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STAC Goat posted:I mean, that's your view of EoE. That doesn't mean its the jury's.
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May 14, 2020 03:23
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Letting Tony get this hero's speech from Sarah in front of the jury. Putting Cops'r'Us against each other guaranteed one would do it for the other.
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May 14, 2020 03:23
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That legitimately made me tear up at the end
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May 14, 2020 03:23
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That display was the nail in the coffin WE THINK
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May 14, 2020 03:24
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16-0-0 baybeeeee
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:Nat shows up dismantled them with minimal effort. If by minimal effort you mean an overabundance of gimmicks instead of any strategy whatsoever, then yeah ok, minimal effort. Stokes fucked around with this message at 03:26 on May 14, 2020 |
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May 14, 2020 03:24
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I feel like people got REAL mad at Nat as the idea of her winning felt more and more possible tonight. Hindsight being 20/20 I'm sure she'd put Michelle in there. But like, Sarah nearly smoked Tony. Firemaking challenges are screwy.
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May 14, 2020 03:24
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Fast Luck posted:I think Chris Underwood winning was a combination of Gavin and Julie being underwhelming and him going king mode the whole end game. He survived a vote, and he took out Devins himself. Nat never survived a vote and sat out fire. I don’t think my view of EoE necessarily clashes at all with any jury’s! She also misplayed her second idol and Michelle only got saved by the grace of Ben trying to give Sarah some more ammo at FTC
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May 14, 2020 03:25
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Man, nobody thought Tony had a chance of winning at the beginning of this season. He was at DOA as Rob was in most people's minds
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May 14, 2020 03:25
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If I was Purple Kelly or anyone who has ever gotten an unfavorable edit due to not being able to hack it out there, I think I'd be really annoyed that Ben was given a good edit for that sacrifice.
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May 14, 2020 03:25
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if Tony loses from here I'm never watching this show again lol
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May 14, 2020 03:25
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I'm not mad at Nat, she didn't create EoE She's a challenge MONSTER but stepped all over her own dick in basically every strategic decision all season
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May 14, 2020 03:26
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Nat should’ve used the idol on Michelle and gotten Sarah out. That’s where all of this fell apart. If you’re at that five with a HII you need to be smart enough to realize your only real shot at winning is to sit with Michelle and Ben.
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May 14, 2020 03:26
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JesusSinfulHands posted:Man, nobody thought Tony had a chance of winning at the beginning of this season. He was at DOA as Rob was in most people's minds They key difference: Tony knew he was a target and changed his game so he could get far enough to go chaos mode Rob tried the same Robfather strategy and got voted out before the merge for it
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May 14, 2020 03:27
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IcePhoenix posted:She also misplayed her second idol and Michelle only got saved by the grace of Ben trying to give Sarah some more ammo at FTC I really don't get this. What should she have done with the idol? Why was Michelle critical to her game? Maybe Ben wins that F4 challenge but like that doesn't seem like any kind of clear mismove to me besides the generic idea that you shouldn't tell people you have an idol.
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May 14, 2020 03:27
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Brock Samson posted:Letting Tony get this hero's speech from Sarah in front of the jury. Putting Cops'r'Us against each other guaranteed one would do it for the other. The other matchups don't seem much better. Michele wins fire and caps another quiet season of somehow never catching votes. Maybe if Michele loses you get Sarah and Tony splitting votes? Maybe?
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May 14, 2020 03:28
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https://twitter.com/robcesternino/status/1260757662087540736
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May 14, 2020 03:28
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Going to predict some jury votes real quick Tony: Sarah, Ben, Denise, Nick, Jeremy, Kim, Sophie, Tyson, Adam, Wendell, Yul, Rob, Ethan, Danni, Amber Natalie: Parvati Michele: Yes I'm serious. I think it's a total blowout. Feel free to quote me if I'm totally wrong
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May 14, 2020 03:29
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STAC Goat posted:I really don't get this. What should she have done with the idol? Why was Michelle critical to her game? Maybe Ben wins that F4 challenge but like that doesn't seem like any kind of clear mismove to me besides the generic idea that you shouldn't tell people you have an idol. There are five people left, there’s a final three, two of them you have almost no chance of beating. Why would you keep both of them and guarantee one of the two people you have the least chance of beating remains. Yea, you risk going home but not taking that risk virtually assures you lose the game.
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May 14, 2020 03:29
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May 14, 2020 03:29
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sportsgenius86 posted:Nat should’ve used the idol on Michelle and gotten Sarah out. That’s where all of this fell apart. I really can't imagine gambling that hard on an idol read. No one thought Sarah was a big winner 3 hours ago. If Nat made a mistake it was probably lighting a fire under Sarah to play the jury. She hoped it would fire up Sarah to make a move but it kind of backfired. Or could have if Sarah had won the fire challenge.
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May 14, 2020 03:30
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STAC Goat posted:I really don't get this. What should she have done with the idol? Why was Michelle critical to her game? Maybe Ben wins that F4 challenge but like that doesn't seem like any kind of clear mismove to me besides the generic idea that you shouldn't tell people you have an idol. I don't think she necessarily made the wrong move. But the problem is she needs as much resume building as possible in the last three days of the game so missing on that hurts her a lot
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May 14, 2020 03:30
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STAC Goat posted:I really can't imagine gambling that hard on an idol read. She sat out like the entire game. You have to show some kind of brass balls or be content playing for second or third.
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May 14, 2020 03:31
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sportsgenius86 posted:Nat should’ve used the idol on Michelle and gotten Sarah out. That’s where all of this fell apart. Nat played an idol on herself when she received 0 votes Nat didn’t put herself into fire Two times she put self-preservation ahead of game when self-preservation was not what she needed to focus on at all, because it’s not enough in her position.
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May 14, 2020 03:31
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It was a tough spot If Tony lost, he AND Ben would be lobbying the jury for Sarah
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May 14, 2020 03:31
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"Sat out" by kicking rear end alongside the jury-to-be. I don't think the people who spent 1-30 days on edge will consider edge "sitting out". Could be wrong though.
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May 14, 2020 03:32
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IcePhoenix posted:I don't think she necessarily made the wrong move. But the problem is she needs as much resume building as possible in the last three days of the game so missing on that hurts her a lot I don't think she really does. You can't forget that almost everyone on that jury has lived and survived with Nat for the entire game... also Nat played the fire token part of the game.
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May 14, 2020 03:32
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Lone Goat posted:if Tony loses from here I'm never watching this show again lol Michelle has a legit claim to this game, honestly I think she deserve it more than Tony. It would be surprising if she pulls out the story of a lifetime for tribal here, there is one to be made, but I don't think she will.
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May 14, 2020 03:32
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pokeyman posted:"Sat out" by kicking rear end alongside the jury-to-be. I don't think the people who spent 1-30 days on edge will consider edge "sitting out". She also got a really astounding number of tokens at the end of the day.
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May 14, 2020 03:33
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May 14, 2020 03:33
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sportsgenius86 posted:There are five people left, there’s a final three, two of them you have almost no chance of beating. Why would you keep both of them and guarantee one of the two people you have the least chance of beating remains. I just don't agree. I mean, maybe Nat is drawing dead against the jury because they want a "legitimate" winner or something. I don't know. But her sell is that she busted her rear end and then won a couple of challenges and found an idol to get there. Like we're ignoring that she found an idol to save herself at F5. If the jury is dead set against the EoE winner I don't see a couple of flashy moves changing that against Tony. I mean, who knows? But I feel like people are projecting their own frustrations with EoE on the Jury. And maybe they share them. But we really don't know. And either way she was never beating Tony unless we're all hugely wrong.
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May 14, 2020 03:34
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STAC Goat posted:No one thought Sarah was a big winner 3 hours ago.
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May 14, 2020 03:35
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STAC Goat posted:I just don't agree. I mean, maybe Nat is drawing dead against the jury because they want a "legitimate" winner or something. I don't know. But her sell is that she busted her rear end and then won a couple of challenges and found an idol to get there. Like we're ignoring that she found an idol to save herself at F5. If the jury is dead set against the EoE winner I don't see a couple of flashy moves changing that against Tony. She had so many tokens she could've bought an idol to use anyway. Did she find that idol before or after being voted off, i forgot
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May 14, 2020 03:36
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Michelle getting ignored doesn't bode well
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May 14, 2020 03:36
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Don't do this jeremy!!!
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May 14, 2020 03:36
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Fast Luck posted:I mean, this thread all did say she was playing a great game and would be a good winner for the last week. I think we were saying she hadn't done anything wrong but not that she was in a position to win. She did a good job working the jury tonight and finally made a move separate from Tony. So I think that changed the math a bit, especially in the hypothetical where she knocked out Tony.
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May 14, 2020 03:37
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Khanstant posted:She had so many tokens she could've bought an idol to use anyway. Did she find that idol before or after being voted off, i forgot She bought the idol she used at F6. She found the one she played at F5.
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May 14, 2020 03:38
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STAC Goat posted:I just don't agree. I mean, maybe Nat is drawing dead against the jury because they want a "legitimate" winner or something. I don't know. But her sell is that she busted her rear end and then won a couple of challenges and found an idol to get there. Like we're ignoring that she found an idol to save herself at F5. If the jury is dead set against the EoE winner I don't see a couple of flashy moves changing that against Tony. EOE isn’t easy by any means. And she absolutely earned those fire tokens. But it’s also a totally different game than being vulnerable to go home every 3 days and constantly having to battle and strategize and I think it’s naive to expect that everyone else wouldn’t see the same thing.
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Rob's smile He's been a death mask since the returnee challenge Tony impressed a LOT of the jury
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