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Willo567 posted:Don't equate threatening to bomb a harmless boy band to threatening to bomb a country that's routinely threatened to destroy South Korea, Japan and the U.S., you jackass. The bigger point is that people lose their minds, rightfully, when Trump says a bunch of stupid evil poo poo but no one gave a poo poo when Obama would make jokes about how he's allowed to unilaterally assassinate people. When that keeps happening it looks a lot less like people are mad at what Trump is doing and more like they're just mad their team isn't doing it.
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Willo567 posted:I wonder which is more unhinged: joking about bombing a boy band or genuinely telling people to drink disinfectant. Trump was joking about that too Also just lol at the depths you've sunk to, defending a threat to murder children for dating All you're doing is convincing me even harder not to vote for a rapist, look what shilling for one is doing to you, Christ
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May 8, 2020 18:18
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Willo567 posted:Do you believe he was actually serious I mean, since this was brought up: no of course it wasn’t serious, but this was an incredibly disillusioning moment for me personally and I wish it had been for more people. It’s disturbing that we have normalized a man having so much power over life and death to the point that he can crack jokes about it and it’s considered charming. That’s what decorous lesser evilism gets you, the most popular Democratic president in recent history laughing about killing people with drones
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misadventurous posted:I mean, since this was brought up: no of course it wasn’t serious but this was an incredibly disillusioning moment for me personally and I wish it had been for more people. It’s disturbing that we have normalized a man having so much power over life and death to the point that he can crack jokes about it and it’s considered charming. That’s what decorous lesser evilism gets you, the most popular Democratic president in recent history laughing about killing people with drones Yeah, the point isn't that he was serious. It's that when Obama goes "Haha, I get to kill people!" everyone laughs.
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May 8, 2020 18:20
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Willo567 posted:Don't equate threatening to bomb a harmless boy band to threatening to bomb a country that's routinely threatened to destroy South Korea, Japan and the U.S., you jackass. Obama; The President famous for -not- bombing countries. Willo567 posted:I wonder which is more unhinged: joking about bombing a boy band or genuinely telling people to drink disinfectant. Biden wanted to inject poor black kids with a "anti drug vaccine" that would basically just function to fry all receptors in their brain responsible for joy or a feeling of accomplishment. He also wanted the death penalty for drug offenses. Gumball Gumption posted:Yeah, the point isn't that he was serious. It's that when Obama goes "Haha, I get to kill people!" everyone laughs. That's because he was Our Guy and both of us are Good People so clearly there's nothing sinister there at all.
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edit: none of this actually matters and i am dumber for having written it but lol at obama doing "kill barney" humor, he's lucky he's got such good delivery because his material was pretty weak whiggles fucked around with this message at 18:23 on May 8, 2020 |
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misadventurous posted:I mean, since this was brought up: no of course it wasn’t serious, but this was an incredibly disillusioning moment for me personally and I wish it had been for more people. It’s disturbing that we have normalized a man having so much power over life and death to the point that he can crack jokes about it and it’s considered charming. That’s what decorous lesser evilism gets you, the most popular Democratic president in recent history laughing about killing people with drones They wouldn't be the first US citizens he killed with drones. Also, certain people in this thread keep ignoring that Joe Biden is a rapist and serial sex pest.
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May 8, 2020 18:22
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Obama actually has ordered the execution of an American child without trial, I feel like some people are missing that context.
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May 8, 2020 18:23
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May 8, 2020 18:24
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Sharkie posted:i remember the epic memes that came out of the booker campaign like I mean there was this classic photo:  Better times
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May 8, 2020 18:25
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evilweasel posted:could you identify the last conservative judge who was appointed by a democratic president to the supreme court? All of them. How many socialists have Democrats appointed to the Court?
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May 8, 2020 18:30
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Remember when Jack Kemp made a campaign ad of him threateningly cleaning his shotgun in front of his daughter's boyfriend? Haha what a card, they don't make comedy like that anymore, hahaha set that kid straight Jack, he'll be too scared to even unhook a bra before he's thirty LOL! Excuse me I've just been informed that the letter next to Kemp's name is not a (D), that ad is a horrifying display of toxic masculinity, and that despicable chauvinism is sadly the hallmark of Trump's Republican party, we must support women by electing this rapist now here's some content from 4Chan to reassure us that women like Tara Reade are all lying attention whores.
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May 8, 2020 18:31
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VitalSigns posted:Remember when Jack Kemp made a campaign ad of him threateningly cleaning his shotgun in front of his daughter's boyfriend? Haha what a card, they don't make comedy like that anymore, hahaha set that kid straight Jack, he'll be too scared to even unhook a bra before he's thirty LOL! In related news; The Rapist is now America's Sexiest Moderate https://twitter.com/yellowcardigan/status/1258805913718337537
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It's like that one cartoonist that draws Trrump as incredibly buff and strong. It's dumb and bad there and it's dumb and bad here.
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May 8, 2020 18:43
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Willo567 posted:Don't equate threatening to bomb a harmless boy band to threatening to bomb a country that's routinely threatened to destroy South Korea, Japan and the U.S., you jackass. Harmless? The Jonas Brothers were active combatants.
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May 8, 2020 18:45
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Sharkie posted:It's like that one cartoonist that draws Trrump as incredibly buff and strong. It's dumb and bad there and it's dumb and bad here. It's precisely like Ben Garrison because the incredibly engaged right wing of the Democratic party has an almost identical politics and worldview as the incredibly engaged MAGA shitheads. Their defining feature is the lip service given to the slightly differentiated stance on cultural issues that both groups of aggressive authoritarian assholes claim to have. Marxalot fucked around with this message at 18:48 on May 8, 2020 |
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May 8, 2020 18:45
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I wish there was a political party for people who don't want to support rapists 
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Marxalot posted:In related news; The Rapist is now America's Sexiest Moderate Turning a 70 year old rapist into a sex symbol to own the cons.
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Marxalot posted:In related news; The Rapist is now America's Sexiest Moderate i would honestly 100% believe at this point that biden is deliberately but incompetently being marketed to liberals and republicans alike as a pussy-grabbin trump clone
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May 8, 2020 18:48
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CYBEReris posted:i would honestly 100% believe at this point that biden is deliberately but incompetently being marketed to liberals and republicans alike as a pussy-grabbin trump clone This makes an incredible amount of sense and has a lot of explanatory power.
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May 8, 2020 18:51
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CYBEReris posted:i would honestly 100% believe at this point that biden is deliberately but incompetently being marketed to liberals and republicans alike as a pussy-grabbin trump clone To be fair to them; They would be idiots not to go in on having a coloring book after the $200 color-me-bernie ad campaign managed to thwart the ~$1.25bn spent by and on hillary clinton https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250274489 
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May 8, 2020 18:52
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Sharkie posted:This makes an incredible amount of sense and has a lot of explanatory power. Give him a cheap spray tan and he is a pussy grabbin Trump clone.
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May 8, 2020 18:52
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I think the most insidious thing in politics is the alienation of emotions. That is, to make our emotional responses taboo. This is partially the fault of conservatives, but the real blame rests on the shoulders of Liberalism itself. It is a philosophy which maligns illogical biases while at the same time denying that those biases exist at all. It's a don't ask, don't tell policy on the existence of your soul. And this has tremendously dangerous ramifications Most importantly, it erodes our capabilities for self-reflection. Without acknowledging our emotions, we attribute all of our thoughts to be logically or even materially driven. And I don't think that's fair to us and our feelings. So I want to make it known that for everyone who feels that Joe Biden is "good enough," I understand. I understand that Joe Biden makes you feel safe. He makes you feel heard, he makes you feel powerful. I understand that Joe Biden feels like a fair alternative to our lovely system. I've felt it too. I felt it in 2016. However, you are being emotionally manipulated. Trump is scaring you. And he should; he's a scary idiot. But Biden is capitalizing on your fear. He is attempting to rise to power over a scared populace and he's not offering any real changes to assuage your fears. He's saying "vote for me, you'll feel better." And maybe you will. Maybe you will feel better, as though you've done your part to make the world a better place. To Make America Great Again. But at some point you'll have to look at the damage his candidacy has caused - to the women's movement, to the environmental movement, to the very real change that we truly need - and wonder if your temporary relief was worth it. If it even succeeds.
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Biden has a long history of backing into and out of everything and everyone based on whims of the Republicans. If the R's want to go to war with Iran, it is not outside the scope of reality that Biden will help them. His actual history of policy towards Iran in the Obama administration is the opposite of this. Biden's team was part of the negotiations. Like, if you want to make up some scenario in your head about what the future holds, fine. But it isn't really a solid argument and recent past doesn't reconcile with it. quote:I don't really count the lives of one famous person over the less famous, so this is a death count less than one Obama wedding. That's exactly my point. Your point is wrong. You're talking about policy with Iran specifically. Obama literally struck a deal with Iran. quote:Trump is an ineffective idiot. Trump has expanded operations in the Middle East against Syria, scrapped a deal with Iran and started operations against them, continued opeations in Iraq, and expanded weapons sales to Saudi Arabia that had been curtailed in the Obama administration over their war in Yemen. His administration has expanded war in the Middle East. What in this constitutes "ineffectiveness" that's unique to Trump? quote:Right. This is exactly it. I have no reason to believe that Biden wouldn't have taken part in this, especially considering how he took part in promoting wars in the Middle East for literal decades. And let's be honest, 400 marines is a fart compared to the Obama surge. No. That isn't "exactly it". VitalSigns said "He bombed some airfields and then stopped". He kept the Obama operations and added to it. He's bombed Syria thousands of times a year. You guys keep arguing that Trump isn't expanding on the war in the Middle East, and that he's just bumbling around and occasionally doing some bombings. Reality says that isn't true. Xombie fucked around with this message at 19:03 on May 8, 2020 |
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Mekchu posted:The administration Biden was Vice President of sold arms to the Saudis who are participating in a genocide in Yemen. Trump resumed the arms sales that the Obama administration halted because of Yemen. There is almost nothing that you can point to with Obama's middle east policy that Trump didn't actively make worse.
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May 8, 2020 19:00
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Jesus Christ, they're cargo-culting the Trump campaign, aren't they? Someone please make a psyduck that is incredibly angry and depressed so I can express how this revelation feels.
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May 8, 2020 19:00
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Xombie posted:No. That isn't "exactly it". VitalSigns said "He bombed some airfields and then stopped". He kept the Obama operations and added to it. He's bombed Syria thousands of times a year. Yeah and Biden Democrats are complaining that he isn't bombing enough Funny how you keep ignoring that, it's almost like if you acknowledge it, all your bullshit falls apart
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i got owned posted:I wish there was a political party for people who don't want to support rapists There is, and if they manage to get 5% of the vote they get federal funding!
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Xombie posted:You guys keep arguing that Trump isn't expanding on the war in the Middle East, and that he's just bumbling around and occasionally doing some bombings. Reality says that isn't true. I agree that expanding war in the Middle East is terrible, which is why when I look at Biden's history, I cannot vote for him.
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QueenOfTheEvening posted:Joe Biden will not add left wing judges. The Biden presidency will be one of things not getting worse, but not getting better in a tangible way at all. I can see things getting worse. Just look at his record. poo poo can get a lot worse.
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Xombie posted:His actual history of policy towards Iran in the Obama administration is the opposite of this. Biden's team was part of the negotiations. Like, if you want to make up some scenario in your head about what the future holds, fine. But it isn't really a solid argument and recent past doesn't reconcile with it. This is rapid expansion and contraction of parameters here. I am making the larger point that Trump's death count is lower by magnitudes. If you have proof that Donald Trump's involvement in Syria resulted in more casualties than Obama's surge, please provide it. I will concede that Obama did not bomb Iran. In that tiny, technical, pedantic point, you are correct. Although to be fair, Trump didn't bomb Iran either. He bombed Iraq, and a powerful Iranian was there.
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The bar on foreign policy is so unbelievably low that Trump not actually starting yet another war puts him way above most other modern presidents on it This is because he's a coward rather than any kind of moral stance, but see previous statement re: low bar
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VitalSigns posted:Yeah and Biden Democrats are complaining that he isn't bombing enough Why should I to take time to "acknowledge" your imagined future policy of Biden's administration when you guys whitewash the very real current policy of Trump's? You guys keep pointing out how horrible Obama-era Middle East policies were, while downplaying the Trump administration ones in the face of reality. When pointed out that it isn't reality, you shift from using the actual Obama-era policies and lean on the opinions of the Unnamed Democrat. I'm aware you can always imagine something worse than Trump. But your imagination isn't an objective fact that people are obligated to acknowledge.
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PerniciousKnid posted:There is, and if they manage to get 5% of the vote they get federal funding! How would this even manifest itself? Couldn't both parties just do a "No third party" debate or something? Wouldn't mainstream media outlets just say "okay enjoy your funding" and then do nothing but talk about the two major parties? In a world that's controlled by private entities, what good is federal funding? Asking honestly
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Xombie posted:No. That isn't "exactly it". VitalSigns said "He bombed some airfields and then stopped". He kept the Obama operations and added to it. He's bombed Syria thousands of times a year. Does anyone remember when Trump suggested that troops deployed to the border should respond to rock throwing with lethal force?
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Xombie posted:Why should I to take time to "acknowledge" your imagined future policy of Biden's administration when you guys whitewash the very real current policy of Trump's? You know what's not imaginary? The US invasion of Iraq. Biden's record on that isn't imaginary either.
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Xombie posted:Why should I to take time to "acknowledge" your imagined future policy of Biden's administration when you guys whitewash the very real current policy of Trump's? Because Obama is constantly trotted out as the example of how Biden would govern, and it's a fact that Obama is a monumentally terrible far-right ghoul who Biden is even worse than
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Xombie posted:Why should I to take time to "acknowledge" your imagined future policy of Biden's administration when you guys whitewash the very real current policy of Trump's? Your argument that Biden is the lesser evil is also based on your imagination, I agree it's a stupid argument and instead we should deal with facts like Biden credibly raped Tara Reade and should not be president. Also fact: Biden has a higher body count than Trump just from the Iraq War alone
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VitalSigns posted:Your argument that Biden is the lesser evil is also based on your imagination, I agree it's a stupid argument and instead we should deal with facts like Biden credibly raped Tara Reade and should not be president Also he has dementia, also he's a racist, also he's spent his entire life loving over the people he's responsible for, also just pick a reason really, there's a lot of them
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