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Atrocious Joe posted:I haven't read the novel it's based on, but I have some reservations about that John Brown series that feels like a comedy
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Some Guy TT posted:theres an extremely good chance theyre going with crazy john brown whos got some growing up to do because free state of jones starred matthew mcconaughey fairly straightforwardly portrayed the title character as a white dude who realizes that slavery and racism is bullshit and was either panned for being too boring or too racist because you see this actual historical person who led a counterinsurgency against the confederacy only to see it all collapse when the north wins the war and gives the rich assholes back their plantations is actually just an extremely problematic white savior I get the feeling that there are some white people who love the backlash against the white savior thing because it gives them an excuse to sit around and not do anything.
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Peanut President posted:that feels like a comedy i read up on the book its based on and apparently it is supposed to be a comedy part of what makes this so jarring is that theres a huge literary tradition about john brown that stretches all the way back to w e du bois thats typically discussed john brown in terms of his theological convictions making him out to be in anachronistic parlance a dude who spent his life slowly being blackpilled with the raid on harpers ferry basically being him going to loving hell with it if i dont do it no one else will but apparently in 2013 some guy wrote a slapstick novel where john brown gets into barfights and goes on wacky forrest gump style adventures with an escaped slave who he forces to crossdress a story that was somehow so well received in literary circles its now going to become a tv show that will probably become the permanent pop culture image for john brown going forward 22 Eargesplitten posted:I get the feeling that there are some white people who love the backlash against the white savior thing because it gives them an excuse to sit around and not do anything. thats absolutely whats going on and its loving enraging because apparently any white person taking a selfless interest in race issues is a white savior now this started out as a legitimate critique thats been so horribly warped and twisted its straight up regressive even lincoln dipped into this with the frankly disgusting closing scene which suggests that the only character in the movie with genuine moral conviction only had strong opinions about slavery because he was loving his black housekeeper Some Guy TT has issued a correction as of 07:00 on May 16, 2020 |
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Some Guy TT posted:theres an extremely good chance theyre going with crazy john brown whos got some growing up to do because free state of jones starred matthew mcconaughey fairly straightforwardly portrayed the title character as a white dude who realizes that slavery and racism is bullshit and was either panned for being too boring or too racist because you see this actual historical person who led a counterinsurgency against the confederacy only to see it all collapse when the north wins the war and gives the rich assholes back their plantations is actually just an extremely problematic white savior I liked that movie.
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Some Guy TT posted:i read up on the book its based on and apparently it is supposed to be a comedy part of what makes this so jarring is that theres a huge literary tradition about john brown that stretches all the way back to w e du bois thats typically discussed john brown in terms of his theological convictions making him out to be in anachronistic parlance a dude who spent his life slowly being blackpilled with the raid on harpers ferry basically being him going to loving hell with it if i dont do it no one else will jesus christ
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Granted, I'm still waiting a Haitian Revolution movie or miniseries. Also, a Nat Turner movie not directed by and starring a rapist. Echo Chamber has issued a correction as of 08:49 on May 16, 2020 |
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It's disturbing to me that after multiple classes covering the Civil War I never heard of Newton Knight. Almost like even in the 2000s school curricula were influenced by post-reconstruction attempts to rehabilitate the Confederacy, even if the "lost cause" idea was out of fashion by then.
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p funny to see people in the replies discover wonder showzen in 2020 https://twitter.com/hoseoksparkles/status/1261474190470905856
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:p funny to see people in the replies discover wonder showzen in 2020 Wonder Showzen is going to be as historical as Blazing Saddles where it's going to have insufferable people say they can't do humor like that anymore when it's more about the structure and execution. They both kick rear end, though.
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DesertIslandHermit posted:Wonder Showzen is going to be as historical as Blazing Saddles where it's going to have insufferable people say they can't do humor like that anymore when it's more about the structure and execution. will blow people their minds to learn this is from the same show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmyF-DBIq2I
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Wraith of J.O.I. posted:p funny to see people in the replies discover wonder showzen in 2020 I love wondershowzen when it used to come on mtv2 i would get high with this guy in my building and watch it we would just be getting high and watching wondershowzen a different time and just lol that the end of that sketch is a kid going "  ohh I get it your racism is ironic"
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Totally forgot Vernon Chatman also made The Heart, She Holler and very surprised that got two more seasons.
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Zerilan posted:Totally forgot Vernon Chatman also made The Heart, She Holler and very surprised that got two more seasons. I loved Xavier Renegade Angel and even that got a second season So in the MST3K reboot how come crow and servo are back did they get captured or something
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Zerilan posted:Totally forgot Vernon Chatman also made The Heart, She Holler and very surprised that got two more seasons. Isn't he also behind the Shimmering Truth, which is a claymation version of the Outer Limits? Speaking of Adult Swim shows that get renewed, 12oz mouse looked like it was made on a $20 budget and it got two seasons.
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Whoever said Community is not good after season 3 is missing out on moments like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvzE64A28NI
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Serf posted:deleted now but lol That looks like its Michael Biehn
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I'm never watching this but it will haunt me quote:The Great is a satirical, comedic drama about the rise of Catherine the Great from outsider to the longest reigning female ruler in Russia's history. A fictionalized, fun and anachronistic story of an idealistic, romantic young girl, who arrives in Russia for an arranged marriage to the mercurial Emperor Peter. Hoping for love and sunshine, she finds instead a dangerous, depraved, backward world that she resolves to change. All she has to do is kill her husband, beat the church, baffle the military and get the court onside. A very modern story about the past which encompasses the many roles she played over her lifetime as lover, teacher, ruler, friend, and fighter. Incorporating historical facts occasionally, the series stars Elle Fanning as Catherine, Nicholas Hoult, Phoebe Fox, Adam Godley, Gwilym Lee, Charity Wakefield, Douglas Hodge, Sacha Dhawan, Sebastian de Souza, Bayo Gbadamosi and Belinda Bromilow.
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vyelkin posted:Whoever said Community is not good after season 3 is missing out on moments like this: Lol at britta just barely avoiding the laugh there
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Serf posted:deleted now but lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJrxxnBWPdI
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vyelkin posted:Whoever said Community is not good after season 3 is missing out on moments like this: 5-6 are great- I’m finishing 6 up now- but seasons 1-3 contained maybe some of the most consistently phenomenal comedy writing on American television. Seasons 5 & 6 are funny and clever throughout, but they lost the inspired momentum Harmon and co had been barreling ahead with previously.
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mysterious frankie posted:5-6 are great- I’m finishing 6 up now- but seasons 1-3 contained maybe some of the most consistently phenomenal comedy writing on American television. Seasons 5 & 6 are funny and clever throughout, but they lost the inspired momentum Harmon and co had been barreling ahead with previously. Oh absolutely. Even by the end of season 3 that momentum was flagging a bit imo, but the dislocation of season 4 killed it off and cast members leaving meant it was hard to get it going again. Seasons 5 and 6 aren't as consistent but they do still hit it out of the park sometimes. I just rewatched the Honda episode last night and it is so good.
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vyelkin posted:Oh absolutely. Even by the end of season 3 that momentum was flagging a bit imo, but the dislocation of season 4 killed it off and cast members leaving meant it was hard to get it going again. Seasons 5 and 6 aren't as consistent but they do still hit it out of the park sometimes. I just rewatched the Honda episode last night and it is so good. Agreed. I don’t think they could have ever kept it going, even if season four never happened, because Dan was more or less drinking/working himself to death and not delegating, or outright rewriting entire finished scripts after delegating (if I remember Harmontown correctly, it’s been a while). He was going to blow his brains out over a goofy show about adult education if he tried to keep that pace up.
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I have watched more Solar Opposites and it gets better... or I got worse. It’s wackier and less clever than Rick & Morty, but it’s also way less mopey and up its own rear end, which kinda balances out. I’m just watchin’ it all, I tell ya. —- Speaking of my slow descent into inanity, I recently started watching Joe Pera Talks with You and it’s maybe one of the best things to watch in a lockdown. I feel very relaxed and chuckle sensibly when I watch it.
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This man explained Quibi to me. Previous to watching this video I had assumed, based on intersection of bland icon design & name, it was some kind of social app for business children. Now I know that it's a Boomer's attempt to compete with tiktok... by slicing up Steven Spielberg movies into ten minute increments. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihFePUknSIc At the end he bitches about how they could have hired proven content creators in the medium to make new programming(1), but I'm just here to watch the money burn. e: 1: at this point in the historic cave painting our survivors will make to teach their children of the horror that befell the Gods in their hubris, if you're still bemoaning the fact that we could have had something nice if everyone wasn't just the worst, you're intentionally driving yourself insane. mysterious frankie has issued a correction as of 15:38 on May 21, 2020 |
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rottentomatoes has been pushing quibi behind the scenes lately and i had no idea what quibi was or why rottentomatoes would care and now that i have a better idea what quibi is i think i can safely say its hard to think of a distribution method thats more at odds with the idea of traditional reviews
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I'm not sure what's worse that American Media is so averse to ideas that no matter what they're given they just revert it into being a cookie cutter police procedural to be safe. Or they took the movie and just turned it into more Cop-aganda
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Some Guy TT posted:rottentomatoes has been pushing quibi behind the scenes lately and i had no idea what quibi was or why rottentomatoes would care and now that i have a better idea what quibi is i think i can safely say its hard to think of a distribution method thats more at odds with the idea of traditional reviews Yeah, imagine Roger Ebert reviewing Gallipoli, except he's in middle school and his world history teacher was showing it during class in 30 minutes chunks over the course of the week because he was on a bender. It's like that, except worse.
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KomradeX posted:I'm not sure what's worse that American Media is so averse to ideas that no matter what they're given they just revert it into being a cookie cutter police procedural to be safe. Or they took the movie and just turned it into more Cop-aganda remember when they made a minority report tv show that was just a police procedural with future psychics not necessarily a bad idea on its own but anyone whod ever actually seen the movie was unsurprisingly just scratching their head thinking uhhh wasnt the whole point that the police were the real bad guys
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gradenko_2000 posted:Last night my wife and I watched about four episodes of After Life, a show starring, written, and directed by Ricky Gervais. Late to the party but you read my mind! Hate that show but pretty well-liked among people i know who watched it. It gets even harder to sympathize with Gervais when he is such a prick to his brother-in-law, who is unreasonably accomodating towards Gervais even though he lost his sister, his loss is rarely akcnowledged in his ineractions with Ricky,
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https://twitter.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1263227589465976833?p=v even beyond the always appreciated gently caress phyllis schafly sentiment this is actually a fairly effective and reflective piece about the current trend of victim fetishization regarding women and minorities in historical fiction it isnt just contrary to the facts as we know them but even directly contradicts the ideological arguments and claimed experiences of the marginalized people such woke programming is allegedly attempting to educate us about
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That's one of the loving Hamilton guys lmao, worse yet I think that's the one who plays George "ripped the teeth out of his Black slaves to make his dentures" Washington holy poo poo Some Guy TT posted:rottentomatoes has been pushing quibi behind the scenes lately and i had no idea what quibi was or why rottentomatoes would care and now that i have a better idea what quibi is i think i can safely say its hard to think of a distribution method thats more at odds with the idea of traditional reviews Quibi is a scam to destroy the labor rights and pay standards of production crews, because the episodes are 8-10 minutes each. Yeah. That's it. That's literally the entire scam. It's nothing but destroying labor rights and labor pay in order to Make Number Go Up. All for the glory of "muh golden arm." I'm not even loving joking.
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Some Guy TT posted:remember when they made a minority report tv show that was just a police procedural with future psychics I watched two episodes of the Minority Report show, and the premise of it was bizarre. The show was supposed to be a sequel to the films, and the psychic siblings were supporting characters. Who wanted a real followup with those specific characters? And like you said, seeing them not understand the point of the movie and re-litigate all the debates about future crimes was mind-numbing. The weirdest part is that there are multiple ways to make Minority Report an actual show with a less absurd premise: Flesh out the plot of the story/film and build to not-Tom Cruise getting screwed over at the end of the season Have not-Tom Cruise go rogue in the pilot and the rest of the show is a cyberpunk Fugitive knock-off with psychics Just play out the plot in a single season and worry about S2 if you get the renewel none of these required the creators to spend a bunch of money on CGI and props to fit the aesthetic of the film either that's my take on a 5 year old show that aired 10 episodes
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I finally watched Joker a couple nights ago and was somehow able to keep from getting spoiled on it. When he does a sort of awkward jig on stage near the end is probably my favorite part
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