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Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
idk why you would care about something endorsing La Riva; PSL candidates tend to be intentionally symbolic -- sometimes they're not even eligible :shrug:

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Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Anybody who supported Corbyn, and then supported Sanders, and now is supporting Howie Hawkins lacks basic pattern recognition.

Soup du Jour
Sep 8, 2011

I always knew I'd die with a headache.

Gripweed posted:

Anybody who supported Corbyn, and then supported Sanders, and now is supporting Howie Hawkins lacks basic pattern recognition.

endorsing howie as anything beyond a spit in the eye of people who think they can gently caress around and not find out is stupid

Dmitri-9
Nov 30, 2004

There's something really sexy about Scrooge McDuck. I love Uncle Scrooge.

Gripweed posted:

Anybody who supported Corbyn, and then supported Sanders, and now is supporting Howie Hawkins lacks basic pattern recognition.

No one expects Howie Hawkins to win, the point is to leave your autograph in blood at the DNC murder scene.

Finicums Wake
Mar 13, 2017
Probation
Can't post for 8 years!

PawParole posted:

Arabs and Indians are also yacuubs creations and therefore white

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

probing for a yakubian devils joke? shameful

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Soup du Jour posted:

endorsing howie as anything beyond a spit in the eye of people who think they can gently caress around and not find out is stupid

No one will care. Ventura could've gotten some heat, but Hawkins is just too boring.

Uranium
Sep 11, 2001

Through constant decay
Uranium creates
the radioactive ray.



but doctor, i am green bernie

papa horny michael
Aug 18, 2009

by Pragmatica

PawParole posted:

Arabs and Indians are also yacuubs creations and therefore white

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

is this reversed yet?

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

gh0stpinballa posted:

call her daddy is a better podcast than cum town tbh

critical support for the "Call Her Daddy" hosts in their struggle against Dave Portnoy

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

zegermans posted:

Chapo hasn't done a straight politics episode since Bernie dropped out and it's kinda annoying. If you're into stoners riffing about nothing YKS is far more entertaining.

Anyway I haven't listened to the latest but I imagine it's 90 minutes of Stav's comedic genius of "Have you ever heard of SEX?! I'm fat btw"

i'm sure The Antifada is much more your style if you want unfunny moralizing

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Don't support kindly old men. No more kindly old men. They are useless.

studio mujahideen
May 3, 2005

la riva having leonard peltier as her running mate makes her the automatic pick for voting

Soup du Jour
Sep 8, 2011

I always knew I'd die with a headache.

Gripweed posted:

No one will care. Ventura could've gotten some heat, but Hawkins is just too boring.

liberals hate nader more than they hate bush, the act of voting for him is enough no matter the percentages

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

Soup du Jour posted:

liberals hate nader more than they hate bush, the act of voting for him is enough no matter the percentages

Nader at least was a public figure before he ran for president, nobody has ever heard of Howie Hawkins.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Do you think the libs won't screech about evil Marxist racist antisemite Howard "Death To America" Hawkins anyway? Due could literally be dead or imaginary and libs are still gonna hate him if/when Biden eats poo poo. I'm voting for him to piss off libs and maybe get green more support.

sleeptalker
Feb 17, 2011

Bernie and Jezza were the tragedy, Howie is the farce, nothing you can do that's just how history works.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

T-man posted:

Do you think the libs won't screech about evil Marxist racist antisemite Howard "Death To America" Hawkins anyway? Due could literally be dead or imaginary and libs are still gonna hate him if/when Biden eats poo poo. I'm voting for him to piss off libs and maybe get green more support.

Unless he can get some promenince between now and the election, no one's going to give enough of a poo poo about him to be a decent scapegoat. This isn't to discourage people from third party voting, it's just that when you tell people you're voting for Howard, you should expect people to think you're writing in Adam Sandler's character from Uncut Gems.

Gripweed
Nov 8, 2018

MizPiz posted:

Unless he can get some promenince between now and the election, no one's going to give enough of a poo poo about him to be a decent scapegoat. This isn't to discourage people from third party voting, it's just that when you tell people you're voting for Howard, you should expect people to think you're writing in Adam Sandler's character from Uncut Gems.

This is why it's such a tragedy that Ventura isn't running. He's famous and is entertaining enough that he would've been a major figure in the election. He would've occupied a space in ~the discourse~, voting for Ventura would've been an act with actual political meaning.

I really doubt that Howie is going to be able to make voting for him mean anything

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Shipon posted:

i'm sure The Antifada is much more your style if you want unfunny moralizing

Haha drat

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Is the PSL podcast funny?

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Egg Moron posted:

Is the PSL podcast funny?

In what way

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

I don't think there is any PSL podcast? Some members have shows on Sputnik radio.

They also have an independent youtube show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMl_rhYYIec

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


Lucy Biederman is the best bench player of this season

she is funny, has good insights, has an excellent dynamic with Felix (he bursted a lot more genuine lols with her than in chapo overall imho) and sounds very vibrant and enthusiastic, which is a massive contrast considering, well, you know, the other podcasts we discuss haha

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


https://twitter.com/GradyWells15/status/1262820477992656899

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

dead gay comedy forums posted:

most def

I just can't help but to think about the contrast with Ireland, which is something we tend to forget a lot around here. Sinn Féin got stuck in with its principles, played a long game and won anchored in what can be argued as a fundamentally leftist position, while their Labour got a wipeout worthy of François Hollande.

Like, there was a point with Corbyn after his leadership victory (and I just learned more about who the man was), 6 or 7 months, that I remember some collection of all the alleged things about him and made the guy look like the most glorious fucker ever since Labour got founded to lead the party. If Corbyn had even the tiniest killer instinct in him, he would have capitalized on that by inviting Gerry Adams to a pint, sing IRA songs, say that Yasser Arafat did nothing wrong and that the Duchy of Lancaster was going to put out some good rates on property tax because the Queen surely loves her countries

dead gay comedy forums posted:

looking it in a very broad manner, the benefits of left politics as "general welfare, but disregarding the particular" was a rather bad negligence

in terms of culture and general perception of those matters in the West, liberalism won by default as both western socialism and soviet communism didn't gave much of a gently caress on matters of identity until like, the 80s or so, which stuff starts happening like the National Union of Mineworkers in Britain marching in a Pride day and demanding a reform of Labour's charter

(Pride is a good movie warts and all no you are wrong stop it)

in the USSR, attitudes apparently were more of a "lol so what" because the structures in place, even very much flawed as they were in terms of being the bastion of the cause, were better than elsewhere; for example, the USSR still got more women to become doctors, engineers, scientists etc in % of population per year than the entirety of the West because even though its politics were nominal in that sense (discrimination of women in any capacity was a constitutional crime but without a continued cultural effort towards transformation you are still preserving the lovely norms of the past), the material means for education were far more available.

Cuba, likewise, while having unparalleled efforts in terms of public health compared to other latin american countries, had an official medical policy of homosexuality as disorder which lasted until the 70s. LGBTQ people would enjoy an overall benefit of the public infrastructure, but were left aside in the particular.

Liberalism, on the other hand, giving no pretense of what it thinks of minorities, was always very forthcoming in one way: "however, if you hustle and get your money, I guarantee a good time". Against it, there were even some places that considered basic matters of identity to be bourgeois sentiments. Excluding minorities and driving them off from class politics, the only ideology that offered compatibility in a general manner was liberalism - liberals at least offered a public discourse of recognition and defense of rights, even though they wouldn't put their asses on the line for that. But, if you are going to embrace the devil, there is a price to pay.

(A great example of that is how Stonewall has been turned into this great moment of historical struggle through a liberal lens and all social context and structure was discarded in favor of a heroic resistance narrative that, somehow, was not revolutionary in any form)
really good posts



BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 02:12 on May 20, 2020

Prince Myshkin
Jun 17, 2018
Putting all those correct points aside it's also just good strategy for recruitment and movement-building. Hmmm gee I wonder if the people who suffer most in society due to intersectional class- and identity-based oppression might be interested in a politics that promises to defeat both?

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Soup du Jour posted:

endorsing howie as anything beyond a spit in the eye of people who think they can gently caress around and not find out is stupid

i’m voting howie then whatever local candidates seem the least lovely and then just blue for the rest of the ballot

the “i’m holding my nose but you can’t block out the rape stink” strategy

Atrocious Joe posted:

critical support for the "Call Her Daddy" hosts in their struggle against Dave Portnoy

yeah in all matters i believe that “dave portnoy is wrong” generally will serve you pretty well

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.

Gripweed posted:

This is why it's such a tragedy that Ventura isn't running. He's famous and is entertaining enough that he would've been a major figure in the election. He would've occupied a space in ~the discourse~, voting for Ventura would've been an act with actual political meaning.

I really doubt that Howie is going to be able to make voting for him mean anything

IIRC, if he ran he'd lsoe his healthcare and his wife has health issues.

America!

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

if i married my girlfriend she would lose her healthcare and disability, america gently caress yeah

PawParole
Nov 16, 2019

Finicums Wake posted:

probing for a yakubian devils joke? shameful


papa horny michael posted:

is this reversed yet?

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

america is great because the young people want to do radical poo poo like invest in their nation but their parents are like wtf are you dumb don't build up infrastructure, sell what infrastructure is left and buy a jetski and a mcmansion

Salvor_Hardin
Sep 13, 2005

I want to go protest.
Nap Ghost
What's the best method to manage/listen to podcasts on a PC? I've always used my phone but sometimes it would be good to have it on my speakers while posting.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Percelus posted:

america is great because the young people want to do radical poo poo like invest in their nation but their parents are like wtf are you dumb don't build up infrastructure, sell what infrastructure is left and buy a jetski and a mcmansion
speaking of, there's a series of dams failing in central michigan

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*

Salvor_Hardin posted:

What's the best method to manage/listen to podcasts on a PC? I've always used my phone but sometimes it would be good to have it on my speakers while posting.

pocketcasts has a synced web player

alternatively, a bluetooth speaker

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

i say swears online posted:

speaking of, there's a series of dams failing in central michigan

the flooding is so apocalyptic you could see it from space

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Gripweed posted:

Anybody who supported Corbyn, and then supported Sanders, and now is supporting Howie Hawkins lacks basic pattern recognition.

drat... all those Howie Hawkins supporters who think he's gonna win the election sure will look silly

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys
i know this thread isn't actually about podcasts but holy gently caress stav is a king on chapo, more stavcasts all the time

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys
i think what i'm saying is that stav should run for president but only in the election cycle just before he's actually eligible

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Percelus posted:

if i married my girlfriend she would lose her healthcare and disability, america gently caress yeah

when i married my wife her IBR student loans went from $100/month to $1100/month

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Babysitter Super Sleuth
Apr 26, 2012

my posts are as bad the Current Releases review of Gone Girl

socialism has never won by being nice. we need a huey long type, someone who’s willing to call jeff bezos a thieving little bitch on national television and threaten to have mitch mcconnell fed to wild dogs, someone who can take the beating heart of revanchism in this country and manhandle it to productive purpose instead of letting fascists make use of it unopposed

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