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Anson as pike was the only good thing to come out of s2 Discovery. But I have little faith in the writing crew seeing what we got in Picard. I just don't think that Trek works in a serialized format. It narrows the world down and ruins character development. The short seasons don't help anything either. You can't build on character relations or world building with 10 episodes. TNG DS9 etc had what 20+ episodes a season? And yes I know DS9 started going in a semi serialized production but it still had individual episodes which helped world building and character development. And aside from what I've mentioned above but the writing in discovery and Picard is so lazy and weak. There's hardly any stakes and everything gets neatly resolved with flimsy explanations. The torpedo in the enterprise hull has to be the worse writing I've ever seen. No mention of giving the admiral a space suit or transporter beam out before the torpedo activates. And somehow a glass door provides enough protection as pike watches... Hell even if the transporter won't work etc at least mention they're offline or something. Blinkz fucked around with this message at 17:50 on May 15, 2020 |
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Tighclops posted:When I saw that he and some other Disco writer were working on a Foundation tv series my heart sank Oh... Thanks but nah, guys
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May 15, 2020 18:06
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Thom12255 posted:I know Anson has got to be thrilled about this but lol he's really subdued in this. "I can't wait to put on that gold uniform and deliver number one" Come on Rebecca now you are just loving with us.
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May 15, 2020 19:09
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Well CBS is now 0/2 in making Star Trek that is passably acceptable so im guessing this new show with all the same bad producers will also suck.
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May 15, 2020 21:16
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These shows would be significantly improved if they weren't writing episodes during shooting, which apparently happened at times
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May 15, 2020 21:23
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it would be best if they weren't writing episodes while shooting, and also while not shooting.
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May 15, 2020 22:28
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It would be best if anyone else was writing the episodes, and maybe one sole person that had a vision was in charge of Trek. Even if it was a bad vision, it would at least be consistent.
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May 15, 2020 22:48
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What's the expected plan for season 2 of Picard? They brought the Borg down to the synths for no reason this season so that must have something to do with it? Raffi literally had nothing to her story except table dressing and something about owing everything to Picard despite the fact Picard has done literally nothing for her. Magic tool exists for no reason despite the fact the synths are going to try and betray them. What a loving fart.
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The Adventures of Robo Jean-Luc Across the Eighth Dimension
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May 15, 2020 23:02
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Picard is the next doctor.
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These shows would be vastly better if they weren’t shooting ... is what I think you guys meant to write
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Spacebump posted:Please be an episodic show. Also please lean into the 60s aesthetic. I hope they straight up use the TOS theme like how the TMP theme was recycled for TNG and V.
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May 16, 2020 00:46
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Astroman posted:Also please lean into the 60s aesthetic. I hope they straight up use the TOS theme like how the TMP theme was recycled for TNG and V. I'm still holding out hope that we'll get to see the USS Constellation arrive, accompanied by a bright, rear end-kicking rendition of its sad-sounding leitmotif from The Doomsday Machine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8jZbAhF3nE&t=25s
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May 16, 2020 01:14
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You’ve all been clamoring for a Pike series to happen ever since Mount showed up in Disco, and now it’s happening and you’re falling over yourselves to poo poo on it, lmao gently caress it, I’m pumped. Literally can’t be worse than the worst parts of Disco and Picard since we already know the lead trio is excellent.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:You’ve all been clamoring for a Pike series to happen ever since Mount showed up in Disco, and now it’s happening and you’re falling over yourselves to poo poo on it, lmao https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkey%27s_Paw
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Big Mean Jerk posted:You’ve all been clamoring for a Pike series to happen ever since Mount showed up in Disco, and now it’s happening and you’re falling over yourselves to poo poo on it, lmao Can't you just enjoy something?
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Mal-3 posted:Y'know, as long as it isn't killer robots I think I can live with that? I don't know who in the production office has such a hard-on for killer robots but I'm just tired of it. Enough, already! There are more ancient bad things in the galaxy than just "ooh, scary AIs" for gently caress's sake! Nah the universe ending threat this time will definitely be contagion.
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May 16, 2020 02:24
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They should fight Dracula. The actual Dracula, not some bogus alien dupe Dracula.
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May 16, 2020 02:28
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Gonz posted:They should fight Dracula. The actual Dracula, not some bogus alien dupe Dracula. And Dominic Purcell should play him.
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8one6 posted:And Dominic Purcell should play him. Wentworth Miller plays Alucard and allies himself with the Disco crew.
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Powered Descent posted:I'm still holding out hope that we'll get to see the USS Constellation arrive, accompanied by a bright, rear end-kicking rendition of its sad-sounding leitmotif from The Doomsday Machine. This should absolutely happen. Hell, pick a good actor and make Captain (later Commodore) Decker a recurring guest. Jeffrey Combs of course of course. Hell, they gave us what we want once already.
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The cast could be a screeching mob of barely sentient pigmen and it wouldn't give me quite the sinking feeling as seeing the same roster of key creatives, who have failed upwards their whole careers, again back in charge. Cast don't really matter. They're successful working actors, there's a baseline of competence in that field at least. Sorry to sound pessimistic, but I just can't muster any enthusiasm for another Goldsman and Kurtzman outing.
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Lizard Combatant posted:The cast could be a screeching mob of barely sentient pigmen But enough about Neelix Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 03:41 on May 16, 2020 |
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Did somebody say The Doomsday Machine? My favourite TOS episode? <——— Powered Descent posted:I'm still holding out hope that we'll get to see the USS Constellation arrive, accompanied by a bright, rear end-kicking rendition of its sad-sounding leitmotif from The Doomsday Machine.
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I guess, if I were trying to be optimistic, it would be a good sign that this idea and this show came up organically because of what actually worked on-screen, as opposed to some idea Kurtzman had that they threw money at. If I were trying to be optimistic.
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And if I were human, I believe my response would be, "Go to hell." If I were human.
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CPColin posted:And if I were human, I believe my response would be, "Go to hell."  , I think.
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Lizard Combatant posted:The cast could be a screeching mob of barely sentient pigmen and it wouldn't give me quite the sinking feeling as seeing the same roster of key creatives, who have failed upwards their whole careers, again back in charge. Pretty much this
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mllaneza posted:This should absolutely happen. Hell, pick a good actor and make Captain (later Commodore) Decker a recurring guest. Jeffrey Combs of course of course. Hell, they gave us what we want once already. I've said this before, but the opportunities to bring back TOS era characters and explore them are big. Every admiral and captain on TOS could show up younger. So we could see Decker, Ron Tracey, Mendez, Garth of Izar. Same for movies--Morrow, Terrell, the unseen Nogura. Because of the merger, anyone from the JJ movies is available-like an alternate, not as bad Admiral Marcus could be played by Peter Weller and he can direct too. Robert and Sarah April from TAS would work. T'Pol from Enterprise should be alive, maybe even Shran-how long do Andorians live? Plus USS Enterprise crewmembers like Boyce or Piper as the CMO would be logical. Scotty is fair game too--he's established as older than Kirk and in beta canon he was always on the Enterprise pre-Kirk.
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Lizard Combatant posted:The cast could be a screeching mob of barely sentient pigmen and it wouldn't give me quite the sinking feeling as seeing the same roster of key creatives, who have failed upwards their whole careers, again back in charge.
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You’ve been clamoring for reunification to happen ever since you showed up on Romulus, and now it’s happening and you’re falling over yourself to poo poo on it, lmao \ 
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Payndz posted:I've been of the firm opinion that Akiva Goldsman is a terrible, terrible writer since the frickin' Nineties, and nothing with his name on it that I've seen has ever been any good. Yet somehow he keeps getting high-profile, highly-paid work in Hollywood. It's one of those things that makes me question reality in a "What? But... just... what?" way, because clearly other people have a very different perception of it than me. Hey, John Logan keeps getting work. poo poo is weird.
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Payndz posted:I've been of the firm opinion that Akiva Goldsman is a terrible, terrible writer since the frickin' Nineties, and nothing with his name on it that I've seen has ever been any good. Yet somehow he keeps getting high-profile, highly-paid work in Hollywood. Yeah, ever since I've been into film discussion as a teenager Goldsman has been a widely accepted hack and the savvy have known that him getting attached to a project is a death knell for its quality. But unfortunately for us, people are successful in Hollywood if they're easy to work with, deliver on time and under budget, don't push back on executive notes, and ultimately make profitable content. Quality of end product isn't really a factor—Hollywood is a business first and foremost. One could argue that they have to be careful about damaging the brand long-term, but Trek fans have shown themselves to roll with the punches well at pretty much every turn. They're still in charge of Trek because fans are paying for CBS All Access and talking passionately about Star Trek on social media. They'll only care that you don't like it when you stop engaging. And if you're posting in this thread, well... feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 16:51 on May 16, 2020 |
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The only way to save Star Trek is not to watch Star Trek?
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Ah yes the famed Tighclops Maneuver
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*rubberbands into a flash of light right the gently caress in front of youuuu* can't blame me or anybody for straight up giving up at this pointfeedmyleg posted:Yeah, ever since I've been into film discussion as a teenager Goldsman has been a widely accepted hack and the savvy have known that him getting attached to a project is a death knell for its quality. But unfortunately for us, people are successful in Hollywood if they're easy to work with, deliver on time and under budget, don't push back on executive notes, and ultimately make profitable content. My theory: the dude seems to have made a career attaching himself like an eel to the underside of big projects that use existing, known properties. That way they make a ton of money regardless of quality and he looks like a genius storyteller or something.
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Timby posted:Hey, John Logan keeps getting work. poo poo is weird. 
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Astroman posted:I've said this before, but the opportunities to bring back TOS era characters and explore them are big. Every admiral and captain on TOS could show up younger. So we could see Decker, Ron Tracey, Mendez, Garth of Izar. Same for movies--Morrow, Terrell, the unseen Nogura. Because of the merger, anyone from the JJ movies is available-like an alternate, not as bad Admiral Marcus could be played by Peter Weller and he can direct too. Robert and Sarah April from TAS would work. T'Pol from Enterprise should be alive, maybe even Shran-how long do Andorians live? Plus USS Enterprise crewmembers like Boyce or Piper as the CMO would be logical. Scotty is fair game too--he's established as older than Kirk and in beta canon he was always on the Enterprise pre-Kirk. Here's what's going to happen. Scotty will be introduced on the ship, probably as a starting main character since he was hinted at in Discovery. Early season 2, Lt. Kirk is going to show up as a frat boy lothario who hits on Number One and probably bangs a minor character who hasn't been cast yet. He then learns responsibility from Pike. By the end of season 2, every TOS main character will have shown up for an episode or more, even teenage Chekhov somehow. Then a new spinoff is announced: Star Trek: Year Four, which is about the 4th year of the five year mission with the original crew, all recasted. We'll also get updates on what happened to all the Pike-era crew throughout that show, and at least one joins the Kirk crew but somehow doesn't look years older.
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