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Vitamin P posted:So they're already extending the furlough well past the point they say we'll be back at work but at a rate insufficient for poorer workers to live on what the gently caress is happening people were suggesting it's a way to drive workers out of their furloughed jobs so they look for new (non-furloughed) ones, without anyone having to pay redundancy  e- current alert level is 53% baka kaba fucked around with this message at 23:55 on May 10, 2020 |
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This graph bothers me  Why the gently caress is the R=1 line vertical?
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Lungboy posted:This graph bothers me That graph sort of makes sense, in a vague way. If you assume that the vertical axis is new cases and the horizontal axis is time then at the peak R=1 (because when R=1 new cases are constant).
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Josef bugman posted:The fact that a lot of the major museums are collectively going "no, lol" to the governments statements is kind of hilarious to me. They may get us back in to look at the extension and learn the new exhibits, or maybe just do miscellaneous things, before we reopen though. I want to go back to work, but I'm also fully aware that a hands-on science centre is, by definition, somewhere where every surface is a contact surface.
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Hallucinogenic Toreador posted:That graph sort of makes sense, in a vague way. If you assume that the vertical axis is new cases and the horizontal axis is time then at the peak R=1 (because when R=1 new cases are constant). But R is related to time, so it should be on the Y axis not X, same as new cases would be. See this scottish version from the other day: 
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It makes sense if you think, as the government probably does, that R cannot go back up because we sorted it 
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What do they mean lifting restrictions on exercise, I didn't know there were any
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Crankit posted:What do they mean lifting restrictions on exercise, I didn't know there were any Unless there's been new legislation while I wasn't paying attention there aren't, but there's a popular idea that you're limited to one hour of exercise once per day. The government seems to believe this despite them writing the law that doesn't say that.
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It means next week the briefings are gonna be done like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozoTzkCeO-A Also this is the new format for the NHS clap. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 00:27 on May 11, 2020 |
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May 11, 2020 00:23
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Lungboy posted:This graph bothers me
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big scary monsters posted:Unless there's been new legislation while I wasn't paying attention there aren't, but there's a popular idea that you're limited to one hour of exercise once per day. The government seems to believe this despite them writing the law that doesn't say that. I think it's just Wales that specifies people could only exercise once a day, so all this means is Bojo was telling Wales that it's his rules that apply to the whole country. Even though it doesn't work like that.
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big scary monsters posted:Unless there's been new legislation while I wasn't paying attention there aren't, but there's a popular idea that you're limited to one hour of exercise once per day. The government seems to believe this despite them writing the law that doesn't say that. Boris asked for everyone to exercise no more than once a day, but it wasn't written into law because even the Tories have enough self awareness to realise there aren't enough police left to enforce that.
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Lungboy posted:But R is related to time, so it should be on the Y axis not X, same as new cases would be. See this scottish version from the other day: The Scottish graph is plotting R on one of it's Y-axes, so R=1 is a horizontal line. The English graph isn't plotting R, it's just using a vertical line to mark the time when R=1. To be clear, the fact that we're having this conversation proves that it is a confusing graph, but that line isn't wrong per se. (In fact the Scottish graph is wrong because it doesn't have R=1 coinciding with each of the local peaks, although they did line it up for the first peak. Edit: my mistake, R=1 only coincides with the peak of new cases, the Scottish graph is just current cases.) Hallucinogenic Toreador fucked around with this message at 00:31 on May 11, 2020 |
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Paul.Power posted:Yeah, can't see my work reopening until the schools do, and even then it may be a while before any school will be happy to visit. I love that they tried to do the whole "well if you up the pay to employees this will look very poor when you are asking for funding. As if funding hasn't been being cut every loving year anyway.
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just go around trying to sneak up on people and shouting 'boo'. if they jump, that's signs of a lack of being alert and you know how to fix that! jail
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xtothez posted:Boris asked for everyone to exercise no more than once a day, but it wasn't written into law because even the Tories have enough self awareness to realise there aren't enough police left to enforce that. Ah right, thanks. I don't think all restrictions necessarily have to be backed by law, plenty of countries seem to have done OK with some part of their response being voluntary measures. But where that's been effective it's been backed with clear, consistent government communication over weeks, not the entire country trying to interpret a vague and contradictory series of off-the-cuff remarks from various ministers.
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we can't figure out what the deal is exactly and we're all hopeless politics nerds, what goddamn hope do normal human beings with stuff to think about have
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big scary monsters posted:Ah right, thanks. What gets me is the tory cult all claiming the messaging tonight was clear and unambiguous. I didn't watch it, I had a nap. But judging from the comments of everyone who doesn't have a union jack in their profile pic, they are in a minority.
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May 11, 2020 00:57
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He spoke for 13 minutes but communicated gently caress all
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big scary monsters posted:Ah right, thanks. It's also the fact that the media and the Tories are both libertarian as gently caress, and if there's one thing a libertarian doesn't like, it's the Government telling them what to do. So there's this natural resistance from a large number of people against the politicians they voted for. Basically, the media and the Tories have been trying hard for decades to turn the British people into cunts, and they've got what they wanted.
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crispix posted:He spoke for 13 minutes but communicated gently caress all He communicated that any further deaths are our fault, not his.
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They’ll reduce the furlough payments but start offering cash rewards to people who snitch on their neighbours for having a barbecue or sunbathing in the garden (stay alert!).
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Even Kuenssberg can't avoid hinting that Johnson's hated by most of his party
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One day, we’ll look back on this time and say “hey, remember when all the right-wing papers actively tried to murder their own readership?”, and we’ll laugh. If any of us are left.
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You don't need to wait to do that. Live in the moment.
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Eagerly waiting for the first “my dad dragged me away from fortnight to play some stupid golf again fml” post
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I take it the speech did not go well. Even he nominally soft Tories on my Facebook wall are having a go
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What the gently caress does stay alert even mean? Stay alert for what? Is COVID19 like The Flood or something where you have to stay alert lest you get overwhelmed by a swarm of infection forms? For what it’s worth at my job they’ve said nothing has changed for now. Furloughed staff are still furloughed and those working from home will continue to do so. Traffic was dead coming in this morning but will see how that changes.
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It's almost like a sense of general and nondescript fear is useful to right wing governments.
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Angepain posted:just go around trying to sneak up on people and shouting 'boo'. if they jump, that's signs of a lack of being alert and you know how to fix that! jail
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Sure hope none of the people Boris just sent back to work need any health & safety guidance for the next 6 hours
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Jippa posted:Clapping is the UK's "thoughts and prayers". Clapping I can understand, but banging pots and pans is just an arms race to make the most noise.
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Oodles posted:Clapping I can understand, but banging pots and pans is just an arms race to make the most noise. 1 decibel = 1 respect
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