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seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

Deteriorata posted:

Given what the ER vet said, your cat may have slight diarrhea for the next day or two.

"They're toxic" is a general statement that doesn't necessarily apply to every part of the plant. Some bits are worse than others.

Yeah, I know the pollen part is worse, but I guess I'm just surprised they didnt have him vomit to get what they could out just to play it safe.

Dumb cat. After an initial 3 minute hiding session after getting home, hes back on my lap like nothing happened:

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Spikes32
Jul 25, 2013

Happy trees
We've been using two portion pro rx feeders and one rfid tag had the battery die 7 months early. The company is shut down for covid atm, I emailed them and hope they'll respond... If not I'm gonna have to try and break open the tag and get a new battery put in it.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
Does anyone have casement/egress windows and have experience with pet-proof screens? My cat scratched up the screens so bad last year that we couldn't even crack open the window without worrying about him escaping. If he sees another cat or a leaf or a figment of his imagination outside he'll meow and jump and claw at the screen, and obviously we can't stop him every time. We just have a simple mesh screen that came with it now, but I don't know what to buy.

InvisibleMonkey
Jun 4, 2004


Hey, girl.
No better time than quarantine to start and finish my abandoned projects, like this litterbox enclosure with slidey pocket-door for easy scooping! That's one less hideous plastic box in our small apartment. :)



Action shot!

SixPabst
Oct 24, 2006

Boris Galerkin posted:

Alright thanks. It’s just really frustrating (and stressful) for me because I just want the two to live happy lives. From my perspective, if I were being forced to live with someone that scares me (I’d be Molly in this case) I would absolutely hate my life and everything about it. So that’s why I joked about locking them into the same room until Stockholm syndroom sets in cause at least then they’d be happy even if it’s not real.

Yeah if you go back and read some of my posts in this thread I adopted a second cat (Mila) and the older one (June) HATED HER. They couldn't be in the same room together for like 2 months because June would chase down and attack Mila. I spent a good amount of time associating treats and play with each others' presence. That, along with Feliway and putting June on Prozac for a few weeks worked like a charm. Now all they do is chase each other around and play tag and wrestle and battle over the best window perching spots. They'll eventually figure it out and at least tolerate each other.

Trust me, Mila would just cower, hiss and growl with her ears pinned back at the sight of June. Now:

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.

InvisibleMonkey posted:

No better time than quarantine to start and finish my abandoned projects, like this litterbox enclosure with slidey pocket-door for easy scooping! That's one less hideous plastic box in our small apartment. :)



Action shot!


Do you have a, uh, blueprint or recipe or whatever for this? (Clearly I am good at thingbuildery, but this is so cool!)

InvisibleMonkey
Jun 4, 2004


Hey, girl.
Uhh, the project was abandoned because I lost my original plans so all I have rn is some scribbles on a torn-out page from a notebook. It's pretty simple though, here's some inspiration I found online: https://www.hunker.com/13713416/diy-modern-plywood-kitty-litter-box

I added the mitered edges for a clean look (plus it gave me the excuse to order a circle-saw) and the pocket-door hinge/slides, dimensions were calculated to fit the high-backed open litter-tray I bought online, the stubby legs are from ikea. I also used a beeswax/oil-based varnish inside and out to make it washable. I'm just an amateur so it did take a lot of adjusting to get everything working smoothly, but Katya used it already so it's a success.

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler

Femtosecond posted:

Curious if anyone has any experience with a cat living with ear polyps?

Done some research and it's clear that that surgical removal is the usual treatment (ie. grab it with forceps) and in some cases when that's not possible there's a more invasive (and effective) surgery option. Often the polyps come back with the former treatment.

The local cat sanctuary was curious if I wanted to take in a FIV+ cat that wasn't really fitting in at the sanctuary since I already have a FIV+ cat. Only issue is that he has ear polyps and during his last dental the vet felt the easy 'remove polyps with forceps' treatment wasn't going to be possible.

I'm curious to know what I'm getting myself into here, whether this would make sense or am I just piling up some problems and vet bills for myself.

Is some wiggle room here where people just leave them and only get surgery when (if?) the polyps become a problem (infection & smell, obvious discomfort for cat). The cat sanctuary only does surgery in these cases when they need to, though I wasn't sure if that's the consensus recommendation in the cat vet community or what the sanctuary is doing to save cash.

I'd be inclined to help since the cat is genuinely very sweet and nice.

Sound like a tough decision. It's hard to predict how badly these will get. They may never cause major issue but they may also be a pretty big pain in the butt. I guess since you already know about it you can be proactive about going to the vet often and catching things before they get really bad. Which you should take them often anyway being FIV positive.

I don't think they are necessarily not doing the surgery just to save money as a rescue. Though it is a pretty expensive procedure if you go for the actual bulla osteotomy. I don't know that most vets would recommend removing them if they aren't causing problems... but the down side is what if they grow and THEN cause problems.

I think if you like the cat and are prepared to deal with some possible health issues you could do fine. Be prepared though that the more definitive surgery is pretty expensive and I think only veterinary dermatologists do it.

kaworu
Jul 23, 2004

Regarding ear polyps, I had this come up recently with my 13-year-old cat Jackie, and it was sort of the first big decision I was faced with in terms of her health as an owner.

She had gotten an ear infection last fall, so I wasn't too surprised and didn't know that there was a polyp - initially just been a little irritated by her right ear, but very quickly just after we made the appointment, she was walking visibly off-balance and falling over every time she shook her head. It was also troubling since I had just moved across the country and I had sincerely hoped I had solved the issue with her ear.

So, at the new vet which I did have confidence in, they gave me several options. Money was something of a factor, and I couldn't really afford to go all-out with every possible solution. Ultimately, I did *not* choose to even really look at surgery yet, which of course was the option that cost twice as much as all the other stuff combined. I thought it was the right choice even aside from money, though.

With ear polyps, a lot of the symptoms can actually come from infection, irritation, buildup, swelling, etc. You seem to know that, anyway - some deep cleaning in her ear and some topical antibiotics, and they sent us home with ear drops. She went totally back to normal within days, and after a week all the balance issues were gone.

It was a very scary moment, especially because you really cannot know what is going on and how much it may be REALLY bad. But giving your cat ear drops weekly. and just making sure they don't start going crazy itching their ears and/or start having balance issues... Is that such a big deal? I mean, it has only been like 3+ months since Jackie had that issue, but it's not like the ear drops are a terrible cross to bear, and a healthy cat will generally not get infections out of nowhere, especially if you're using the drops. I don't know how being FIV+ would affect this, though.

Frankly, I think if you adopt a kid with those issues you have to accept that something might happen. Getting ear polyps removed is actually fairly traumatic surgery for a cat, presuming they can't get it off easily with forceps as you mentioned.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

SixPabst posted:

Yeah if you go back and read some of my posts in this thread I adopted a second cat (Mila) and the older one (June) HATED HER. They couldn't be in the same room together for like 2 months because June would chase down and attack Mila. I spent a good amount of time associating treats and play with each others' presence. That, along with Feliway and putting June on Prozac for a few weeks worked like a charm. Now all they do is chase each other around and play tag and wrestle and battle over the best window perching spots. They'll eventually figure it out and at least tolerate each other.

Trust me, Mila would just cower, hiss and growl with her ears pinned back at the sight of June. Now:



As a counter point I've had cats that clashed so hard that one of them started spraying all over the house nonstop, and it went on for months. They would immediately fight on seeing each other, and it only got worse.

I've still got one of the cats from that situation - he bonds with kittens but can't stand any cat he meets as an adult.

Femtosecond
Aug 2, 2003

Dixville posted:

Sound like a tough decision. It's hard to predict how badly these will get. They may never cause major issue but they may also be a pretty big pain in the butt. I guess since you already know about it you can be proactive about going to the vet often and catching things before they get really bad. Which you should take them often anyway being FIV positive.

I don't think they are necessarily not doing the surgery just to save money as a rescue. Though it is a pretty expensive procedure if you go for the actual bulla osteotomy. I don't know that most vets would recommend removing them if they aren't causing problems... but the down side is what if they grow and THEN cause problems.

I think if you like the cat and are prepared to deal with some possible health issues you could do fine. Be prepared though that the more definitive surgery is pretty expensive and I think only veterinary dermatologists do it.

thx for the advice.

I also sent an email to my vet about this and she called me back (so nice!) and we had a good long chat about it which clarified some things.

Another detail I didn't know about was that my vet would usually try to remove the polyps via an endoscopic specialist. The polyps were first noticed by a vet doing a dental and my vet said that it was pretty likely that he didn't have any of this specialized equipment. So even tho this dental vet couldn't reach these polyps via forceps or to get a sample for a biopsy, that doesn't mean necessarily mean that one would have to go with surgery. l

She did confirm that their stance is the same as the cat sanctuary's, that they only really want to get into removal if the polyps end up becoming a clear issue.

I'm inclined to take in the cat since this cat is doing very badly at the sanctuary (bullied by other cats and won't leave its cage) and I have the means to provide a much better living situation and much better care.

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler

Femtosecond posted:

thx for the advice.

I also sent an email to my vet about this and she called me back (so nice!) and we had a good long chat about it which clarified some things.

Another detail I didn't know about was that my vet would usually try to remove the polyps via an endoscopic specialist. The polyps were first noticed by a vet doing a dental and my vet said that it was pretty likely that he didn't have any of this specialized equipment. So even tho this dental vet couldn't reach these polyps via forceps or to get a sample for a biopsy, that doesn't mean necessarily mean that one would have to go with surgery. l

She did confirm that their stance is the same as the cat sanctuary's, that they only really want to get into removal if the polyps end up becoming a clear issue.

I'm inclined to take in the cat since this cat is doing very badly at the sanctuary (bullied by other cats and won't leave its cage) and I have the means to provide a much better living situation and much better care.

That sounds good. If nothing else maybe you could foster for a while and see if it's a good fit? Good on you for taking on a kitty with special needs. Hopefully it'll end up never being a big issue.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Anybody have any advice on how to reduce hairballs or if excessive amounts of them are an indication of a problem? Mel used to occasionally hack up the occasional one maybe once a month or so, but lately I've realized she's doing it almost daily. She seems to only do it at night while I'm sleeping so I wake up to a nice surprise as well. She eats wet food twice a day and while I leave a bowl of water out she never touches it. She's also short-haired so I don't think brushing is a big issue.

The hairball hacker in question:

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




Its worth talking to your vet, or she could have developed a food allergy. It took me a lot of trying, but eventually landed on a zero fish prescription food and barfing went down considerably.

The simple thing would be trying a new food of the same brand but with different protein sources to see if that fixes it and if not, talk to your vet, or just talk to them anyways, phone consults are generally free. Have you made any other changes around the house? New plants, things she could eat, etc. Have you checked the barf and it is just hairballs or has there ever been anything else in it? Even with the good food, if I miss a scheduled water fountain cleaning, Milly gets suddenly barfier until it's sterilized.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

If it's definitely hairballs and not general barfs, I'd work on brushing. Even shorthaired cats can shed and lick enough hair to cause problems, and if she's visibly barfing up hair, that's obviously happening!

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
I have a medium sized medium hair length cat who's shedding like mad, and he loves cuddling, so me and my stuff is covered in fur. Is this the zoom groom mentioned in the OP megathread brush stuff? I'm unsure because the link there is dead and I don't wanna buy something that might just be using the name while being uh, less than good. I'd get the fancy ones but I'm unemployed and money's tight, obviously.

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler

Kitfox88 posted:

I have a medium sized medium hair length cat who's shedding like mad, and he loves cuddling, so me and my stuff is covered in fur. Is this the zoom groom mentioned in the OP megathread brush stuff? I'm unsure because the link there is dead and I don't wanna buy something that might just be using the name while being uh, less than good. I'd get the fancy ones but I'm unemployed and money's tight, obviously.

That's the only zoom brush i know of maybe someone else knows for sure. Kong is basically a brand name I think?

VERTiG0
Jul 11, 2001

go move over bro
One of my cats has apparently pissed in a room we rarely use, I have no idea how long the piss has been there but the smell is quite apparent now. It's on carpet. Should I buy a big jug of Nature's Miracle and basically saturate the whole floor of the room?

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler

VERTiG0 posted:

One of my cats has apparently pissed in a room we rarely use, I have no idea how long the piss has been there but the smell is quite apparent now. It's on carpet. Should I buy a big jug of Nature's Miracle and basically saturate the whole floor of the room?

I've heard to run water through the carpet cleaner to rinse as much out as possible, then treat with nature's miracle or similar. It's hard to get out though especially for longer times. That sucks I had issues with cat potty training with my childhood cats and I remember trying to clean it out and it being a pretty miserable process. You'll probably want a mask.

VERTiG0
Jul 11, 2001

go move over bro
It is hell in that room now and I'm almost to the point where I finally use this as an excuse to tear the carpet out of that whole floor and replace it with hardwood or whatever.

Dixville
Nov 4, 2008

I don't think!
Ham Wrangler
Yeah that is probably the best long term solution. I have the opposite problem where we removed the carpet in the spare room and haven't replaced the flooring yet and the dog immediately peed and pooped on it becuase it's concrete! :downs: so now that room is pretty much off limits

gey muckle mowser
Aug 5, 2003

Do you know anything about...
witches?



Buglord

VERTiG0 posted:

It is hell in that room now and I'm almost to the point where I finally use this as an excuse to tear the carpet out of that whole floor and replace it with hardwood or whatever.

Our cat went through a phase where she pissed on the floor almost daily, and this is basically what we had to do. Luckily we already had hardwood underneath the carpet in that room, but even that got saturated. Cleaning it with Nature's Miracle helped but couldn't totally get the smell out, especially because the floors were old and worn and absorbed liquids. We ended up getting all the hardwood floors in the downstairs of our house refinished (which we were going to do anyway, but the cat piss smell encouraged us to do it sooner).

Gaj
Apr 30, 2006
Cat got diarrhea again. It appeared she had most of a normal poop, and then ended in a slurry. Last time this happened she seemed to be super lethargic and puked a bit. Ill monitor her for a little bit but if she has any more distress shes going to a hospital. After last time she had diarrhea I have made sure she doesnt have access to anything not safe to cats. As far as I can tell she hasnt been able to eat any food or be exposed to anything that could cause this in a cat twice in the same month.

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

Boogalo posted:

Its worth talking to your vet, or she could have developed a food allergy. It took me a lot of trying, but eventually landed on a zero fish prescription food and barfing went down considerably.

The simple thing would be trying a new food of the same brand but with different protein sources to see if that fixes it and if not, talk to your vet, or just talk to them anyways, phone consults are generally free. Have you made any other changes around the house? New plants, things she could eat, etc. Have you checked the barf and it is just hairballs or has there ever been anything else in it? Even with the good food, if I miss a scheduled water fountain cleaning, Milly gets suddenly barfier until it's sterilized.

Well the good news is unless she expertly hid it there was no hairball last night.

It's definitely just hairballs, and other than them showing up Mel has acted perfectly normal. There's some really loud construction going on in the other side of our duplex which might be stressing her out, but it's all happening during the day and the hairballs are happening in the dead of night, so I'm not sure if that's related or not.

Either way thanks, I'll keep an eye out and hit up my vet if I see another one. I will also try to brush her a bit more but she can be particular about when she's willing to let me do it.

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?

Dixville posted:

That's the only zoom brush i know of maybe someone else knows for sure. Kong is basically a brand name I think?

Okay, just wanted to make sure, thanks :thumbsup:

poolside toaster
Jul 12, 2008

VERTiG0 posted:

It is hell in that room now and I'm almost to the point where I finally use this as an excuse to tear the carpet out of that whole floor and replace it with hardwood or whatever.

You'll probably have to replace the subflooring as well.

HungryMedusa
Apr 28, 2003


I am about to get a kitten for the first time in my adult life and have some questions. I had kittens a couple times in my childhood and teen years, so I know some of what to expect, but it has been about 15 years.

I have no clue about cat food. I am thinking we want to do a mix of wet and dry. The kitten in question is from a litter that showed up in a relative's barn and looks to be three or four weeks old from pics, so I don't think they are eating the kibble the farmers put out for the mom yet. Is there a good go-to brand that works for both wet and dry? I would go in to my local Chuck and Dons and ask them, but you know.

Litter. There are 500 kinds. What is the best?

I read the OP and I get it, but is two really better than one? My husband is mildly allergic to cats. Will two be a lot worse than one in that regard? I don't think so; we know people with allergies and multiple cats, and we plan on grooming, vacuuming a lot; I will probably buy a HEPA filter for the living room and I am prepared to rip the carpet up, possibly even this weekend. Is one kitten doomed to be a lonely jerk, even with a playful doofus dog and pre-teen to play with?

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

HungryMedusa posted:

I am about to get a kitten for the first time in my adult life and have some questions. I had kittens a couple times in my childhood and teen years, so I know some of what to expect, but it has been about 15 years.

I have no clue about cat food. I am thinking we want to do a mix of wet and dry. The kitten in question is from a litter that showed up in a relative's barn and looks to be three or four weeks old from pics, so I don't think they are eating the kibble the farmers put out for the mom yet. Is there a good go-to brand that works for both wet and dry? I would go in to my local Chuck and Dons and ask them, but you know.

Litter. There are 500 kinds. What is the best?

I read the OP and I get it, but is two really better than one? My husband is mildly allergic to cats. Will two be a lot worse than one in that regard? I don't think so; we know people with allergies and multiple cats, and we plan on grooming, vacuuming a lot; I will probably buy a HEPA filter for the living room and I am prepared to rip the carpet up, possibly even this weekend. Is one kitten doomed to be a lonely jerk, even with a playful doofus dog and pre-teen to play with?

We free-feed ours dry food. Canned is a treat in the evening. They have a fountain going all the time for fresh water. Cat food brand doesn't really matter. Buy whatever your cat likes and you can afford. You can feed it whatever ratio of canned/dry you feel like. Posters here can get very passionate about their cat food, though.

Cats are fine by themselves. The recommendation for two in the OP is semi-facetious. Having a dog and kid to play with will be fine for entertainment for one. Get two if you want to, don't feel pushed.

HEPA filters are a good idea. Vacuuming will keep down the dander and hair and fleas. Get a monthly flea treatment regimen from your vet. We use Revolution, but there are others that are just as effective.

For litter, you'll have to experiment a bit. We use boring clay stuff and it's fine. It can be dusty but the litter box is in the back of a bathroom so it's not an issue for us. There is no "best." They work to hold poop and pee and control odor. Whatever works for you is the best.

Cats are very low maintenance. Food, litter, and pets keep them happy. They'll interact with you when they want to, ignore you when they don't. Relax and enjoy it.

HungryMedusa
Apr 28, 2003


Thanks, this is helpful. We will probably start with one. Next, I need to decide litter box placement which will be tough on the ground floor, but easy in the basement. We have some weeks to sort all this out.

I. M. Gei
Jun 26, 2005

CHIEFS

BITCH



What’s a good cat litter for 2-week-old kittens that are just getting introduced to litter boxes for the first time? Preferably one that I can find in a store near me and don’t have to order online while the Ronus is loving about with shipping times?

PetSmart and PetCo only have like 2 cat litters for kittens between them, and neither of them are recommended for kittens younger than 8 weeks.

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



we found a cat under our front porch with 5 kittens. after a couple days we asked around and nobody owns the cat or ever even saw it, so we decided to bring them inside because it was really cold and also the momma cat was out hunting in the really tall grass nearby and had a bunch of ticks. we think she was a cat someone owned and they drove her out here to the country when they realized she was pregnant because she's way too friendly and trusting of us to be a stray; she even purred when i picked her up to move her inside.

anyway, the kittens appear to be maybe 5 or so weeks old. four of them are super friendly and playful with people, but the one i really want to keep, an adorable little tortoiseshell, is very very shy. how can i better socialize a kitten to be more comfortable around humans?

p.s.









DEEP STATE PLOT fucked around with this message at 05:30 on May 8, 2020

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

DEEP STATE PLOT posted:

anyway, the kittens appear to be maybe 5 or so weeks old. four of them are super friendly and playful with people, but the one i really want to keep, an adorable little tortoiseshell, is very very shy. how can i better socialize a kitten to be more comfortable around humans?

Just keep loving it and getting it used to you. Being around other more gregarious cats and kittens will help. Build trust by never forcing it to do anything - allow it to come to you to play and get pets when it feels comfortable.

Like people, you never can quite predict how a cat's personalty will turn out - the same 2 kittens raised the same way can be totally different. One might be super affectionate and playful, another might be aloof or skittish. But your best tool for that is giving it a good, happy, safe kittenhood - most unsocialized feral cats grew up scared of everyone and always hungry, and if you want a well-adjusted cat, make its early life free of fear with plentiful food and water.

While kittens are great, this is why I always recommend looking for an adult cat if you really want a specific personality. Theirs are generally already set in stone and you can see just how affectionate, playful and socialized they are at the shelter. Plus adult cats need homes as they aren't as likely to get adopted.

Oh, and one more tip if you want a kitten to love you forever - get a plush toy that has fur similar to its mother, and once its weaned off suckling her, guide it to that. Then keep it near you, so it associates you and pets with it. We have a Cookie Monster toy that is well-loved by our former kitten (now young cat) and he falls asleep with it next to my wife every night.

HungryMedusa posted:

I have no clue about cat food. I am thinking we want to do a mix of wet and dry. The kitten in question is from a litter that showed up in a relative's barn and looks to be three or four weeks old from pics, so I don't think they are eating the kibble the farmers put out for the mom yet. Is there a good go-to brand that works for both wet and dry? I would go in to my local Chuck and Dons and ask them, but you know.

Litter. There are 500 kinds. What is the best?

I read the OP and I get it, but is two really better than one? My husband is mildly allergic to cats. Will two be a lot worse than one in that regard? I don't think so; we know people with allergies and multiple cats, and we plan on grooming, vacuuming a lot; I will probably buy a HEPA filter for the living room and I am prepared to rip the carpet up, possibly even this weekend. Is one kitten doomed to be a lonely jerk, even with a playful doofus dog and pre-teen to play with?

Most cat food is so highly regulated in the USA that there honestly is very little "bad" cat food. Just about everything labeled for kittens should be fine. We use Purina Pro Plan High Protein Kitten food because it's what the shelter was feeding him, and it has both wet and dry varieties. That's another idea - if you're getting the cat at a shelter, ask what they fed them, and use that. That also will eliminate the possibility of stomach issues that can come with switching food.

Yeah, getting 2 cats is a good idea, they will never be bored and lead richer, happier lives. Make sure they can bond, though - two kittens should work out well. If the second cat is an adult, be very choosy and make sure it's an adult cat that likes kittens. A recent mother cat maybe, or you could hit the lottery like we did and find a male cat that adopts every kitten he meets.

As for allergies, 2 wouldn't be a LOT worse than 1 cat, but it's a factor. Yeah, keep vacuuming, and consider avoiding long hair breeds. The main thing he should avoid is touching his eyes and face after petting the cats (without washing his hands first), that's generally how my allergies go off.

Rotten Red Rod fucked around with this message at 06:01 on May 8, 2020

Lord Zedd-Repulsa
Jul 21, 2007

Devour a good book.


Anything non-clumping is best for kittens under 8 weeks old to minimize gut issues if/when they get some in their mouths. And a reminder to everyone that it is kitten season and rescues are especially hitting for foster families this year. Kittens should be spayed or neutered once they're 2lbs/1kg. And if you find a pregnant cat, spaybortion is always an option because of overpopulation.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


HungryMedusa posted:

Thanks, this is helpful. We will probably start with one. Next, I need to decide litter box placement which will be tough on the ground floor, but easy in the basement. We have some weeks to sort all this out.

My advice for litterboxes is to go with a top-entry litterbox as soon as they're big enough to get in and out by themselves. It really reduces the mess you have to deal with because it stops them from kicking litter out onto the floor when they bury their poo. I use this $20 Amazon Basics one and it works great.

Gaj
Apr 30, 2006
Smother the kitten with love, give em pets, rubs, scratches, and a finger to chomp on. The more you socialize the kitten the less shy it will become. A trick I learned when they were being weaned, dip your finger in the formula/wet food and then give that finger to the kitten to nom on. I turned a shy, starving kitten into a cuddle bug in one night with that trick.

I have a question, Im taking my 7month old to the vet cause shes had diarrhea 2x in the last 2 weeks. Shes been on the same food and I make sure nothing is out for her to get into that would get her sick. Are there any tests I can ask the vet to do specifically? My curren theories is that she ate a poisoned roach or she has a GI issue, which her mother and siblings seem to share.

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

Rotten Red Rod posted:

While kittens are great, this is why I always recommend looking for an adult cat if you really want a specific personality. Theirs are generally already set in stone and you can see just how affectionate, playful and socialized they are at the shelter. Plus adult cats need homes as they aren't as likely to get adopted.

This is a good point. We applied at a fosterer for a mother cat because she looked like she had a lovely personality for us (confirmed on visit), but they wanted her to go to a home that had cat(s) already. So we've ended up adopting two of her kittens, and while they're both lovely and you do see some difference in behaviour that could predict future personality, they're a bit like babies - all kind of the same.

I think that helped swing it for us though (these kittens were much in demand due to their cuteness) - the fact that we are looking for cats (ages 1 to 20+ you hear me, no dying allowed!) in our lives, not kittens (ages 0-1 OMG so cute and tiny!) for their own sake.

And yeah we will do the full nurture component to encourage them to become snuggly lap cats, while being fine with whatever their nature gives us too.

Photos to follow once we pick them up in a few weeks!

E: And thanks for the kitten advice, we're in a similar position to HungryMedusa, having had kittens years ago, but Jimmy (ages 8-9.5 when we had him) was such a sensible, quiet, well-behaved boy that we have to keep reminding ourselves that 2 bouncy kittens will be a bit more work.

Bobstar fucked around with this message at 10:01 on May 8, 2020

mistaya
Oct 18, 2006

Cat of Wealth and Taste

Even as early as four or five weeks they've got some personalities. The batch I got for fostering had one that was clearly Boss Cat, one that was quietly the Smart Kid, one that would do anything for foods, one that had to be on your lap if you were within five feet of her, etc.

One suggestion I have for anyone socializing kittens is make sure you pick them up and hold them for a little while each day (on their belly and on their back) so they're not afraid of it as adults. It makes it much easier to do things like clip nails or anything a vet has to do if they aren't afraid of/fussy over being picked up.

poolside toaster
Jul 12, 2008

mistaya posted:

Even as early as four or five weeks they've got some personalities. The batch I got for fostering had one that was clearly Boss Cat, one that was quietly the Smart Kid, one that would do anything for foods, one that had to be on your lap if you were within five feet of her, etc.

One suggestion I have for anyone socializing kittens is make sure you pick them up and hold them for a little while each day (on their belly and on their back) so they're not afraid of it as adults. It makes it much easier to do things like clip nails or anything a vet has to do if they aren't afraid of/fussy over being picked up.

And play with their paws, so they get used to them being touched.

Masey
Aug 22, 2006
Pancakes.
So, I have this cat. His name is Bwonsamdi (2). He's a cool cat. He gets along pretty well with my eldest cat, Flash (14). He absolutely loathes my other cat Sterling (8). He chases him into corners, howls, hisses and so on. Sometimes he manages to attack him but Sterling is pretty avoidant and a scaredy cat in general so typically Bwonsamdi never gets close enough to do anything other than corner poor Sterling. I honestly don't really know what to do anymore, we did the slow intro and everything was fine for a while. Bwon slowly got to know the two other cats and occasionally there'd be social misunderstanding but then one day a few months ago it's like a reset button was hit with Sterling and he hates his guts now.

I'm worried because we took in two new kittens (7 weeks) from our neighbors who suck at taking care of cats (they basically started a feral colony on our block yay). I'm attempting to rehome one if not both of them but for now they're horded off in the bathroom we use the most frequently and Bwonsamdi is already showing the same signs of aggression towards these two for the few minutes he managed to sneak in and see them for. In the worst case scenario I keep both of these kittens and Bwonsamdi hates 3 cats in my home but I really just don't know what to do to make him chill the heck out. We've tried feliway and our home is designed in such a way that full coverage is nearly impossible (it's an old home) for a reasonable price. Bwonsamdi already gets the most attention, he sleeps between my partner and I and he's honestly a sweet heart to us and Flash (the oldest cat). I'm just stressed out.

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Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Feliway is garbage. It did nothing for our cats.

I hate to say it but sometimes you'll just have cats that won't get along no matter what you do. It sounds unlikely those two will ever get along. You may just have to learn to live with it and hope they eventually figure out an understanding that doesn't lead to injury or spraying

As for the kittens... Growling is a pretty normal response to meeting a new cat, it doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be enemies. Kittens tend to be very adaptive and if they grow up knowing that cat, it's likely they'll be fine with him, despite the initial reaction.

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