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it's zen 2 and GCN-based, so there really shouldn't be any reason why these won't be in B450s (and since 400 series chipsets are practically the same as 300 chipsets, it's possible to have the A300-based Deskmini support them). I can imagine that an RDNA-based APU would require a switchover to what Ian Cutress calls AM4+, though.
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May 14, 2020 06:56
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Wonder if you could legit downclock them to run on passive cooling, an 8C/16T 8CU running on 10W sounds incredible. I'd probably lose my poo poo if ASRock came out with a Raspberry Pi sized Renoir board.
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May 14, 2020 08:32
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This is one heck of a dual-EPYC motherboard, and as the article points out, also the only one that currently exists.
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May 14, 2020 11:08
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nice, so if zen 3 won't work on my B450 motherboard I'll just keep my 2600x until there's DDR5 stuff out there if it does work (bios size limitation is poppycock, a fairly big bunch of motherboards have flashback so MSI or whoever can just make a "3XXX+4XXX only" bios if push comes to shove, or just get rid of the graphic bios and I'll live anyways) I might think about dropping in a 8/16 4700X or whatever I don't get what all the fuss is, I'd like to be able to upgrade honestly but if I can't, eh... for my use, playing videogames at 1440p 60hz, CPU is really not that big a deal - actually it might be better to keep this CPU and get a better GPU for Christmas 
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May 14, 2020 13:33
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TorakFade posted:I don't get what all the fuss is Deceptive marketing is always worth making a fuss over.
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May 14, 2020 18:45
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Yep, this makes the choice easy to upgrade from a 1700 non-x to a 3900x in my x370 Taichi and then wait for AM5 for the next upgrade. The x600 chipsets better be awesome or I don't see a lot of people buying them with DDR5 around the corner. AMD's marketing gaffe aside, I've had a very good experience with the Zen line of CPUs and am glad they brought some actual innovation and competition into the CPU market again.
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In case you haven't seen it in any video game oriented threads/fora, here's what Unreal Engine 5 can do with RDNA2 hardware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC5KtatMcUw
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mdxi posted:In case you haven't seen it in any video game oriented threads/fora, here's what Unreal Engine 5 can do with RDNA2 hardware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC5KtatMcUw It's pretty, but rendered at 30 fps. Where's muh HFR?
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May 14, 2020 21:58
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mdxi posted:In case you haven't seen it in any video game oriented threads/fora, here's what Unreal Engine 5 can do with RDNA2 hardware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC5KtatMcUw drat, those are some good lighting effects.
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May 14, 2020 21:58
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teagone posted:It's pretty, but rendered at 30 fps. Where's muh HFR? It's just being true to the console experience.
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May 14, 2020 22:29
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ConanTheLibrarian posted:It's just being true to the console experience. Haven't Sony and MS made a big deal about this upcoming gen being capable of 60-120+ FPS at 1080p/4k?
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May 14, 2020 22:34
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teagone posted:Haven't Sony and MS made a big deal about this upcoming gen being capable of 60-120+ FPS at 1080p/4k? If history is anything to go by, we will start to hear about how "cinematic" experiences are closer to artistic visions closer to launch.
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May 14, 2020 22:40
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teagone posted:Haven't Sony and MS made a big deal about this upcoming gen being capable of 60-120+ FPS at 1080p/4k? Microsoft has. They also said the one x can to "true 4K" so they're kinda of full of poo poo.
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May 14, 2020 22:41
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TSMC really taking aim at Intel by building the fab in Arizona, though of course, yet another water-intensive manufacturing facility in a desert area... https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-14/tsmc-to-build-chip-plant-in-arizona-with-u-s-government-support
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May 15, 2020 01:27
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teagone posted:Haven't Sony and MS made a big deal about this upcoming gen being capable of 60-120+ FPS at 1080p/4k? New assassins creed is confirmed to run at 30fps on the next Xbox lol. They all lied again
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teagone posted:Haven't Sony and MS made a big deal about this upcoming gen being capable of 60-120+ FPS at 1080p/4k? I mean any device is capable of running whatever it can put out. There are phones that could do 4k/120. That doesn't mean everyone is going to make games that actually perform that way. As long as gamers continue to be doofuses who are sold more on impressive screenshots/30 FPS ad videos than gameplay, big budget gaming is by necessity going to focus on doing the most impressive 30 FPS possible.
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EmpyreanFlux posted:AMD Renoir SKU leaks, from Igors Lab - https://www.igorslab.de/en/all-technical-data-of-amds-new-renoir-desktop-apu-portfolio-for-am4-at-a-glance-exclusive-leak/ It seems unlikely that we'd see APU's priced less than the 3000 level CPU's for the same core/thread count, doesn't it? Unless 4000 series CPU's are going to be released at way lower price points than their predecessors, which seems unlikely.
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I came across a Gigabyte B450M motherboard that was not stable with the XMP profile provided by 2x 8GB 3600mhz sticks of Hynix C die ram. It turns out that the bios was ignoring the "I need 1.35v" part of the XMP profile, and decided to just go ahead and supply the ram with good ol' 1.20v JEDEC stock spec voltage instead. Despite running at advertised speeds / timings while being voltage starved, I could boot into Windows and not catch a blue screen until loading something heavy like Chrome. It was trivial to fix, but I had to go through some *serious* menu garbage to find the the setting I needed to change. The flow was something like "Power Management >> advanced settings >> power user settings >> advanced power user settings >> power user advanced power settings >> WARNING YOU ARE ABOUT TO VOID YOUR WARRANTY AND CAUSE FIRES >> I AGREE >> dram voltage >> (switched it from AUTO to MANUAL) >> YOU ARE WAY OUT OF LINE CHANGING THIS SETTING. TEAR WARRANTY IN HALF BEFORE PROCEEDING >> OK >> ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS? >> YES >> (changed 1.20v to 1.35v) >> SAVE AND EXIT AND PROBABLY SCREW EVERYTHING UP >> OK. I rebooted, and it's been wonderfully stable at the correct timings and speed. But I can see how a lot of users would have thrown in the towel and RMA'd one or more things, further growing the legend of "RYZEN SO PICKY WITH RAM."
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SourKraut posted:TSMC really taking aim at Intel by building the fab in Arizona, though of course, yet another water-intensive manufacturing facility in a desert area... We'll see how far this goes, given whats happened with previous "big" industry projects in the US.
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GRECOROMANGRABASS posted:The flow was something like "Power Management >> advanced settings >> power user settings >> advanced power user settings >> power user advanced power settings >> WARNING YOU ARE ABOUT TO VOID YOUR WARRANTY AND CAUSE FIRES >> I AGREE >> dram voltage >> (switched it from AUTO to MANUAL) >> YOU ARE WAY OUT OF LINE CHANGING THIS SETTING. TEAR WARRANTY IN HALF BEFORE PROCEEDING >> OK >> ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO THIS? >> YES >> (changed 1.20v to 1.35v) >> SAVE AND EXIT AND PROBABLY SCREW EVERYTHING UP >> OK. I don't think your bios did say that
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CommieGIR posted:We'll see how far this goes, given whats happened with previous "big" industry projects in the US. Yeah this was almost immediately followed up by the US demanding that TSMC cut out Huawei from getting chips from them
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:I don't think your bios did say that You have no right to deny their life experiences!
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GRINDCORE MEGGIDO posted:I don't think your bios did say that Anyhow, 1.35V is very safe for all of the DDR4.
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I have a 3200 set that will only run at 3000. I really should mess around with the voltages but life's too short
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May 16, 2020 14:07
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as i gaze wistfully at my B450 board and Ryzen 2600 i am reminded all too much of socket 939 and Athlon 3700 
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c0burn posted:I have a 3200 set that will only run at 3000. I really should mess around with the voltages but life's too short Ryzen and tediously tinkering with RAM timings/voltages when you get a pair of RAM whose XMP profile won't properly set is annoying, but we deal.
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teagone posted:Haven't Sony and MS made a big deal about this upcoming gen being capable of 60-120+ FPS at 1080p/4k? Sony added mouse support to PS4 and they already supported keyboards. CoD has native mouse/keyboard support on PS4. They have different matchmaking buckets for those users. Xbox added mouse support in 2018. I could see developers of shooters adding 120 FPS modes to their PS5/XSX games. Adaptive sync/VRR makes it more forgiving so they don't have to nail a locked 120.
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They already announced that Dirt 5 will run at 120fps on the new consoles (albeit at a lower resolution than the 60fps mode)
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Invested in a nice X470 board hoping to be ready for the generation after 3XXX CPUs but that didn't seem to work out. Not interested in a 3600/3700x. Bummer.
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Is anything on the current consoles even running at 4k60 (or even 30 for that matter) at a real 4K resolution? I’m not sure how the Xbox one x does it but the ps4 pro does some checkerboard rendering thing so the resolution is actually 1080p or lower frames rendering in a checkerboard pattern that alternates every frame so each frame is the same number of pixels as 1080p. Lots of games don’t even hit a true 1080p internal resolution for their 4K output.
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lllllllllllllllllll posted:Invested in a nice X470 board hoping to be ready for the generation after 3XXX CPUs but that didn't seem to work out. Not interested in a 3600/3700x. Bummer. Literally the same. If they don't backtrack on this I'll probably grab a 3xxx CPU when the 4xxx come out and they go on sale.
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GutBomb posted:Is anything on the current consoles even running at 4k60 (or even 30 for that matter) at a real 4K resolution? It's not super common but some XB1X games pull it off, for example BF1/BFV on the XB1X is dynamic 4K (dropping to about 90% res scale at the lowest) at 60fps. Most "4K" games on PS4 Pro are using some kind of reconstruction upscaling though, yeah.
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can changing motherboards affect the reporting of CPU temps for AMD? i moved from a (lovely) b450 board to a (better) x570 board with this 3700x and the temps seemed to jump like 10 degrees - from like 29 at idle to 39-45 at idle (both at stock, no oc as of yet). this is with a noctua nh-12s which is a pretty great cooler by any stretch. tried repasting/replacing the cooler but no difference. not unhappy with the temps by any means, just odd to see a board change come along with a large change in the temperature reported by a diode on the processor itself
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I can't help but wonder if the heatsink didn't seat properly or has a glitch in the thermal paste or something.
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I'm pretty sure it does, I had a B450 that claimed it was idling 10C higher than what Ryzen Master reported. Repasted multiple times, made it so brackets were tighter, nothing changed it. Switched to an X570 mobo and now the mobo reported temp is more in line with RM.
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charity rereg posted:as i gaze wistfully at my B450 board and Ryzen 2600 i am reminded all too much of socket 939 and Athlon 3700
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Budzilla posted:I still have my sticks of memory from my 939 Athlon x2 4200 system. They were pretty sweet. good god, we've found patient zero
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Budzilla posted:I still have my sticks of memory from my 939 Athlon x2 4200 system. They were pretty sweet. Mine were OCZ with their own heatpipes. Fast but stupid.
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