing though. The overall timeline of a few months does seem heroic though.
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"But we’ve gotta get out from under the doona at some time. And if not now, well, then when?" Can we just cancel his analogies? This one is even worse as yes, we could stay under the doona for another 2 months and we'd be safer for it even if the economy wouldn't be.
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Solemn Sloth posted:Oh same, but a more accurate thing to say would be “this thread only likes defamation as a weapon against people they don’t like” While I think there should be some redress for people knowingly making untrue statements in a public sphere, the current system offers no official intermediate step between "do nothing" and "sue the guy". Surely there should be some facility to force the people involved to try to resolve problems before they become embroiled in the court system? My parents lived in a town where a guys life was made miserable because someone who didn't like him spread rumours that he was a paedophile. He tried to get the person spreading the rumour to stop and when they played dumb, his choices (besides moving) were to accept that a large chunk of the community were excluding him and his family/vandalizing his house for something that wasn't true, or sue the person who started this rumour for defamation to try and get rid of this reputation that was now following him around. So he spent a small fortune suing them, it became a huge spectacle, and the situation had gotten so far out of hand he felt like he had to follow the process through to the end rather than settling it quietly out of court. Thing is, this story could have ended very differently if the other guy had more resources to fight it in court - a lawyer could delay and stall and appeal until the other side runs out of cash to fight it. If the verdict is largely a product of how much money both of the parties have to fight this in court, the system needs to change.
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Les Affaires posted:The overall timeline of a few months does seem heroic though. Ah he's already clarified that with July being the best case scenario and that it could take longer.
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froglet posted:While I think there should be some redress for people knowingly making untrue statements in a public sphere, the current system offers no official intermediate step between "do nothing" and "sue the guy". Surely there should be some facility to force the people involved to try to resolve problems before they become embroiled in the court system? Isn't court mediation a requirement before a trial?
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May 8, 2020 04:21
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Sweet, so in Stage 3 Melbourne can start hosting home games at the MCG again
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quote:As I said the other day, it's like the emu and the kangaroo, they go forward, not backwards. And that's how this has to work. we're all going to die
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Mad Katter posted:we're all going to die gently caress off with this bullshit
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Quantum Shart posted:I think the timelines might be fungible but they're going for a coherent message across the country as to what each stage looks like. Strong "email from middle management" vibes here.
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froglet posted:While I think there should be some redress for people knowingly making untrue statements in a public sphere, the current system offers no official intermediate step between "do nothing" and "sue the guy". Surely there should be some facility to force the people involved to try to resolve problems before they become embroiled in the court system? From memory I think you're in WA, but in Vic it isn't true to say there's no official intermediate step between nothing or court. In some disputes here, mediation is a mandatory step before court proceedings. There are a heap of alternative dispute resolution methods, which cases can go to before court. Here there's also a Dispute Settlement Centre which can hear all kinds of matters, and also offers free mediation. If there's an honest misunderstanding then mediation can absolutely be a useful step. If there's a personal vendetta, which it sounds like your story was driven by, I honestly can't picture any other way of getting them to stop than court proceedings. People who go around making poo poo up on a personal vendetta aren't often operating in good faith (which mediation basically requires), so if they won't stop after being asked nicely, then of course cases will tend to escalate.
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