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euphronius posted:Nate says these are good numbers and good news btw arent the numbers going down because they're no longer reporting them as thoroughly?
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Atrocious Joe posted:https://twitter.com/HouseGOP/status/1261298800435568642?s=20 there's also the thing about the "rapid test" not working half the time and still being widely used, and apparently the numbers are a week or two old when they get released
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Malcolm XML posted:That thing has a 80% NPV and 98% PPV, (positive=survival, negative=death), so IMO it's only useful as a tool to determine if you're not gonna die Ok let's look at it another way How do you improve those 3 markers? Marker 1: Lactic Dehydrogenase quote:The increase of LDH reflects tissue/cell destruction and is regarded as a common sign of tissue/cell damage. https://www.healthline.com/health/lactate-dehydrogenase-test quote:Large amounts of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) may lower LDH levels. Alcohol, anesthetics, aspirin, narcotics, and procainamide may raise LDH levels. Strenuous exercise may also raise LDH levels Marker 2: Lymphocyte quote:Lymphopenia is a common feature in patients with COVID-19 and might be a critical factor associated with disease severity and mortality. https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/node/4088 quote:In general, lymphocytopenia (a low lymphocyte count) occurs because: Marker 3: High-Sensitivity C-Reactive Protein quote:The increase of hs-CRP, an important marker for poor prognosis in acute respiratory distress syndrome, reflects a persistent state of inflammation. The result of this persistent inflammatory response is large grey-white lesions in the lungs of patients with COVID-19 (seen in autopsy). https://labtestsonline.org/tests/high-sensitivity-c-reactive-protein-hs-crp quote:Taking nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs, e.g., aspirin, ibuprofen, and naproxen) or statins may reduce CRP levels in blood. Both anti-inflammatory drugs and statins may help to reduce inflammation, thus reducing CRP.
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:arent the numbers going down because they're no longer reporting them as thoroughly? Seriously, how does anyone not understand this? Trump and friends decided that they can't stop the virus anymore, so they switched over to trying to fool the public into thinking it's not as bad as it really is which means fudged numbers everywhere.
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HugeGrossBurrito posted:lol a guy who would post that the virus is liberal bullshit on every single one of a nurse friends posts on Facebook’s wife just had to go to the hospital for covid and he is screaming about calling the police for harassment because we screenshotted his now deleted posts about how anyone who gets this is weak and survival of the fittest and posted them in response to his asking for prayers.
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So stock up on Vitamin C, Ibuprofen and Naproxen I guess - aspirin is bad for LDH
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TMMadman posted:Seriously, how does anyone not understand this? Trump and friends decided that they can't stop the virus anymore, so they switched over to trying to fool the public into thinking it's not as bad as it really is which means fudged numbers everywhere. If journalism in this country still had any integrity, they would be tracking hospital admissions rather than official test rates.
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1.5 million cases holy gently caress
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fosborb posted:mein fever and dry cough sick heil
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Inceltown posted:sick heil
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MorrisBae posted:Marker 3: High-Sensitivity C-Reactive Protein I can't remember the study off the top of my head, but some hazard ratio analysis was also showing statins significantly improving outcomes. Are there bad side effects of regularly taking naproxen?
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Mr Hootington posted:Shut the thread. Covid is done. Thank you trump
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:I can't remember the study off the top of my head, but some hazard ratio analysis was also showing statins significantly improving outcomes. Eats your stomach lining like aspirin and ibuprofen
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Starks posted:I’m having trouble even parsing this post let alone figuring which part is ironic (Brazil has 200 million people) so I’ll just chime in to say that Amazonas is already in dire straits and will soon be a humanitarian catastrophe: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/brazil-coronavirus-bolsonaro-1.5550341 the point of my post was not that Brazil is small. I know brazil is huge and the death number is small in comparison. It's all out of context data to sell a macabre story about stacking bodies as if that's even rare in the first world during normal times. The out of context numbers are not very helpful especially if I'm not well versed on the statistics of the country at hand hence the 'i love this kind of reporting' my comments about standards was that countries are all vastly underestimating Total Death Counts. It would be helpful, for comparisons sake, if they all under counted using the same most efficient method. Should of spelled it out better. sorry for the confusion. I post in c-spam so of course i'm not coherent That story does not share good news. pigz has issued a correction as of 00:10 on May 16, 2020 |
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MorrisBae posted:Eats your stomach lining like aspirin and ibuprofen RIP. Looks like exercise and a decrease in BMI also reduce CRP significantly so that's the way to go. Low intensity fat burning cardio is probably extremely good at improving your resiliency to covid given these factors.
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euphronius posted:1.5 million cases holy gently caress It's basic Math! Getting 20k to 30k cases each days means 600k to 900k total cases each month.
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I had no idea that a few months of poor sales (and not at a peak time of the year I assume) was all that stood between a company like JCPenney and bankruptcy. Edit: I guess JCPenney itself was limping to begin with though. Samurai Sanders has issued a correction as of 00:21 on May 16, 2020 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:I had no idea that a few months of poor sales (and not at a peak time of the year I assume) was all that stood between a company like JCPenney and bankruptcy. They have been limping along for the past few years so its not surprising the covid stressors got them.
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Zil posted:They have been limping along for the past few years so its not surprising the covid stressors got them. it was, as they say in the biz, immunocompromised
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snoo posted:why do I keep reading the comments Dunno about in the US, but here you get tested for the flu as well as covid if you have flu-like symptoms. Flu cases are down dramatically because social distancing and frequent handwashing lessen the spread of many viruses. They also rolled out flu vaccine a few weeks early because of covid and there was a much larger uptake than normal.
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Lolie posted:Dunno about in the US, but here you get tested for the flu as well as covid if you have flu-like symptoms. Flu cases are down dramatically because social distancing and frequent handwashing lessen the spread of many viruses. They also rolled out flu vaccine a few weeks early because of covid and there was a much larger uptake than normal. Cool that means it can take off when we go back into public. Maybe we can have two different flu seasons happening at the same time.
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MorrisBae posted:Ok let's look at it another way Biomarkers often don't have utility for therapeutic targeting. These are like the tracks left behind from the covid tiger that inform you of the dire situation. You can try filling in the tracks, but the tiger that's nearby can still eat you. LDH is a leakage enzyme, so altering the small amount of natural extracellular levels won't change the infection destroying cells and releasing large amounts. Lymphocytes are being consumed from the infection, so low levels likely mean they're dying in the covid wars. CRP is one of many inflammatory proteins, so targeting it by itself won't do much. Inflammation causes a lot of collateral damage, so keeping it under control while allowing it to clear the virus is a fine line to walk. Bats carry lots of viruses because they tolerate their presence and don't run an effective immune response against them.
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Zil posted:They have been limping along for the past few years so its not surprising the covid stressors got them. yeah they're definitely part of that "mall anchor" group of big box retailers that couldn't make a pivot to something sustainable as malls have been dying or being replaced by strip malls this now means that, of all the anchors in the mall I grew up going to, Target is the only company of the 4 still operating
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Samurai Sanders posted:I had no idea that a few months of poor sales (and not at a peak time of the year I assume) was all that stood between a company like JCPenney and bankruptcy.
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Azathoth posted:yeah they're definitely part of that "mall anchor" group of big box retailers that couldn't make a pivot to something sustainable as malls have been dying or being replaced by strip malls macys?
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Samurai Sanders posted:I had no idea that a few months of poor sales (and not at a peak time of the year I assume) was all that stood between a company like JCPenney and bankruptcy. they got VCd. Covid was just an excuse, like Amazon Christmas sales for toys r us and helium shortages for Party City (  snoo)
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fosborb posted:they got VCd. Covid was just an excuse, like Amazon Christmas sales for toys r us and helium shortages for Party City ( yep, retail is doing fine right, like millennials arent killing "stores" even tho they should be
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Gringostar posted:macys? Hah, I looked and I was wrong, apparently Sears is technically still operating a few stores (though the one in the mall I went to has closed), but no Macys, none of that fancy poo poo. We had a Target, a JC Penneys, a Sears, and a Herbergers.
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