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Zzulu posted:before the oil Norway was just trash, better to be thrown away This is a myth. A myth we seem very eager to believe in Norway. Norway was actually doing pretty drat well and was pretty prosperous long before we got the oil. Without the oil thigns would be different for sure, but likely we would have been in much the same situation as Denmark, Sweden, Finland, and other such countries are (which is very similar to Norway), we just wouldn't have been as turbo-charged (though much of that turbo-charging has gone into savings and investments rather than being directly spent), and our national economy likely would be more diversified.
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May 19, 2020 11:55
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the strength of the oil lobby in this country becomes readily apparent whenever someone suggests that maybe we should start funding other things as well
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May 19, 2020 12:16
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If the Corona crisis breaks the EU we might get to try Kalmarunionen 2.0.
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May 19, 2020 12:20
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Swede spotted.
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May 19, 2020 12:21
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If you're worried about sweden having too much power we can split sweden in two, Svealand and Götaland. That would make everyone happy even us Swedes.
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May 19, 2020 12:26
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Yeah. That's a very Swedish way of thinking about it as well.
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May 19, 2020 12:30
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Drawing arbitrary lines on a map is a time honered tradion and honestly I can't see it go wrong this time.
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May 19, 2020 12:36
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imo sweden should annex southeastern norway up to and including akershus (oppland amd hedmark debatable) and give skåne back to denmark
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May 19, 2020 12:41
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Whoops, looks like SSI was bad at math.
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May 19, 2020 12:47
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note that this is driven pretty much entirely by resentment against oslo as a phenomenon and a desire to see their eternal inferiority neurosis actualised in a real way
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May 19, 2020 12:51
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Hønefoss as new capital.
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May 19, 2020 12:55
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Oslo as capital of Scandinavia. We have the best kebab places drat it.
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May 19, 2020 13:09
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Stalins Moustache posted:Oslo as capital of Scandinavia. We have the best kebab places drat it. No. Drammen has the best kebabs in Norway. Oslo definitely has the highest number of decent to good ones (because you know, size), but the best kebabs are in Drammen. Bergen somehow is just loving terrible, I've pretty much never eaten a good kebab in Bergen. At least not in the city center, honorable mentions go to Daniel Rullekebab in Laksevåg and Nirvana Kebab in Sandviken, but those are very much an exception from the norm (and Nirvana's kebabs are a bit atypical for both Norway and Bergen, so it's a bit different). Anyway Oslo is good, but Drammen is the best if it's kebabs you're after. And practically every kebab shop you can find wherever you drat please in eastern Norway is better than about 90% of what exists in Bergen. Seriously what the gently caress is up with that? Randarkman fucked around with this message at 13:25 on May 19, 2020 |
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May 19, 2020 13:16
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Randarkman posted:No. Drammen has the best kebabs in Norway. Oslo definitely has the highest number of decent to good ones (because you know, size), but the best kebabs are in Drammen. Bergen somehow is just loving terrible, I've pretty much never eaten a good kebab in Bergen. At least not in the city center, honorable mentions go to Daniel Rullekebab in Laksevåg and Nirvana Kebab in Sandvike, but those are very much an exception from the norm (and Nirvana's kebabs are a bit atypical for both Norway and Bergen, so it's a bit different). Anyway Oslo is good, but Drammen is the best if it's kebabs you're after. And practically every kebab shop you can find wherever you drat please in eastern Norway is better than about 90% of what exists in Bergen. Seriously what the gently caress is up with that? i'm convinced that it's because central bergen is so dense and kebabs are mostly drunk people food so the main driver of demand has been price for a while. this, imo, is why the best ones have been out of the main thoroughfares, as you identify it has been getting better recently though, more german-style places have been popping up
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May 19, 2020 13:24
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Randarkman posted:No. Drammen has the best kebabs in Norway. Oslo definitely has the highest number of decent to good ones (because you know, size), but the best kebabs are in Drammen. Bergen somehow is just loving terrible, I've pretty much never eaten a good kebab in Bergen. At least not in the city center, honorable mentions go to Daniel Rullekebab in Laksevåg and Nirvana Kebab in Sandviken, but those are very much an exception from the norm (and Nirvana's kebabs are a bit atypical for both Norway and Bergen, so it's a bit different). Anyway Oslo is good, but Drammen is the best if it's kebabs you're after. And practically every kebab shop you can find wherever you drat please in eastern Norway is better than about 90% of what exists in Bergen. Seriously what the gently caress is up with that? I'll be honest here and just say that I've never had a REALLY good schwarma, kebab or shish taouk in Norway. I haven't had any in Sweden and only one in Denmark though. Hell, I've never had magically good pizza in Norway either.
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May 19, 2020 13:28
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also oslo as the capitol of a real country would be horrifying, we'd end up invading east timor out of some bizarre appropriation of great power politics
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May 19, 2020 13:28
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Randarkman posted:No. Drammen has the best kebabs in Norway. Oslo definitely has the highest number of decent to good ones (because you know, size), but the best kebabs are in Drammen. Bergen somehow is just loving terrible, I've pretty much never eaten a good kebab in Bergen. At least not in the city center, honorable mentions go to Daniel Rullekebab in Laksevåg and Nirvana Kebab in Sandviken, but those are very much an exception from the norm (and Nirvana's kebabs are a bit atypical for both Norway and Bergen, so it's a bit different). Anyway Oslo is good, but Drammen is the best if it's kebabs you're after. And practically every kebab shop you can find wherever you drat please in eastern Norway is better than about 90% of what exists in Bergen. Seriously what the gently caress is up with that? gently caress now I really want a kebab.
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May 19, 2020 13:36
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the latter-day norwegian political elite is honestly one of the most pathetic ones in existence it's not that they're especially bad at their jobs, it's that they don't seem to understand that they're involved in real politics at all. they're attempting to emulate a bunch of guys who attempt to emulate the West Wing
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May 19, 2020 13:39
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abske_fides posted:I'll be honest here and just say that I've never had a REALLY good schwarma, kebab or shish taouk in Norway. I haven't had any in Sweden and only one in Denmark though. Hell, I've never had magically good pizza in Norway either. Had a great loving kebab in Tromsø. Was even sober for it a couple of times and goddamn, it was still loving perfect. Magically good pizza in Norway is Superhero Pizza in Trondheim. The taco pulled pork cheddar mozzarella red onion avocado aioli and salsa is loving incredible.
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May 19, 2020 13:40
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abske_fides posted:I'll be honest here and just say that I've never had a REALLY good schwarma, kebab or shish taouk in Norway. I haven't had any in Sweden and only one in Denmark though. Hell, I've never had magically good pizza in Norway either. Well. I can give you two recommendations for Drammen at least. Well kind of two and-a-half. The first is Snappy's Kebab, there's really two of these one on the Bragernes side (the side with the brewery) and one on the Strømso side (the side with the train station) of the river, I've historically preferred the Bragernes one. It's very much a fast food style döner in a pita (you order that in Drammen, not rullekebab, that said the kebab plate is also really good and you get a pita on the side anyway), nothing really fancy about it, doesn't try to wow you with ingredients or anything, the secret's in the sauce (the hot sauce can be really hot, but it seems to vary a bit from time to time) and the fact that it's actual döner kebab, like this  and not just minced meat in a drawer (the Bergen experience). Decently enough priced as well. EDIT: https://www.nrk.no/vestland/kjorte-14-timer-for-a-spise-kebab-1.6150165 Other recommendation is a restaurant called Capapdocia right by the train station. As you might have guessed they serve Turkish food, and it's a proper restaurant, not just a fast food place (not to disparage fast food, as there's a time and place for that), but they do takeway and they've got kebabs and they're good (and about the same price as most fast food kebabs) and different from the typical fast food kebab, and like most Turkish food it's not spicy. You'll also often get some tea while you're waiting for your food, typically unprompted in my experience (though keep in mind this is Turkish tea, so it's like 95% sugar). There are also those who swear by Galaxy, which is closer to Bragernes square IIRC. But I can't really quite recall what they're like as I never go there. Also most of the people who swear by Galaxy buy rullekebabs, the heathens. e: Also, not Drammen and not kebabs. But this is the best burger place in the country. ' https://www.dn.no/mat/mat/handel/okonomi/texburger-selger-1000-hamburgere-om-dagen/2-1-643239 Also interesting in that it really is nothing fancy in terms of ingredients. You can get a burger, with or without cheese, and fries or no fries. That's kind of it. And they use a pretty good coleslaw and dressing. I mean there's lots of places around that have interesting and often tasty burgers with various ingredients, but they're still outclassed by Texburger in the end. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 13:53 on May 19, 2020 |
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May 19, 2020 13:41
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SplitSoul posted:Whoops, looks like SSI was bad at math. No, they just included infections which happened abroad when estimating reproduction rate (smittetryk). This made them overshoot the "domestic" reproduction rate. Stalins Moustache posted:Oslo as capital of Scandinavia. We have the best kebab places drat it. Doesn't Olso have an airport in a stupid location with frequent weather bad enough to cancel flights? That would be a silly place to put the capital. Let's put the capital on Anholt, and expand the island. PederP fucked around with this message at 13:56 on May 19, 2020 |
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May 19, 2020 13:49
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PederP posted:Doesn't Olso have an airport in a stupid location with frequent weather bad enough to cancel flights? That would be a silly place to put the capital. Let's put the capital on Anholt, and expand the island. I don't think so? Gardermoen is like 30 minutes from Oslo and there really isn't much in the way of crazy mountains or fjords in south eastern Norway, so the geographical conditions are mostly what you'd find in Oslo I'd think. I had a look at the wiki page though and... huh. Wikipedia posted:In 1988, a majority of the government chose Hurum as their preferred location, and Minister of Transport Kjell Borgen withdrew from his position. In 1989, new weather surveys from Hurum showed unfavorable conditions. There were large protests from meteorologists and pilots who stated that the surveys were manipulated. Two government committees were appointed, and both concluded that there were no irregularities in the surveys.
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May 19, 2020 14:12
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There's an NRK Brennpunkt documentary about that case. I can't recap it because I was only half paying attention to it when it aired but it was a weird death. https://tv.nrk.no/serie/brennpunkt/1999/FFAD12006999
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May 19, 2020 14:16
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Randarkman posted:This is a myth. A myth we seem very eager to believe in Norway. Norway was actually doing pretty drat well and was pretty prosperous long before we got the oil. Without the oil thigns would be different for sure, but likely we would have been in much the same situation as Denmark, Sweden, Finland, and other such countries are (which is very similar to Norway), we just wouldn't have been as turbo-charged (though much of that turbo-charging has gone into savings and investments rather than being directly spent), and our national economy likely would be more diversified. My in-laws used to go on vacation to Norway in the 70-80s cause it was much cheaper than going on vacation in Sweden.
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May 19, 2020 14:19
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Oslo's kebab quality has gone downhill in recent years, starting around the time Torggata was gentrified. We lost some good places back then, like Marino, with it's marinated cubes of lamb, home-baked pita and pakistani-influenced sauces. Worse yet, the lack of competition seems to be affecting the ones who survived. Mediterranean Grill's meat is fried to a crisp and extremely dry these days, the pita is standard frozen, there's no marinade to speak of and the sauce has gotten tamer. Istanbul and Balkan are OK, but sort of a pain to get to, not really worth it. The Corner was a hidden treasure with Swedish kebab, but closed after a divorce. Please, if anyone has a lead on good kebab let me know!
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May 19, 2020 14:30
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Stalins Moustache posted:
Back to the proper name
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May 19, 2020 14:50
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Rust Martialis posted:Back to the proper name That's stupid.
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May 19, 2020 14:53
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to reiterate, oslo having to manage a real country would have completely horrific results, do not do it there would be pogroms within a decade
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May 19, 2020 15:00
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Randarkman posted:That's stupid. Stupider than putting the capital of Scandinavia in Norway? lol
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May 19, 2020 15:05
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Rust Martialis posted:Stupider than putting the capital of Scandinavia in Norway? lol Scandinavia isn't a country.
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May 19, 2020 15:07
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PederP posted:No, they just included infections which happened abroad when estimating reproduction rate (smittetryk). This made them overshoot the "domestic" reproduction rate. Exactly, bad at math.
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May 19, 2020 15:33
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Put the capital in Gothenburg and we’ll piss of the right people imo.
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May 19, 2020 15:52
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Fox Cunning posted:Put the capital in Gothenburg and we’ll piss of the right people imo.
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May 19, 2020 16:31
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Randarkman posted:Scandinavia isn't a country. Try reading this page again, maybe? You apparently missed some posts Stalins Moustache posted:Oslo as capital of Scandinavia. We have the best kebab places drat it.
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May 19, 2020 17:41
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Hökensås is the only sensible solution. Equidistant from all current capitals, and plenty of room to build a capital from scratch. Gothenburg is the most sensible location if you absolutely have to have a large town as a base though. imo we should build the capital of scandinavia on some bizarre island somewhere
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May 19, 2020 17:48
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Gotland is a pretty bizarre island.
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May 19, 2020 17:51
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Comes the hour, comes the island: Bornholm.
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May 19, 2020 18:08
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V. Illych L. posted:imo we should build the capital of scandinavia on some bizarre island somewhere Pepparholm is just perfect!
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V. Illych L. posted:imo we should build the capital of scandinavia on some bizarre island somewhere
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