peter gabriel posted:

Not enough bears?

peter gabriel posted:

Sarsapariller posted:

How to summarize Star Citizen for your credulous friends:

1) Present them with the official vision from 4 years ago about how Star Citizen's just about to come together:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaJx4TdshFA

2) Present them with this bug compilation from 3 years ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANN8E-vd13U

3) Explain that despite those videos being 3-4 years out of date, they both perfectly represent the current state of the game, and that is why it is a scam.

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Congratulations! If your friend is not a moron, you have successfully warned them about Star Citizen.

zxqv8 posted:

Oh I dunno if this is standard for everyone or what, but everywhere I went, NPCs were just standing on chairs:

colonelwest posted:

It’s been the in the game for years but somehow has gotten even worse. When I first played SC 2 years ago, maybe 1 out of every 10 NPCs would randomly stand on a chair once in a while. But I guess I just don’t understand super advanced subsumption AI development.

GyverMac posted:

A buddy of mine mentioned Star Citizen the other day, and that he thought it looked cool. I said its a total scam, but then I was lost for words as to how to explain it was a scam, its just so much wrong with this game.

EDIT:
How can i condense the trainwreck that is Star Citizen without going on a hour long tirade and sound like a madman?

colonelwest posted:

It’s been the in the game for years but somehow has gotten even worse. When I first played SC 2 years ago, maybe 1 out of every 10 NPCs would randomly stand on a chair once in a while. But I guess I just don’t understand super advanced subsumption AI development.

Spiderdrake posted:

I can't figure out how to make two diagonal lines into a butt or a bear so I'm not sure how to proceed

Dooguk posted:

When are they going to start using that Calder money for "advertising". You know, the 42 million they gave that seems to be laying in a drawer somewhere. Has anybody seen any advertising?

peter gabriel posted:

Quavers posted:

If SC ends failing, what will be saved?

Funny question I was thinking when watching a few videos showing 3.9 features.
Did CIG gave an idea of how much technology developped for SC could be salvaged for other projects in case the game flops?
I have no idea about the current quality in gaming, but when I see the insane graphics and models this alpha already have, I hope some parts of SC will end reused elsewhere in the future...
[EDIT] Ok, ok, I get it... What about if they succeed? I'm hoping this technology could still be used. I took the failure option as I don't see CIG sellling technology if they already have two games with a competitive advantage.

This "if the game flops" is so confusing to me... They've gathered far more money than needed to complete SC and S42, lots of people are already playing SC and likely more at the next major milestone or big update and so on...

'more money than they need'? What? You realise they they've had outgoing for the past 8 years too. I would imagine their cashflow is very tight, and if all funding stopped today there is no way they'd have enough money to finish either game let alone both.

Failure is not an option

ok, ok, added an edit

If Star Citizen flops, another gaming company will buy what current exists and turn it into a playable game. It would make no sense to let years and years of effort and preparation go to waste considering the money already invested. The details of how this unfolds can be worrying, especially since the company buying the remains is under no obligation towards the backers to honour the perks promised to them.

Quavers posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cQBYW4aQQk

Fwoderwick posted:

Now look, I can't bring myself to actively participate in this bear smuggling trainwreck but that doesn't mean I can let a Carter USM reference go by completely unremarked on here, a sub forum of the comedy website something awful dot com.

A powerful move, good work.

Inacio posted:

i will never not be completely puzzled at some of the ships though, like the 600i and the 890.
they're ugly. they're weird and fake inside. they're tacky and superficial. yet they're whalebait - and they work. whales drool over them















you can't honestly tell me this looks good.

now compare it to these much cheaper ships (some of which are ships for Poors):













what the gently caress is wrong with star citizen and its whales?

The Titanic posted:

The top ones look like Star Trek the next generation

Conversation with kiddos while playing last night posted:

I find the tram and enter with 5 seconds before it leaves and the lady says stand clear doors are closing.

Both my kids: whoa! what was that?

Me: That was a lady saying the doors are closing.

Door close and tram takes off... without me. I am now stuck in this limbo tram until the next one arrives. My daughter asks why it didn't move and I explain its a glitch, kind of like Vanellope from Ralph, it wasn't supposed it happen. New tram comes, same thing happens. I give up on going to the store and walk across to the tram for the spaceport. Tram takes off and kids are very impressed.

Son: How do you know where you are going?

Me: The tram only goes to one place.

Son: How do you know what place?

Me: It's taking me to the spaceport, so I can get on my ship.

I arrive, find a terminal, spawn my ship, take an elevator to the hanger, and get on. I go to my pilot seat and turn everything on, tell spaceport to open doors. Kids are ecstatic. Take off, switch to external view, retract landing gear, hit J to move the wings... lots of oooo's and aaaah's. I take off...

Daughter: Show us around your ship.

Me: Ok give me a sec.

Fly around the city for a minute. Stop, and try to exit my seat... nope. Hit J and still, nope. So I land on a building, and walk around. They are very amused by the toilet... lots of laughter.

Daughter: You have to go pee in this game, that's silly!

Daughter: Can you go into space?

Me: Yup, lets do it!

I take off and start heading to space.

Daughter: Are you moving?

Me: It doesnt look like it right. But all you can see is the stars, you have no perspective right now, no reference point.

I move the camera so she can see the ground and have a reference. Now she sees that we are moving.

Daughter: You are moving very slow.

I show them my speed indicator.

Me: This is how fast I am moving right now, and when I get into space I will be moving even faster.

I get into space, and my speed is maxed.

Daughter: It doesn't look like you are moving at all.

Me: Again, no perspective. I am moving as fast as my ship will go without going into quantum speed.

Son: What is that?

Me: I will show you.

Spool and launch...... 30k

OK, lets go watch some Star Wars!

Kiddos: Yaaaay!

Agony Aunt posted:

Thanks. Always nice to meet another person who appreciates the work of those urban poets.

Saw them at the Guild Hall in Preston.

Fruitbat gave me the middle finger while on stage while i was shouting "you fat bastard" at the top of my lungs.

Best night of my life.

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

"dude, sit down. the experts are talking and you're not one of them"

Oh, that Kazan...

He always manages to strike that perfect balance of wrong and condescendingly wrong.

Never change buddy.

Asmodai_00 posted:

colonelwest posted:

It’s been the in the game for years but somehow has gotten even worse. When I first played SC 2 years ago, maybe 1 out of every 10 NPCs would randomly stand on a chair once in a while. But I guess I just don’t understand super advanced subsumption AI development.

Agony Aunt posted:

Thanks. Always nice to meet another person who appreciates the work of those urban poets.

Saw them at the Guild Hall in Preston.

Fruitbat gave me the middle finger while on stage while i was shouting "you fat bastard" at the top of my lungs.

Best night of my life.

Kosumo posted:

If anyone can nail toilet gameplay it will been CIG - they have been producing all kind of poo poo for years now.

Asmodai_00 posted:

Viscous Soda posted:

Threw that into Google and got so many LOL worthy articles from the past. My favorite so far:

https://www.thelonegamers.com/2015/07/13/you-are-wrong-if-you-think-star-citizens-development-is-behind-schedule/

Quavers posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iPtIM0P0Q8

Best Bi Geek Squid posted:

Toilets. Are we actually gonna have a pee and poo bar in the hud?

And how will a full bladder effect the player? What happens if i can´t get hold of a toilet? I guess a quick space pee will end in crimestat.

So many questions.

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While I don't have any actual information on this through CIG, I have played just about every survival game out there so I can probably give a solid idea of how it could work.

Currently, the game that handles this the best, in my opinion, is Scum. To be honest I wish SC had a whole metabolism system similar to Scum. Before you all chew off my head for saying that, let me explain.

In Scum there is a full metabolism system. This covers everything from diet all the way to exercise. Literally, everything that's already present on Microtech. As a player, you could eat anything you find and in a zombie apocalypse, you eat what you can get whether that be a box of chocolate or a big rear end raw pumpkin. Every item that you can consume has stats that influence calories and these calories are broken down even further. So you have your sugar intake, H2o, sodium intake, etc, etc. This means if you ate nothing but chocolate your sugar intake would be through the roof. That, in turn, causes something like a sugar crash where you get a big boost in energy, and then it's all gone. Much the same, if you kept that diet up your character, would gain weight and their stats would be reduced respectively. This is something that I feel needs to be in SC. If we have all these good options and they're going for realism it's kinda required, especially if they want us to actually take our time with this.

Carrying on this eventually leads to needing to defecate and urinate. This could be done in a number of ways. Bad food could lead to the runs which would put you on a sudden timer you have no knowledge of. A secondary outcome could be you ate too many mushrooms and your fiber is through the roof and you need to pinch off a brick. Or you could be a balanced person and overall be able to time things out properly with hours to spare.

The simplest way CIG could add this is simply put it as a release to food. If food goes in it has to go out. This would most likely be 2-4x that of the hunger meter. Meaning you would likely have to poo poo once every 4-8 hours of REAL time. At that rate you would just do it like you would before going on a long trip in real life You have a 2-4 hour drive you better male sure you use the bathroom. The same would apply here if we don't get a dedicated meter or timer. making GBS threads your pants is an interesting concept. In Scum you don't even do this, you just stop and pop a squat where you are, no toilet necessary. It's degrading and you are totally open for anyone to shoot you while you do this.

I honestly think it'll just be a meter and if you let it run out your dude will poo poo in his suit. Granted no one would care since it's a game, but it's likely CIG will make it so that suit is probably ruined or shop keepers or security would keep you out of populated areas due to smell

Asmodai_00 posted:

Basic modeling, basic texturing, basic animations – all stuff the full-time studio CIG has now could knock out in 1-2 weeks.

A overly optimistic commando posted:

So to the haters, keep on hating but be prepared to put your foot in your mouth around January 2016 or maybe sooner.