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galenanorth
May 19, 2016

Thesaurus posted:

What's scraping in this context? Taking food that's going to be thrown out?

writing a bot to collect data from a website, like store addresses and hours, in order to sell the data to third parties. For example, in 2016 Cambridge Analytica scraped a lot of voter data from Facebook and sold it to the Trump campaign.

I was going to try starting a scraping business, but then I decided that learned that I should probably have a year of rent or something saved up first. To be technically legal, I'd also need permission from my landlord, so I'd probably have to have enough for an office or something. For a home office, you also have to submit floor plans of the apartment, then someone comes by and inspects it, all because of zoning laws, even for an Internet business without any real-world activity, and people were telling me it's probably one of those laws everybody ignores in practice. I got too ahead of myself to have done anything practical yet, but it was fun to try

galenanorth has issued a correction as of 16:36 on May 19, 2020

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Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Pead posted:

it's so managers can make people work with high temperatures by pretending that they are fine

that seems like something their lawyer would advse against

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
https://www.ft.com/content/1a25aeb9-f645-434f-b3e1-4ab62cf5ebed

US considers backing away from WHO move on Covid-19 drug patents
Trump warns funding to body will stop if it fails to ‘commit to substantive improvements in next 30 days’


The US is preparing to publicly disassociate itself from language in a World Health Organization resolution that will back the right of poor countries to ignore patents in order to gain access to a Covid-19 vaccine or treatment.


Many governments, particularly in Africa, fear they will be squeezed out by richer countries unless they can force companies that discover anti-Covid-19 therapies to share their intellectual property with manufacturers able to produce them cheaply at scale.

African ambassadors in Geneva, where the WHO is based, said US diplomats had sought to persuade them to support a dilution of language in the resolution, a proposal they had rejected.

According to several people familiar with the situation, the US was planning to disassociate itself from part of the resolution but talks are continuing. Although the US will make its objections clear, the resolution is expected to pass. The White House declined to comment on the negotiations.

The talks come as US President Donald Trump has threatened to pull out of the WHO unless it demonstrates its independence from China in an escalation of his efforts to blame Beijing for the virus emergency.

In a letter published late on Monday, Mr Trump warned that the US would permanently end funding to the international body if it failed to “commit to major substantive improvements in the next 30 days”.

The US president castigated the WHO and Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, its director-general, for “repeated mis-steps” in its coronavirus pandemic response that had proved “extremely costly for the world”.

Mr Trump accused the WHO of neglecting to share information about the initial Covid-19 outbreak in China, failing to press Beijing sufficiently for answers, and of making “grossly inaccurate or misleading” claims about the disease. The WHO has previously denied the allegations.

The resolution over patents is being discussed at a virtual two-day meeting of the World Health Assembly, the WHO’s governing body, which concludes on Tuesday.

“The US made some input trying to water down the references to Trips and patenting,” said one west African ambassador to Geneva, referring to Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights. “The US is certain they will be the first to get the vaccine, but it might not be true.”

Illustrating the concerns about richer countries getting earlier access to any vaccine, Ellen ‘t Hoen, director of the research group Medicines Law & Policy, said it took a decade for African countries to get affordable Aids medicines, during which time millions of people died.

“What we have seen in the past is that high-income countries rush to the front of the queue and leave the rest of the world to fend for themselves,” she said.

In 2001, in the so-called Doha Declaration, World Trade Organization ministers said that governments could overrule intellectual property in a public health emergency.

The US and other nations with strong pharmaceutical sectors, including the UK, Switzerland and Japan, wanted language explicitly referring to the Doha Declaration removed from the resolution, according to an early draft seen by the Financial Times.

They wanted instead to emphasise the role of intellectual property in promoting innovation and to encourage equitable access to any Covid-19 vaccine or treatment through voluntary mechanisms, including donations and partnerships.

The debate over intellectual property is part of a broader tussle between China and the US over who develops a vaccine first and how it will be distributed.

Xi Jinping, Chinese president, on Monday appeared to back the position of developing countries, when he said any vaccine “will be treated as a public good”.

In an address to the World Health Assembly — itself controversial because of US accusations that Beijing covered up the initial Covid-19 outbreak in the Chinese city of Wuhan — Mr Xi said China would donate $2bn over two years to respond to the crisis, especially in developing countries.

The White House described the Chinese offer as a “token to distract from calls from a growing number of nations demanding accountability for the Chinese government’s failure to meet its obligations . . . to tell the truth and warn the world of what was coming”.

John Ullyot, the White House National Security Council spokesman, added that “as the source of the outbreak, China has a special responsibility to pay more and to give more” to the global health body.

In a clear reference to China on Monday, Alex Azar, the US health secretary, slammed “at least one member state” for making a “mockery of their transparency obligations, with tremendous costs for the entire world”.

Mr Azar also hit out at the WHO for its alleged “failure to obtain the information that the world needed”, which he said had “cost many lives” by allowing the outbreak to spin out of control.

Diplomats said Washington had pushed strongly for language calling for an independent investigation “at the earliest possible opportunity” into the WHO-led response to the outbreak.

In a letter seen by the Financial Times, African ambassadors in Geneva said attacks on the WHO’s Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus “from some quarters” had an “unfortunate racial overtone”. In the letter, first published in Africa Confidential, a specialist newsletter, the ambassadors said in an apparent dig at Washington that “failures at the national level should not be attributed to the WHO”.

In April, Mr Trump said the US would suspend funding of the WHO. Some diplomats thought an independent inquiry could be a precondition for Washington to resume contributions. Mr Trump on Monday did not comment on the Chinese announcements but repeated his recent attacks on the WHO, saying it was “a puppet of China”.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Hey look, a whole city where everyone is Brady Sluder:

https://twitter.com/maria_rendon97/status/1262389337506881536?s=20

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Sir Tonk posted:

well yeah obviously, im just wondering how it's "supposed" to work

Pretend to follow the rules for the first week or two while everyone is watching, then quietly start ignoring them until the heat is on.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Bonus points for the cop gleefully threatening to throw people in jail.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

my bony fealty posted:

its awesome how often government IT contractors seem to gently caress up making website forms

the fed government put in onerous IT privacy requirements for all social state programs like unemployement

Lamebot
Sep 8, 2005

ロボ顔菌~♡
give me the body melting pills plz

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

Sir Tonk posted:

well yeah obviously, im just wondering how it's "supposed" to work

Like everything else in this whole thing, it pushes the onus on to individual workers to deal with anyone not complying and then those workers will receive zero support if they try to enforce the rules, and in fact makes sure those workers have to out themselves at risk to even try.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Lamebot posted:

give me the body melting pills plz

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hTDnxsH5Fk

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Anyway the IG wasn't fired, he's just not allowed to go to work. Court rules 5-4 that this doesn't count as firing, because John Madison once said "zoom", which means he thinks remote work by internet means you're not fired.

Vishass
Feb 1, 2004

Nocturtle posted:


The US response couldn't reduce the rate of new COVID cases outside NYC/the major metros even when all schools+daycares are closed. Forget churches, the primary method of community spread (filthy schools and children in them) has been effectively turned off and the US still couldn't get this under control. All this talk of reopening and the freedom to get a burger seems to ignore this, a strange oversight!

Interesting how it usually goes the other way, as times of crisis are when the disaster capitalism happens. Presumably this is because capitalists are already in charge and are the only group coordinated enough to impose their agenda while everyone else is scrambling. I don't think any of us or the broader public have grasped the scale of wealth transfer to the ultra-wealthy over just the past few weeks, we've all been distracted for some reason.

are we looking at different charts because banning large gatherings and closing schools did appear to pump the brakes on growth. We didn't hit some 70% infected herd limiting mitigation at 20,0000 cases.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


We've very clearly reduced the rate of increase in new cases but now we're largely holding steady on the rate of daily new cases.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

featuring a guest appearance by squizzle’s av

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

brugroffil posted:

We've very clearly reduced the rate of increase in new cases but now we're largely holding steady on the rate of daily new cases.

nyc has gone down

that is it

nikosoft
Dec 17, 2011

ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse
College Slice

I mean, I don't want to be a West Coast elitist and all that, but god drat, people. Have some self respect.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008





a whole city where everyone is all gravy


baby

Thoguh
Nov 8, 2002

College Slice

brugroffil posted:

We've very clearly reduced the rate of increase in new cases but now we're largely holding steady on the rate of daily new cases.

The shutdowns we did do were effective in limiting the growth of new cases but now we're opening back up without actually making any real changes to what we were doing before we shut down other than 2/3 of people are, for now at least, still trying to remain isolated. That number will go down every week but the number of new cases won't really start to pop for another month.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
Bad protesting:

https://twitter.com/dabeard/status/1262731334780424193?s=20

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1262770006238126083?s=20


Better protesting:

https://twitter.com/hvgoenka/status/1262059879637889024?s=20

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

it’s seems the shut down was effective in NYC and not really anywhere else

hallebarrysoetoro
Jun 14, 2003

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

Bonus points for the cop gleefully threatening to throw people in jail.

are these bonus points in addition to a country gleefully threatening to throw itself into a mass death event

snoo
Jul 5, 2007




https://twitter.com/baltimoresun/status/1262749948535160832

hahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaahahahaha

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

Thoguh posted:

The shutdowns we did do were effective in limiting the growth of new cases but now we're opening back up without actually making any real changes to what we were doing before we shut down other than 2/3 of people are, for now at least, still trying to remain isolated. That number will go down every week but the number of new cases won't really start to pop for another month.

Cases slowing down is a bit of an assumption because the rate decreasing exactly lines up with states getting better at hiding the number of infections and deaths in order to justify reopening.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

euphronius posted:

it’s seems the shut down was effective in NYC and not really anywhere else

If it hadn't worked everywhere else, everywhere would look like NYC in March and we'd have millions dead already

snoo
Jul 5, 2007




maryland has pretty steadily had 1k new cases a day, but since a few people left the hospital each day over two weeks, it was time to open er up

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

euphronius posted:

it’s seems the shut down was effective in NYC and not really anywhere else

That's because a third of the people left

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006


Die Heimat ist weit
Doch wir sind bereit
Wir kämpfen und siegen
Für dich, Freiheit!

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


I gave myself a buzzcut to get rid of my blossoming hockey mullet and now my scalp is getting all zitty. this is bullshit

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


euphronius posted:

nyc has gone down

that is it

think of it like speed vs. acceleration

we seem to have stopped accelerating and are now holding at a steady high speed

the stay-at-home stuff allowed us to break the exponential growth but we're still spreading infection


e: that we're now slamming our foot back down on the gas is of course hilariously stupid

brugroffil has issued a correction as of 17:09 on May 19, 2020

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1262771268295766022?s=20

MoaM
Dec 1, 2009

Joyous.
https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1262776365381816325

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqPxDYdbgoc

magiccarpet
Jan 3, 2005




did my antibody test today thanks nyc

hallebarrysoetoro
Jun 14, 2003

snoo posted:

maryland has pretty steadily had 1k new cases a day, but since a few people left the hospital each day over two weeks, it was time to open er up

this number was only because maryland had (iirc) the most daily tests on record for the state

so its good news, but only because it's extremely bad news

looking forward to ocean city sending coronavirus to all corners of glen burnie, calvert county, and harford county

Jay-V
Nov 8, 2009

take that oreos, you drat KNOCKOFFs

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

magiccarpet posted:

did my antibody test today thanks nyc

Which kind? I want to do one but I read the quicktests are unreliable and I don’t know where to order a serology test

Penisaurus Sex
Feb 3, 2009

asdfghjklpoiuyt
Very strange to make definitive statements about the pandemic when we know that like a dozen states are publishing useless information divorced from reality.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

brugroffil posted:

think of it like speed vs. acceleration

we seem to have stopped accelerating and are now holding at a steady high speed

the stay-at-home stuff allowed us to break the exponential growth but we're still spreading infection


e: that we're now slamming our foot back down on the gas is of course hilariously stupid

Its too bad our idiotic messaging was that turning on the cruise control was all we had to do and we never needed to touch the brakes. And after 2 months of cruising at 70 on an open road time to let er rip

hallebarrysoetoro
Jun 14, 2003

there's approximately a 95% chance that this is what the doctors are giving trump and telling him its hydroxychloroquine

Vishass
Feb 1, 2004

hallebarrysoetoro posted:


looking forward to ocean city sending coronavirus to all corners of glen burnie, calvert county, and harford county

fishers popcorn has an old bay flavor

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hallebarrysoetoro
Jun 14, 2003

Vishass posted:

fishers popcorn has an old bay flavor

crabs are gone forever

been trying to buy some for a month now and all they're selling are smalls and females

truly the darkest timeline

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