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Crazyweasel posted:lol right wing talking points back on social media (I previously posted about how my chud family hadn’t posted much in a week) they shut down nyc over anthrax
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the loving potus told people to buy duct tape and seal yourself in
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Are there statistically fewer out of work GOP voters applying for unemployment help, or is it about the same? Or is it more? I've wondered that from time to time.
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May 21, 2020 13:42
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Judging by all the bullshit we did after 911 absolutely yes
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/eileeniorio/status/1263210787037904899 Every classroom I've ever been in fits around 9 people in a 6'x6' space. You would have to reduce class sizes by roughly 8 out of 9 people, even running 3 school shifts per day wouldn't be enough to make up the difference in capacity.
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I'm starting to get triggered by "6 feet" and "temperature checks" It's like the collective knowledge never moved on from mid-March.
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May 21, 2020 13:51
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so food not bombs, but it costs money?
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NofrikinfuN posted:Every classroom I've ever been in fits around 9 people in a 6'x6' space. You would have to reduce class sizes by roughly 8 out of 9 people, even running 3 school shifts per day wouldn't be enough to make up the difference in capacity. the CDC guidelines are a pure fantasy at this point
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The school system where my wife works is responsible for like 200k students across the county. The class sizes even now are topping out in the mid-high 30s. There simply isn't the space necessary to cut those sizes in half and still be able to fit/bus that many kids unless they went to like a once a day schedule for a rotation of students. And then you still end up with roughly the same risk of exposure for the faculty.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/1263448114880548865 just waiting for that V-shaped recovery
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:The school system where my wife works is responsible for like 200k students across the county. The class sizes even now are topping out in the mid-high 30s. There simply isn't the space necessary to cut those sizes in half and still be able to fit/bus that many kids unless they went to like a once a day schedule for a rotation of students. And then you still end up with roughly the same risk of exposure for the faculty. if anyone is wondering why the hell american class sizes are so large, its bc theres not enough teachers. and theres not enough teachers bc it pays so poorly. turns out not many people are willing to spend tens of thousands of dollars on an education to start out earning 40k (if that) in an incredibly high-stress job.
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Gio posted:if anyone is wondering why the hell american class sizes are so large, its bc theres not enough teachers. and theres not enough teachers bc it pays so poorly. turns out not many people are willing to spend tens of thousands of dollars on an education to start out earning 40k (if that) in an incredibly high-stress job. Don't forget underfunding that sees teacher's pay shrink when they need to purchase supplies for their classroom.
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May 21, 2020 14:14
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Conde Nast says nobody is back until Sept 8th at the earliest
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all teachers should be tax exempt. then youd get some solid candidates.
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magiccarpet posted:all teachers should be tax exempt. then youd get some solid candidates. The church?
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/1263448114880548865 incredible
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NofrikinfuN posted:Every classroom I've ever been in fits around 9 people in a 6'x6' space. You would have to reduce class sizes by roughly 8 out of 9 people, even running 3 school shifts per day wouldn't be enough to make up the difference in capacity. I think I said last night : you’d need to : quadruple the size of schools and quadruple the number of teachers and busses lmao
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euphronius posted:I think I said last night : lmao
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no. we should not tax exempt classes of workers. that is a stupid rear end thing that we already do too much of. pay people what they are worth, raise taxes on the rich.
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Bruce Hussein Daddy posted:I'm starting to get triggered by "6 feet" and "temperature checks" It's like the collective knowledge never moved on from mid-March. My EMS board still wants me to only wear an N95 if I'm doing an aerosolizing procedure despite good evidence that the disease warrants airborne precautions and the fact that coughing itself is aerosolizing, so like, I get it.
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it’s bigger than quadruple the size of the schools but I’m bad at math
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freeasinbeer posted:no. we should not tax exempt classes of workers. that is a stupid rear end thing that we already do too much of. can you imagine how many consultants would be lobbying to reclassify their jobs as teachers?
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May 21, 2020 14:22
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the funny thing is the easiest fix to american education is to “throw money at the problem” and attract enough teachers so class sizes reduce by 40-50%. even the most incompetent teachers would prove vastly more effective.
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May 21, 2020 14:23
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My company sent out an email saying that almost everyone (50k people globally) will be working from home through the end of September at the earliest I'm never putting on pants with a zipper or a shirt with a collar again and I'm glad of it
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May 21, 2020 14:23
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The easiest fix to American education is to decouple school funding from property taxes. As a non American that makes my head hurt. Give money equally to all schools and then add supplements for each child in poverty, each child with special needs etc.
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Gio posted:the funny thing is the easiest fix to american education is to “throw money at the problem” and attract enough teachers so class sizes reduce by 40-50%. even the most incompetent teachers would prove vastly more effective. well throwing money at the problem isn’t great either. some of the worst urban districts have some of the highest per pupil expenditures, it’s almost like if there is maybe something outside the education system that needs fixing, and that throwing money at it via school systems is super inefficient. a big reason folks didn’t want to shut down schools in places like Baltimore or NYC, is that it provides 2/3 of the meals during the week for kids. which IMO speaks to there maybe being issues outside what the purview of the school system. there is also a funny joke in that the only reason free and reduced school lunches exist is because the army was tired of getting malnourished recruits.
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Got a job email saying working remote but will be on site as soon as legally allowed gently caress YOU Also teachers in Chicago, one of the biggest districts, start at 60k per new contract and make 90k after a decade (but don't really go up from there) plus pension and healthcare. But horrible parents and admin for the most part and burn out is high. The rich suburbs pay even more (one just north of me median is 100k) but it is super hard to get hired there I think at this point it isn't teacher pay but the absolutely rear end in a top hat admins/parents that are the real problems
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Helith posted:The easiest fix to American education is to decouple school funding from property taxes. The county I live in has 1.3 million people and 43 school districts, all funded by property taxes. This clusterfuck is deliberate because it keeps kids segregated by race and income. I lost count of the number of cool young people living in the city who suddenly decided they needed to move to the suburbs for "better schools" once kids entered the equation.
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:Hmm this school problem sounds bad. Thankfully we have Betsy Devos to fix it! Her brother's private air force can drop bombs on the virus.
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Helith posted:The easiest fix to American education is to decouple school funding from property taxes. yes but what about the precious rights of states to let minority students suffer
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:The county I live in has 1.3 million people and 43 school districts, all funded by property taxes. having the kids read The Color of Law in their white flight suburb was certainly eye opening
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Back in the seventies the city of Pittsburgh built a new high school in the southern part of the city, Brashear High, to test what the best way to teach an integrated student body was. the southern white population reacted by picking up and moving 1.5-2 miles to the south into entirely different school districts, lol. Brashear High School (Pittsburgh Public Schools): 67% black Keystone Oaks High School (Dormont), less than 2 miles away: 87% white Mt. Lebanon High School (Mt. Lebanon), 2.5 miles away: 88% white White people will move heaven and earth to keep their kids from going to school with black or hispanic kids.
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Gio posted:the funny thing is the easiest fix to american education is to “throw money at the problem” and attract enough teachers so class sizes reduce by 40-50%. even the most incompetent teachers would prove vastly more effective. erasing poverty would help more but your idea would be good too.
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even if you halve class sizes, if kids are still dealing with poverty it won’t help as much as it could
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freeasinbeer posted:well throwing money at the problem isn’t great either. some of the worst urban districts have some of the highest per pupil expenditures, it’s almost like if there is maybe something outside the education system that needs fixing, and that throwing money at it via school systems is super inefficient.
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in my experience school was just a job you as a student never got any kind of compensation for what im saying is open er up and back to work in the brain mines kids
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euphronius posted:I think I said last night : Jesus, that's like three times as many teachers. E:^^ education should be free. Or at least the first 3 years of chosen studies if its in an area that society needs more of (whether that's trade school or doctor school or comp Sci or teacherology or whatever). Outrail has issued a correction as of 14:49 on May 21, 2020 |
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orange sky posted:I mean kids having to go to tutoring for hours and hours after leaving school from an early age, and being excessively obsessed about grades and college entry, with parents putting enormous pressure on them to overachieve so they can join a chaebol. I can't imagine how this would be good for their mental health, it seems borderline abusive Seniors at the Girls High School I worked at would go home at 11pm. Grades 10 and 11 would leave around 7:00pm IIRC. Unless they were in the non-college track, and then they would leave at like 4:30 to get to a part-time job or apprenticeship that the school hooked them up with. Classes began at 8:30 am. I would leave at 4:30 The girls on the tennis team would be practicing when I arrived. They'd be practicing when I left. When there were exams they would write their names down and color in every answer with C on their paper and then leave to practice. One girl won an international competition in India. They would simply be socially promoted to the next year. Not many people get seriously into sports in Korea, because if you do you either make it big or work at a convenience store for the rest of your life (although the girls have the socially acceptable option of marrying up).
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