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there's a book called the death and life of the great lakes that goes into detail on how environmentally destructive that waterway through Chicago is (and a ton of other interesting things). I wonder if flushing it backwards into the great lakes will push invasive carp species into lake Michigan edit here's the link to the sal weatherpocalypse thread fwiw https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3762868&pagenumber=262&perpage=40
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oystertoadfish posted:there's a book called the death and life of the great lakes that goes into detail on how environmentally destructive that waterway through Chicago is (and a ton of other interesting things). I wonder if flushing it backwards into the great lakes will push invasive carp species into lake Michigan Yeah, I was thinking the same thing - isn't there an issue with zebra mussels or something that they were trying hard as hell to keep out of Lake Michigan?
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Zarin posted:Yeah, I was thinking the same thing - isn't there an issue with zebra mussels or something that they were trying hard as hell to keep out of Lake Michigan? That battle is long since lost
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SKULL.GIF posted:That battle is long since lost Maybe they were trying to keep them out of the Illinois River, then? I thought I remembered an article within the last couple years that was concerned that they might have been found across a barrier that was expected to keep them from crossing near Lake Michigan, hmm.
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oystertoadfish posted:there's a book called the death and life of the great lakes that goes into detail on how environmentally destructive that waterway through Chicago is (and a ton of other interesting things). I wonder if flushing it backwards into the great lakes will push invasive carp species into lake Michigan They have been flushing it backwards around once a year for a while so the damage is probably mostly done on that front. https://mwrd.org/sites/default/files/documents/Reversals_2019.pdf
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Zarin posted:Maybe they were trying to keep them out of the Illinois River, then? Asian Carp were the thing they were trying to keep out of the Great Lakes. Who knows, maybe they will eat the zebra mussels.
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And also it naturally flows into lake Michigan, they had to do a shitload of work to make it go the other way
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The Glumslinger posted:And also it naturally flows into lake Michigan, they had to do a shitload of work to make it go the other way I assume "it" being the Chicago river? I thought the Illinois River naturally flowed south, where it met up with the Mississippi. It seems I've been pretty wrong on the rest of this Great Lakes Lore so far, so I'm willing to be wrong here too  (Thanks for the info everyone!  )
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Zarin posted:I assume "it" being the Chicago river? I thought the Illinois River naturally flowed south, where it met up with the Mississippi. Chicago river yeah, at some point they decided it was better to reroute the entire river than it was to just stop dumping their sewage into the river
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The Glumslinger posted:Chicago river yeah, at some point they decided it was better to reroute the entire river than it was to just stop dumping their sewage into the river the city's drinking water source is the lake so by reversing the flow, the sewage effluent in the river can be more easily treated without risking their water supply (treating the fresh poopwater once it's in the lake is obviously much more difficult) the river diversion was also done for navigational purposes, but yeah that was a secondary goal
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:You may be thinking of SAL's Weatherpocalypse thread I only just realised that the SAL weather thread is also called Weatherpocalypse. No wonder I could never find poo poo I was sure I had read.
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Megillah Gorilla posted:I only just realised that the SAL weather thread is also called Weatherpocalypse. this explains some of my confusion
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/19/asia/super-cyclone-amphan-india-banglash-intl-hnk/index.html CNN has it on front page, shockingly. Also just holy loving poo poo.
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Ratspeaker posted:Are there any good English livestreams that'll be covering Amphan's landfall? geez, this is showing it centered right on Kolkata
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Infrastructure week! https://twitter.com/CityofMidlandMI/status/1262864774355980289
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Get used to seeing those. Most US damns haven't been inspected in decades. EDIT: poo poo, it's an earthen dam, too.  
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Megillah Gorilla posted:Get used to seeing those. This AP investigation is a good summary of the state of dams in the US. It's not pretty.
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HugeGrossBurrito posted:nah it started in GBS P sure it was called Hurricane Hoedown back then
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Will this dam failure be a nothingburger like the Houston one? I remember being disappointed by the destruction during that one after goons hyped it up a lot.
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silicone thrills posted:https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/19/asia/super-cyclone-amphan-india-banglash-intl-hnk/index.html quote:...bringing damaging winds and heavy rain... a bit misleading start of the article when in the next paragraph it mentions that there were 165mph winds that are now down to a lowly 115  
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Syncopated posted:Will this dam failure be a nothingburger like the Houston one? I remember being disappointed by the destruction during that one after goons hyped it up a lot. well, the dams in this situation already broke addicks was getting historically high during harvey but didnt necessarily need to overtop because opening outlets up and letting more water downstream (and the flooding along the way that followed) was possible but that was like 1000 years ago i cant remember well Bulgakov has issued a correction as of 09:20 on May 20, 2020 |
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Luneshot posted:This AP investigation is a good summary of the state of dams in the US. I like the American Society of Civil Engineers' Report Card for America's Infrastructure quote:Dams provide vital service and protection to our communities and the economy. The average age of the 90,580 dams in America is 56 years. As our population grows and development continues, the overall number of high-hazard potential dams is increasing, with the number climbing to nearly 15,500 in 2016. Due to the lack of investment, the number of deficient high-hazard potential dams has also climbed to an estimated 2,170 or more. It is estimated that it will require an investment of nearly $45 billion to repair aging, yet critical, high-hazard potential dams.  EDIT: Their site used to be a lot better at representing the data. Now you have to download PDF files which are nowhere near as helpful at showing just how hosed everything is. Also, I'd like to see where the drinking water score sits now: 
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thought this might be a good place to post some of this https://twitter.com/nailpounder/status/1263017470593511425 this drat is a serious problem since the most recent high water mark was 33 ft and it's already surpassed that. they expect 38 ft sometime today.  the sanford dam was built in 1925 https://twitter.com/PeaceLoveMI/status/1262945164332544001
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https://twitter.com/bgutenschwager/status/1263071199095140352 https://twitter.com/bgutenschwager/status/1263068855758356482 https://twitter.com/bgutenschwager/status/1263063660295053313
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:https://twitter.com/bgutenschwager/status/1263071199095140352 https://twitter.com/bgutenschwager/status/1263068855758356482 https://twitter.com/bgutenschwager/status/1263063660295053313 why are you there gutenschwager!!!
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y’all should watch Damnation it’s pretty informative and it was made by a guy in my town
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BigDave posted:A couple of dams breached in central Michigan:
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statement from dow chemical  https://twitter.com/ChadLivengood/status/1263133750231171072 
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so uh, is that bad
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Hurt Whitey Maybe posted:so uh, is that bad Depends! Is your viewpoint: 1). I don't like chemicals in the river or 2). Free cleanup of the holding ponds!
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