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i feel like many programmers conduct business affairs as if peeps arent allowed to lie they are fuckin allowed to lie op
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i guess i gave the impression i wanted to be a fte with this company, i dont
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May 2, 2020 14:08
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that's fine OP just don't trust your boss to follow through on her word and renew your contract if you don't have anything legally binding saying she will
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May 3, 2020 19:41
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what's yospos's opinion on startups i'm not in a critical life situation where i have to have it, but at 11-50 employees, i see some potential for decc equity assuming there's a decent exit they've only had a series A and two seeds prior to that, and their series A was back in feb 2019, should i be worried about the fact they haven't hit series B yet, or does beer virus mean everything's out of wack
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May 5, 2020 01:36
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i hit the moderate lottery, so did ratbert. it a job at that point. 3 man startup is where weird poo poo happens, and also if you are not really really good at sniffing out bad poo poo
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May 5, 2020 01:43
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they seem relatively established, and their market fit might actually be growing because of beervirus i just applied today so who knows if they'll even get back to me but i guess we'll see
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May 5, 2020 01:46
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applying is marketing interviewing is sales it a big meat grinder that you just mash the meat into. get lots of meat, yeah i dont care its a horse, filter it out once were sure its horsemeat. horsemeat tastes ok anyhow if you add some fat
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May 5, 2020 01:50
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Buff Hardback posted:what's yospos's opinion on startups
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May 5, 2020 02:21
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Buff Hardback posted:they've only had a series A and two seeds prior to that, and their series A was back in feb 2019, should i be worried about the fact they haven't hit series B yet, or does beer virus mean everything's out of wack every company is different. if they're able to make the cash last it should be a good sign, but it may not be. if you're going to be getting equity they should also be forthcoming about their financial situation/strategy
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May 5, 2020 04:17
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Buff Hardback posted:what's yospos's opinion on startups how many startups have you worked in prior? are you interested in the position itself, or just the equity? do not join a startup for equity. equity is for founders, investors, and a few crumbs given to employees 1-9. most likely, your shares will be worthless when the company is sold and your liquidation preference is after everyone else with a stake. you may get lucky and receive a windfall that's less than what you'd have made in salary and RSUs at a big company. you may win the lottery, but have about equal chances to win the lottery by playing the actual lottery, which is a lot less stressful than 5-10 years at a startup. startups are good in that you can have considerable independence to work on things you find interesting with minimal management overhead. the downside is also the minimal management overhead, as everything will be disorganized and in a constant state of change: startups (at least in the bay area sense) must grow rapidly to continue to secure funding, and rapid growth looks great on term sheets but really sucks to work through
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May 5, 2020 05:41
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CMYK BLYAT! posted:how many startups have you worked in prior? are you interested in the position itself, or just the equity? do not join a startup for equity. equity is for founders, investors, and a few crumbs given to employees 1-9. most likely, your shares will be worthless when the company is sold and your liquidation preference is after everyone else with a stake. you may get lucky and receive a windfall that's less than what you'd have made in salary and RSUs at a big company. you may win the lottery, but have about equal chances to win the lottery by playing the actual lottery, which is a lot less stressful than 5-10 years at a startup. 0 startups, interested in the position not necessarily the equity
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May 5, 2020 06:41
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there are three types of startup employees: founders, suckers, and mercenaries. * founders have significant stake in the company. * suckers have minor stakes. they take on all of the risk, put in all of the effort, and get no reward even if the company is wildly succeeds. * mercenaries get paid. if you can’t be a founder, don’t be a sucker.
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May 5, 2020 13:15
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even if a given startup ends up succeeding, employees' shares won't necessarily be worth any money because the company can engage in stock dilution at any time before IPO, conjure 10 billion new shares out of nowhere to give to VCs, and suddenly your stocks represent 0.1% ownership instead of 1%
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May 5, 2020 18:44
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i used 2 jobs at startups to magically transform from a Verilog digital systems verification engineer into a firmware engineer. i was definitely a 'sucker' in the mgmt's buckets and it was definitely a pay cut for a couple years also CMYK BLYAT! posted:do not join a startup for equity
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May 5, 2020 20:05
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by all means join a startup. they’re fun, and usually a good way to accelerate your career. just consider the value of your shares to be zero and never expect them to be worth more than that.
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May 5, 2020 20:11
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:even if a given startup ends up succeeding, employees' shares won't necessarily be worth any money or alternatively a separate share class that's guaranteed some minimum return before employee shares are even brought above water
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May 6, 2020 00:49
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Hey guys, I'm curious what kind of bargaining I can do with Google and if anyone has any experience with the FAANGs. I'm a Sr Developer with 10 years of experience and I just finished an interview with them yesterday that I felt went really well. The recruiter mentioned they were looking to hire me for a Sr/Team Lead kind of role for YouTube in San Francisco. Based off of glassdoor I'm thinking I can get somewhere in the 180~200k range for base pay, but not sure what the stock or annual bonus / signing bonus looks like. Also I'm not sure what they would give me for a relocation bonus. Do you guys have any recommendations on what I can realistically shoot for?
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Janitor Prime posted:Hey guys, I'm curious what kind of bargaining I can do with Google and if anyone has any experience with the FAANGs. I'm a Sr Developer with 10 years of experience and I just finished an interview with them yesterday that I felt went really well. The recruiter mentioned they were looking to hire me for a Sr/Team Lead kind of role for YouTube in San Francisco. what you want is https://www.levels.fyi
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May 6, 2020 02:33
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Janitor Prime posted:Hey guys, I'm curious what kind of bargaining I can do with Google and if anyone has any experience with the FAANGs. I'm a Sr Developer with 10 years of experience and I just finished an interview with them yesterday that I felt went really well. The recruiter mentioned they were looking to hire me for a Sr/Team Lead kind of role for YouTube in San Francisco. seconding levels.fyi. you need to find out after the interview what level the hiring committee puts you at, only then will you be able to figure out what to expect your compensation to be like. google has a reputation for lowballing but coming up a lot if you have a competing FAANG offer.
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May 6, 2020 03:36
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yeah I would've got a raw deal if I hadn't been like "give me more stock." but I did, and they did. levels.fyi is great
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Achmed Jones posted:yeah I would've got a raw deal if I hadn't been like "give me more stock." but I did, and they did. levels.fyi is great i did this but whoopsie daisy i work for a startup so those extra stock are still worthless 
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The Management posted:what you want is https://www.levels.fyi Yup that was it, thanks guys!
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May 6, 2020 06:01
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Janitor Prime posted:Hey guys, I'm curious what kind of bargaining I can do with Google and if anyone has any experience with the FAANGs. I'm a Sr Developer with 10 years of experience and I just finished an interview with them yesterday that I felt went really well. The recruiter mentioned they were looking to hire me for a Sr/Team Lead kind of role for YouTube in San Francisco. The hiring committee probably don't have much room to move on salary there, though you might be able to move on the initial stock grant. You also might be able to move them on vacation days; default (US) for Google is 15/year, increased to 20/year at year 3 and 25/year at year 5. You might be able to get them to start you at 20 instead of 15, especially if you have competing offers as such (or are leaving a job with that). Also ask for a relocation bonus, even if you live pretty nearby. That's often easy to do (and you can just cash it out into money).
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May 6, 2020 08:40
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Janitor Prime posted:Hey guys, I'm curious what kind of bargaining I can do with Google and if anyone has any experience with the FAANGs. I'm a Sr Developer with 10 years of experience and I just finished an interview with them yesterday that I felt went really well. The recruiter mentioned they were looking to hire me for a Sr/Team Lead kind of role for YouTube in San Francisco. Google doesn't typically negotiate unless you have a competing offer or competitive current total compensation. They will pay for relocation though it's at a fixed rate, I believe cash for new grads and a weird point system for everyone else.
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What would people put down when a company is asking "tell us why do you think we should hire you?" I ended up just restating few major points of my CV, but am wondering if they were looking for some aspirational type words Private Speech fucked around with this message at 16:59 on May 6, 2020 |
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May 6, 2020 15:22
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I normally talk about how my soft skills (that you can't really describe on your resume) lead to being a better engineer and team member than any other candidate. Like how I am bilingual and that has helped me to resolve some tough communication problems with customers in other countries compared to my mono culture teammates. Or how I can pick up on hidden requirements when product development thinks they have completely described a process that we need to implement.
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think of this question as “I’m a lazy recruiter. tell me what I should tell the hiring manager when I ask them to look over this resumé” describe briefly why you’re the perfect candidate for this position. you have the matching experience and know the technologies and you’ve done this kind of thing before, so they should bother reading your resumé
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May 7, 2020 16:35
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go play outside Skyler posted:how does job searching work in the USA? no, that’s how it works in the US too, a cover letter is optional and usually short, but you have a much higher chance of getting attention if you tailor your resume a bit in normal times, employers doing phone calls (usually under an hour) and then not calling you is not unheard of, but an employer completely ghosting you after an in person interview is rare (it’s only happened to me once in 15 years). taking advantage of the current situation by using more of your time on a video call and then ghosting you sounds completely possible.
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The Management posted:think of this question as “I’m a lazy recruiter. tell me what I should tell the hiring manager when I ask them to look over this resumé” often this is shooting from the hip into the dark, but sometimes you can get hints for their "perfect candidate" from the posting and tailor your Unique Selling Point accordingly.
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remember in star war when c3po was like "the binary language of moisture condensers is super similar to binary load lifters which I know" that's a cover letter
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if you're writing a cover letter that means you're applying more or less cold. you should be applying through a friend or a recruiter that reached out to you. if you don't have a friend at the company, find somebody on LinkedIn or whatever and get them to forward your resume. or hit up one of their recruiters directly (who will then pretend they found you and reached out, obviating the need for a resume). at least, that's how it works in the US. and of course all bets are off if you're out of work and need a job, but if you're not in dire straights and can be a bit more targeted, having to write a cover letter often indicates that a human will never read your resume
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I've had recruiters demand a cover letter even when the company were the ones who specifically reached out to me in the first place. If you can't take 15 minutes to write a couple paragraphs about how awesome you are idk what to tell you
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if you read what I wrote and got "can't" from it, I don't know what to tell you
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Achmed Jones posted:if you're writing a cover letter that means you're applying more or less cold. you should be applying through a friend or a recruiter that reached out to you. if you don't have a friend at the company, find somebody on LinkedIn or whatever and get them to forward your resume. or hit up one of their recruiters directly (who will then pretend they found you and reached out, obviating the need for a resume). I mean yeah I was applying cold, but it's a fairly specialised position in embedded and they got back to me right away and yeah I basically did the "this is really similar to what I did before in these ways, also I did this and that super agile there like you want" thing, I was just wondering since it wasn't really a straight cover letter and it wasn't super clear if they're looking for personal characteristics or cover letter stuff (which I did) now they've punted me onto their bespoke "algorithm and problem solving" online test, 70 minutes for 20 questions but they gave me a week to do it; so I've been rereading ctci because seriously 70 minutes is not a lot of time and it's been quite a few years since uni
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oh nice! I think I've had exactly one positive response from cold applying. that sounds much less frustrating than what I'm used to!
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Private Speech posted:now they've punted me onto their bespoke "algorithm and problem solving" online test, 70 minutes for 20 questions but they gave me a week to do it; so I've been rereading ctci because seriously 70 minutes is not a lot of time and it's been quite a few years since uni that can't be far away from a multiple-choice quiz, is that normal for embedded? because i've never heard of anything like that
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May 8, 2020 00:35
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is that Tesla? I did something similar for Tesla, as I recall it was a mix of simple quick questions (what will this line of code do) and a couple of more involved questions (write some code to do a thing)
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well i can strike my first big company off my first run of interview lists just got the denial from snap before ever talking to me, guess i'm not quite where they want me to be for a security engineer i just want to touch networks and poo poo and get figgies is that too much to ask
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raminasi posted:that can't be far away from a multiple-choice quiz, is that normal for embedded? because i've never heard of anything like that literally have never done one before, including when applying to (and working for) a well-known major company kinda weird but whatever, their loss if they won't want me it's not Tesla it's a mid-size medical devices company, it feels like they're just cargo-culting google/amazon more than anything e: they also said I'll need a pen, paper and a calculator, for a 70 min. online test so uhh yeah Private Speech fucked around with this message at 17:34 on May 8, 2020 |
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