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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Jesus christ ok? Doesn't it make more sense to fine the business every day they are open and suspend their business license a better way of handling this?
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Jesus christ take a shot for every reply to this that has the words FREEDOM, LIBERTY, or CONSTITUTION written in all caps
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TotalHell posted:take a shot for every reply to this that has the words FREEDOM, LIBERTY, or CONSTITUTION written in all caps uhhh telling people to off themselves is bannable, just so you know
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I was finally able to get my surgery rescheduled to fix my ruptured bicep. The surgery isn't for another three weeks but they are requiring me to go to my primary care doc next week to get a COVID test. The test is on the 27th of May and the surgery is on the 8th of June. I understand the thought behind requiring the test but that's just shy of two weeks before the surgery, which is a lot of time to go from negative to positive.
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May 18, 2020 17:25
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Crusader posted:its all tribal culture war posturing there's no coherent theory of government or politics at play in their minds No, there are three competing and contradictory theories within the Republican party. You have your traditional fascists who want a big ol white state, you have your business type dudes who want dumb rear end suburban pleasures and low taxes and realize they benefit immensely from the status quo, and you have your cult rapist crowd who thinks there's no authority higher than your literal father or the sheriff who wants to decentralize into Jesus feudalism. All three love guns, rape, and hate women and minorities and are actively pursuing these goals together but can be distinguished by their views on the state.
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peepeepants posted:ok? Doesn't it make more sense to fine the business every day they are open and suspend their business license a better way of handling this? yeah, I was thinking this too. Provide a verbal confirmation "You are violating the order" then send fines/revoke business & health licenses. Lol if they were genuinely expecting an armed stand-off.
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May 18, 2020 17:26
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Mackers posted:a kindness probe give Mackers an av
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May 18, 2020 17:27
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Asproigerosis posted:There is absolutely something mentally ill about these people that deserves the attention of a specialist. there really isn't. there's nothing a psych specialist can do for those folks in this environment. they obviously have problems, but not ones the psych's can deal with during a 30 minute visit. you can't compel a psych eval without a more pressing reason, anyway.
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May 18, 2020 17:28
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Scott Forstall posted:yeah, I was thinking this too. Provide a verbal confirmation "You are violating the order" then send fines/revoke business & health licenses. Lol if they were genuinely expecting an armed stand-off. did you see the crowd? More like an armed sit-off
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Admiral Ray posted:there really isn't. there's nothing a psych specialist can do for those folks in this environment. they obviously have problems, but not ones the psych's can deal with during a 30 minute visit. you can't compel a psych eval without a more pressing reason, anyway. They're just spiteful people who think there isn't anything you can't turn into a tribal war, spite is a natural human motivator
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Since it's a public health hazard I don't see why they don't arrest the owner, tell them to close it, fine them, and revoke their business license. I mean Jesus, what kind of leftists are you? They shut down culturally left spaces in NYC for whatever drat reason they feel like, in the middle of a pandemic all of a sudden chuds putting literally thousands of people at risk so they can get swol brah is not a good reason for the police to take action?
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ricecult posted:Since it's a public health hazard I don't see why they don't arrest the owner, tell them to close it, fine them, and revoke their business license. I mean Jesus, what kind of leftists are you? They shut down culturally left spaces in NYC for whatever drat reason they feel like, in the middle of a pandemic all of a sudden chuds putting literally thousands of people at risk so they can get swol brah is not a good reason for the police to take action? you might be reading the wrong thread, I don't think anyone here is in favor of that gym staying open
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May 18, 2020 17:34
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Mackers posted:having a home gym would be cool but would cost a loving fortune My normal exercise is hiking up a little mountain with 32lbs strapped to my back, I've been substituting with a single weight and resistance bands. Went on a little hike without the backpack the other day and it was magical. The first group of people we saw tried to get off trail before we did so that made me feel better about it all
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SKULL.GIF posted:you might be reading the wrong thread, I don't think anyone here is in favor of that gym staying open Except all the people saying it's better for them to stay open and be fined.They should be shut down in brutal show of force by the state and sent to the gulags.
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peepeepants posted:ok? Doesn't it make more sense to fine the business every day they are open and suspend their business license a better way of handling this? no. them being open is an immediate threat to public health. it’s like letting an arsonist run free and tallying up the damages to fine him later. fire some tear gas canisters through the window, weld the door shut, arrest every employee who attempts to open the gym along with the owner, sell the building and equipment in a public auction to pay for the costs of enforcement.
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May 18, 2020 17:39
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peepeepants posted:ok? Doesn't it make more sense to fine the business every day they are open and suspend their business license a better way of handling this? not if you want to control the spread of the infection but since no one is actually trying to loving do that who knows Chicago is supposed to be one of the most draconian places and has settled on saying they would fine unnamed churches that keep holding services. it's a god drat joke the only good thing the stay at home order is doing at this point is keeping large office environments from reopening, every other vector (restaurants, bars, gyms) is roaring away at full capacity across the country. granted, that's because a ton of people are staying home to be safe anyways but that won't change regardless of the order or lack thereof
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https://twitter.com/KeeleyFox29/status/1262405237391884290 cool, normal, etc
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May 18, 2020 17:43
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Word's out in the fed circles that they're gonna start re-opening the offices in June. At least, tentatively. Probably only senior staff but eh
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May 18, 2020 17:44
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ricecult posted:Since it's a public health hazard I don't see why they don't arrest the owner, tell them to close it, fine them, and revoke their business license. I mean Jesus, what kind of leftists are you? They shut down culturally left spaces in NYC for whatever drat reason they feel like, in the middle of a pandemic all of a sudden chuds putting literally thousands of people at risk so they can get swol brah is not a good reason for the police to take action? I am not denying the double standard. Cheerleading for the cops to be violent to people I don't like doesn't sit well with me.
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ricecult posted:Except all the people saying it's better for them to stay open and be fined.They should be shut down in brutal show of force by the state and sent to the gulags. the police are openly refusing to enforce orders. a "brutal show of force" means calling in the national guard to not only go and shut down that gym but also arrest the police and, likely, get into live fire exchange now, I'm not against this, but I don't think it's a particularly great time all around
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peepeepants posted:I am not denying the double standard. Cheerleading for the cops to be violent to people I don't like doesn't sit well with me. State violence is a crucial tool, pandemic lockdown has been understood for centuries to be an apolitical part of the social contract, and it's unfortunate that the state in the US has been so undermined in the eyes of the right and left that we're relitigating this in 2020.
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FizFashizzle posted:the most important lesson from covid is that when the next pandemic hits, the response has to be federal and probably involve the national guard from the go So, you're saying that America will become extinct for COVID-23?
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FizFashizzle posted:the most important lesson from covid is that when the next pandemic hits, the response has to be federal and probably involve the national guard from the go Also as a country we need to get on the remote work train Anyone who can do their job from home should/must be doing that predominantly in the after times so our infrastructure/livelihoods aren't loving hammered the next time around
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unironically open poo poo up. gently caress it.
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SKULL.GIF posted:the police are openly refusing to enforce orders. a "brutal show of force" means calling in the national guard to not only go and shut down that gym but also arrest the police and, likely, get into live fire exchange Just have them raze a particularly noncompliant city each day until the lesson is learned instead of getting into an Iraq war style endless quagmire of small firefights. We act like cowing populations is impossible when China does it routinely, totally, and permanently
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Word's out in the fed circles that they're gonna start re-opening the offices in June. At least, tentatively. Most senior members are already doing this for the most part where I'm working. The director and each of the divisions supervisors are in their offices. Other tenant orgs are also doing this, with the exception of emergency services and ptms which are mostly staffed with everyone because of the nature of their work. I know the senior IT guy at the garrison side is going to his office and is making my life a little bit easier. We still haven't heard anything from our director on when we are going back to the office. Our building was in the middle of some extremely delayed repairs and modernization and we were working in trailers while they got done. He's made it clear we aren't going to be working in those trailers and if we cant occupy the building we'll be working remotely way after the call to go back is issued to everyone else.
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The reddit /r/bodyweightfitness recommended routine is really good, requires no weights, and kicks my rear end. lol who needs a gym. The only thing that I think I might cap out on soon is squats since there's not anywhere to go after shrimp and pistol squats.
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shovelbum posted:State violence is a crucial tool, pandemic lockdown has been understood for centuries to be an apolitical part of the social contract, and it's unfortunate that the state in the US has been so undermined in the eyes of the right and left that we're relitigating this in 2020. I don’t think it has been, I’ve read articles about the Spanish Flu and there were just as many or more dumb people protesting masks it should be better today, with instant communication, videos of corpses in hospitals, interviews with people who got the disease, but...
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The same instant communication networks through which we receive news deliver conspiracy theories and other horrid bullshit.
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peepeepants posted:I am not denying the double standard. Cheerleading for the cops to be violent to people I don't like doesn't sit well with me.
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The development of technology is never independent from humanity's biases. We are the virus... The computer virus. Iloveyou.exe
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Gio posted:seeing cops side with and embolden reactionaries doesnt sit well with me either.
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:The reddit /r/bodyweightfitness recommended routine is really good, requires no weights, and kicks my rear end. lol who needs a gym. yeah it's real good. squats and deadlifts/goodmornings are the only things you can't get from it.
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ricecult posted:Since it's a public health hazard I don't see why they don't arrest the owner, tell them to close it, fine them, and revoke their business license. I mean Jesus, what kind of leftists are you? They shut down culturally left spaces in NYC for whatever drat reason they feel like, in the middle of a pandemic all of a sudden chuds putting literally thousands of people at risk so they can get swol brah is not a good reason for the police to take action? The kinda leftist that believes the coronavurus shouldnt be an excuse to add onto the carceral state. Jailing ppl for violating quarantines has historically only been used against the marginalized and vulnerable. Color me confused that a self professes leftist is pushing for it. Fines sure, and even taking away health code certifications and licenses alright. Lets not get crazy here tho
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mystes posted:Cops and the military are absolutely going to side with the right wingers when they initiate a coup and the US stops being a democracy. This has already happened!
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shovelbum posted:Just have them raze a particularly noncompliant city each day until the lesson is learned instead of getting into an Iraq war style endless quagmire of small firefights. We act like cowing populations is impossible when China does it routinely, totally, and permanently lol at wishing for a bigger police state under trump.
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