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Bet you one of the counts of resisting arrest is when he was just tazed and had no control over his body.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1258656804143276032 To shreds, you say? Tsk tsk tsk.
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May 8, 2020 16:28
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The sheer number of street parties in my neighbourhood, jesus.
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May 8, 2020 16:32
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happyhippy posted:Bet you one of the counts of resisting arrest is when he was just tazed and had no control over his body. I reckon the drunk charge will be based on him having no control over his body, tbh.
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May 8, 2020 16:33
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Guavanaut posted:If the police are members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence, as they supposedly are, It's a totally inconsistent theory, but the principle of policing by consent pre-existed special treatment for cops so my understanding is that it basically survived solely as the basis for that one thing because it was easier than coming up with a new rationale. It doesn't follow that they should be held to a higher standard, because the whole (contextual) rationale for preserving the idea is that they should not be held to a higher standard, to allow them the same discretion as everybody else. Otherwise we'd have to, like, hold them to account or something. (apologies for the wooly explanation btw, my source for this is one half-remembered conversation over a boozy lunch with an anarchist human rights lawyer colleague of mine, who as you can imagine has some opinions on the subject)
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I wish I had grabbed a copy of one of the many photos that were shared on one of my towns Facebook groups, but someone spray-painted "Die English Cunts" on a wall quite near my house. The reactions were of course hilariously xenophobic and much to be expected from people of my town. Here's some local hero painting over the graffiti:  It might have been longer than "Die English Cunts", I can't remember what it actually said, it was this morning. I thought it was incredibly funny.
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May 8, 2020 16:52
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Borrovan posted:They aren't though. They're only considered so these days in the context of justifying police discretion: it's not possible for them to literally prosecute every crime they see, so they have to have some discretion in order to justify not doing that, and the justification for giving them discretion is that they're just members of the public & not justice-dispensing automatons. In most other contexts, they totally are treated as being special. If a person is paid to do something full time that would otherwise fall on everyone to voluntarily do part time, whether that's collecting trash or cleaning streets or pollarding trees, it's generally reasonable to hold them to a higher standard of work, or at least have a formal system where people can tell them they're doing a poo poo job. And if they aren't just the public and are a fully professionalized service with special privileges, then that's also a case for holding them to a higher standard either way.
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Dead Goon posted:I wish I had grabbed a copy of one of the many photos that were shared on one of my towns Facebook groups, but someone spray-painted "Die English Cunts" on a wall quite near my house. "The English Cunts"  ???Seems fine to me.
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Guavanaut posted:I can see how they'd try to wrangle that out of "the police are just the public" along with the idea that they're not responsible for any specific person's safety but only 'the public order', but the "paid to give full-time attention to duties" bit implies different. Personally I've always been a big fan of the "incumbent on every citizen" bit, because it theoretically means that if you & a few dozen comrades happen to come across some dickhead with a Starmer haircut & loudspeaker inciting racial hatred up on a podium, it becomes incumbent upon you to use reasonable force to stop them. In theory. Plod might disagree.
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I was wondering why there were people flying English flags and bunching up in crowds everywhere. The only thing more consistent than the chatter outside is the police sirens. Do people normally celebrate VE day?
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zentigeist posted:Do people normally celebrate VE day? No. It's Tory bollocks, inspired at least in part by a hatred of May Day.
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zentigeist posted:I was wondering why there were people flying English flags and bunching up in crowds everywhere. The only thing more consistent than the chatter outside is the police sirens. Only people like Farage.
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it's the 75th anniversary and theyve been going whole hog on the jingoism for it. havent seen any soviet bunting for some reason even though they did all the heavy lifting??? https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/may/08/uk-coronavirus-live-britain-ve-day-anniversary-lockdown-covid-19-latest-updates judging from the live blog this press conference is a disaster - 626 more deaths - 6th day where they've failed to meet the testing target - £16m to 5,000 charities to help feed the most vulnerable, which is about 3 grand per charity. also it's actually already part of the £750m they'd already announced, so they're not even spending an extra pittance
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75 anniversary is a vaguely acceptable reason for making a slightly larger deal out of it than normal but no this is a political invocation of nationalism to dominate the conversation and shut down dissenters of current political actions. Let's revisit these numbers in two weeks though and we can probably see how many people it killed.
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Oh dear me posted:No. It's Tory bollocks, inspired at least in part by a hatred of May Day. Holy poo poo I'm genuinely surprised at this, I've never lived in the South before I'm just shocked haha. They all do have the slapped ham look about them, is it like this every VE day?? Or do they just have a death wish.
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XMNN posted:it's the 75th anniversary and theyve been going whole hog on the jingoism for it. havent seen any soviet bunting for some reason even though they did all the heavy lifting??? I'm genuinely devastated I don't have my soviet flag to hang out my window.
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zentigeist posted:I'm genuinely devastated I don't have my soviet flag to hang out my window. Going to get it counts as an essential journey.
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Borrovan posted:Personally I've always been a big fan of the "incumbent on every citizen" bit, because it theoretically means that if you & a few dozen comrades happen to come across some dickhead with a Starmer haircut & loudspeaker inciting racial hatred up on a podium, it becomes incumbent upon you to use reasonable force to stop them. XMNN posted:it's the 75th anniversary and theyve been going whole hog on the jingoism for it. havent seen any soviet bunting for some reason even though they did all the heavy lifting??? Also some posters that are a bit more relevant than they expected when they got them. 
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zentigeist posted:is it like this every VE day?? Or do they just have a death wish. No, it's never happened before, I doubt many people were even aware of the date.
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May 8, 2020 17:32
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Petition to change Remembrance Sunday to Celebration Sunday.
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I think they're making a big deal out of this as this is probably the last big anniversary where there's going to be a signficant number of veterans still alive
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happyhippy posted:Bet you one of the counts of resisting arrest is when he was just tazed and had no control over his body. Twitter, so who knows, but apparently he had already been resisting for some time when the camera started rolling, including using the child as a human shield to push them away when they tried to arrest him. Bobstar posted:K-starm getting more praise from the best possible sources I see This is a great way to get the Olds on side to actually make the government do something about care homes though. I'll take it. Edit: Although hilarious trying to say that the only thing stopping Corbyn from favourable front page Torygraph spreads was just him asking. GazChap posted:I left my house last night to go and get some fish’n’chips, just as the 8pm clap started. Everybody was doing it, which made me feel a little bad that we haven’t been. It also felt massively uncomfortable, like everyone was sarcastically clapping my decision to not cook for myself. We had the exact same experience. Walking to our local park and realised it was almost Clap Clap Time and we still had a couple of minutes of houses to get past before we reached some open space. Everyone was just standing in their gardens watching us walk by and it was super awkward. Neither of us does the clap thing both because it's mawkish and because we hate the way people are using it to pretend like they give a poo poo about the NHS when they'll happily vote the Tories in. I sort of ended up doing embarrassed half clapping as we walked past the last few houses. Eugh. Also, someone apparently had an air raid siren. Prince John fucked around with this message at 17:39 on May 8, 2020 |
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:I think they're making a big deal out of this as this is probably the last big anniversary where there's going to be a signficant number of veterans still alive with the Tories in charge of the pandemic response, you might as well remove the word "probably"
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josh04 posted:
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DesperateDan posted:vaccums the piss right out of the balls hey it's technically correct great choice of headline imo
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XMNN posted:with the Tories in charge of the pandemic response, you might as well remove the word "probably" judging by the distancing not being done on my street right now, you're correct
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josh04 posted:
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I've got a slow cooker on the go at the moment, but can I just ask, how does one work? I've put in a load of chicken and other stuff, but how do they function?
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^ hot bulb in the bottom slowly warms everything. The Beeb has moved that "breaking" to the home page, where it doesn't even get the subtitle. 
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Prince John posted:We had the exact same experience. Walking to our local park and realised it was almost Clap Clap Time and we still had a couple of minutes of houses to get past before we reached some open space. Everyone was just standing in their gardens watching us walk by and it was super awkward. Neither of us does the clap thing both because it's mawkish and because we hate the way people are using it to pretend like they give a poo poo about the NHS when they'll happily vote the Tories in. I sort of ended up doing embarrassed half clapping as we walked past the last few houses. Eugh. Also, someone apparently had an air raid siren. I left my shift at 8 last night and started walking to the Tube, with people clapping and cheering, and emergency vehicles setting their sirens off... while I walked, trying to get my MP3 sorted out for my journey home.
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Prince John posted:We had the exact same experience. Walking to our local park and realised it was almost Clap Clap Time and we still had a couple of minutes of houses to get past before we reached some open space. Everyone was just standing in their gardens watching us walk by and it was super awkward. Neither of us does the clap thing both because it's mawkish and because we hate the way people are using it to pretend like they give a poo poo about the NHS when they'll happily vote the Tories in. I sort of ended up doing embarrassed half clapping as we walked past the last few houses. Eugh. Also, someone apparently had an air raid siren. I had to look up mawkish because it looked like it might have an interesting etymology, and I was right: From Middle English mawk, mauk, a contraction of mathek, from Old Norse maðkr (“maggot”), a diminutive of a base from Proto-Germanic *maþô (“worm”)
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I thought they just had a big heating element like a toaster.
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OwlFancier posted:I thought they just had a big heating element like a toaster. Huh, I'd always assumed it was a bulb, but looking online it's some sort of element in a band around the middle, yeah.
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If it was a bulb it wouldn't heat the sides and also it wouldn't be very efficient. Also it would have to get crazy hot. Slow cookers do get very hot still, they just don't need to always be that hot. Slow cookers are really good and hopefully your casserole turns out well Josef. I recommend trying to make pinnackelty if you get the chance.
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Oh dear me posted:No, it's never happened before, I doubt many people were even aware of the date. We only celebrate it on the 8th because Stalin asked us to 
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they cook slowly op but yeah the pot gets heated so make sure you have liquid in there to let the heat travel through the food, and you put the stuff that takes a while to cook on the bottom (like potatoes). Then you put it on and it heats at a low temp and it's done when everything is that temp (which takes a while because it's low temp!) If there's a high setting it just cooks hotter so it's done faster
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