Awesome! posted:

we are 8+ years into development of this "game" and the launcher doesnt even check your hdd space when it wants to update. that is absolutely incredible

monkeytek posted:

Please prove to me it is the most complex game ever conceived or built? Right now I see an incomplete single solar system, barebones game loops, horrible AI, poo poo tier Net Code.

Dementropy posted:

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What isn't really considered in this discussion, but is without argument the key factor, is how the scope of Star Citizen should reasonably impact the development timeline.

Here are a few facts:

1. Star Citizen is the most complex video game ever conceived. Nothing comes remotely close.
2. Unlike all the other games you mentioned, which were undoubtedly forced to be released before the devs would have liked for that almighty return on investment, Star Citizen is the first large-scale game to be unfettered from condensing, truncating and otherwise shirking features. The customers have spoken, and the resounding message is: make the game you have in your vision, take what time it takes.
3. Much in the same way Star Citizen has demolished every other game crowd sourcing (actually, every other crowd sourcing of ANY kind), it stands to reason that Star Citizen MUST also eclipse the development cycles of other titles. There really is no fair comparison. Yet, nay sayers will try to compare it. It's a skewed, apples v. oranges comparison.
4. For example, let's take a look at TF2. It took 9 years. Considering how ridiculously simplistic it is at its core, considering the limited art assets, etc., you would need to at least quadruple it, for a same-to-same comparison, for Star Citizen. So, 36 years? Just to be a fair comparison.

Yeah, what isn't being acknowledged is the actual break-neck speed of progress that we are seeing from the CIG development team. Not only are they doing the most ridiculously complex things ever done in a PC game and stitching it all together seamlessly, they happen to be doing it in a way that every other game developer should sit up and take notice of. It's this rapid pace of progress that makes them more akin to NASA getting us to the moon than Blizzard getting D4 out the door.

But confirmation bias is strong in the naysayer community, and they will disregard these facts, clear as crystal, because it challenges their belief that somehow, CIG is taking longer than they should. Interestingly, the first complaints that the game was taking too long came in 2012. They ring just as hollow today as they did back then.


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Yeah I think it is a classical example of what's going on with these FUDsters and the faulty opinions, outright lies and dishonesty they regurgitate in this video to keep their echo chamber going are happening constantly where these people congregate.

The echo chambering is an exact parallel to flat earthers, anti vaxxers and other conspiracy theorists, something that can't be said for the backers, because, you know, they're in the persistent universe every day and they're seeing the features in the game as they get published.

TheAgent posted:

star citizen will hit $80 to $100m in funding this year if the tracker's reporting holds steady at the current trend

double any previous year btw

TheAgent posted:

star citizen will hit $80 to $100m in funding this year if the tracker's reporting holds steady at the current trend

double any previous year btw

communism bitch posted:

When I was a kid I naively bought a copy of Battlecruiser 3000AD, not having heard in advance that it just didn't work at all. I never once got it to run, but it almost didn't matter because it came with this telephone directory sized manual full of in-universe style descriptions of the world and technology and ships and so on. I got far more joy out of my imagination + that book than I suspect I could have ever got out of that jank rear end game, just imagining myself as a swashbuckling spaceship captain exploring the galaxy and sending out boarding parties and becoming the hero of great space battles.

That was fine I guess because I was a lonely 14 year old or whatever, and the game cost £5 out of the second-hand bin at Electronic Boutique. Nowadays Star Citizens are doing the same thing but they're all 45 and they cashed in their 401K and their kids' college funds to get the same experience lol

Mirificus posted:

Quavers posted:

From the leaks discord

It's looking like the landing on planets part of the fleet week fleet stuff was cut to not gently caress up in A18


Simple, routed NPC pathing doesn't work

colonelwest posted:

Lol sounds totally legit to me. Of course it would be their best funding year by far with a global health and economic crisis, no appreciable progress on the game, rock bottom backer confidence, and no new big whale ships for sale.

TheAgent posted:

star citizen will hit $80 to $100m in funding this year if the tracker's reporting holds steady at the current trend

double any previous year btw

quote:

Maybe the money didn't belong to Boiko: the FBI believes the Russian was an intermediary in chains used in the legalisation of money stolen from banks all around the world.

Jonny Shiloh posted:

*cough cough*

Lots of Russki деньги sloshing around the world's money systems right now

Sanya Juutilainen posted:

If SC dies not because of sizzling out or crashing financially, but because FBI freezes their accounts for money muling, I will be amused beyond comprehension.

Dementropy posted:

:

What isn't really considered in this discussion, but is without argument the key factor, is how the scope of Star Citizen should reasonably impact the development timeline.

Here are a few facts:

1. Star Citizen is the most complex video game ever conceived. Nothing comes remotely close.
2. Unlike all the other games you mentioned, which were undoubtedly forced to be released before the devs would have liked for that almighty return on investment, Star Citizen is the first large-scale game to be unfettered from condensing, truncating and otherwise shirking features. The customers have spoken, and the resounding message is: make the game you have in your vision, take what time it takes.
3. Much in the same way Star Citizen has demolished every other game crowd sourcing (actually, every other crowd sourcing of ANY kind), it stands to reason that Star Citizen MUST also eclipse the development cycles of other titles. There really is no fair comparison. Yet, nay sayers will try to compare it. It's a skewed, apples v. oranges comparison.
4. For example, let's take a look at TF2. It took 9 years. Considering how ridiculously simplistic it is at its core, considering the limited art assets, etc., you would need to at least quadruple it, for a same-to-same comparison, for Star Citizen. So, 36 years? Just to be a fair comparison.

Yeah, what isn't being acknowledged is the actual break-neck speed of progress that we are seeing from the CIG development team. Not only are they doing the most ridiculously complex things ever done in a PC game and stitching it all together seamlessly, they happen to be doing it in a way that every other game developer should sit up and take notice of. It's this rapid pace of progress that makes them more akin to NASA getting us to the moon than Blizzard getting D4 out the door.

But confirmation bias is strong in the naysayer community, and they will disregard these facts, clear as crystal, because it challenges their belief that somehow, CIG is taking longer than they should. Interestingly, the first complaints that the game was taking too long came in 2012. They ring just as hollow today as they did back then.


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Supplemental:

:

Yeah I think it is a classical example of what's going on with these FUDsters and the faulty opinions, outright lies and dishonesty they regurgitate in this video to keep their echo chamber going are happening constantly where these people congregate.

The echo chambering is an exact parallel to flat earthers, anti vaxxers and other conspiracy theorists, something that can't be said for the backers, because, you know, they're in the persistent universe every day and they're seeing the features in the game as they get published.

Xakura posted:

I can't even begin to imagine how the faithful will take that

colonelwest posted:

They’d claim that the FBI was bribed by big game publishers to destroy Chris’ transcendent vision before it could be fully realized and put them all out of business. Then they’d start crowdfunding Chris’ legal defense.

Xakura posted:

I can't even begin to imagine how the faithful will take that

monkeytek posted:

Please prove to me it is the most complex game ever conceived or built? Right now I see an incomplete single solar system, barebones game loops, horrible AI, poo poo tier Net Code.

Quavers posted:

https://support.robertsspaceindustries.com/hc/en-us/articles/360000161747-Troubleshoot-the-RSI-Launcher



[i]Currently, the RSI Launcher does not verify the amount of available and required harddrive space against the drive you select.

Mirificus posted:

colonelwest posted:

They’d claim that the FBI was bribed by big game publishers to destroy Chris’ transcendent vision before it could be fully realized and put them all out of business. Then they’d start crowdfunding Chris’ legal defense.

colonelwest posted:

They’d claim that the FBI was bribed by big game publishers to destroy Chris’ transcendent vision before it could be fully realized and put them all out of business. Then they’d start crowdfunding Chris’ legal defense.

Danknificent posted:

it's that video game deep state, man

that's how they get you

Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

https://i.imgur.com/8jTBb4g.mp4

XK posted:

This is the instructions for doing anything on Linux.

Strangler 42 posted:

It's such an out of the blue end to the Star Citizen saga that I think the only thing that could beat it would be if Chris used all that money to build a real spaceship and returned to his home planet of Scamulon 4

Colostomy Bag posted:

Yeah, they'd have to come up with some new term for deleting a .cfg file.

Special Client Setting Reset or something similar.

eXXon posted:

That's kind of a strange and wrong burn considering that they are literally instructions for Windows.