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Fellatio del Toro posted:Bull & Branch Yeah, I would have to imagine if we get a Beastmen pack, we're getting the Brass Bull for sure. It's too iconic not to have in there, along with the Minotaur lord choice I hope that if it's wood Elves we get the Prince Oreon, it's a really deep dive compared to some of the other options lore-wise, but his faction is already in game and in an interesting location. Have him go the White Tiger Yan route from 3k and let him sell his services as a mercenary to the other factions. Have him lean less on tree spirits and maybe make him like reverse Avalorn and give him chariots and ballistae and other HE toys to compliment his welf core army.
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Safety Factor posted:I'm like 40 turns into a new Grimgor campaign and I've already taken out Thorgrim's faction. Then I caught some skaven running around one of my cities and next thing you know I got this: It is more fun getting it with Kroq-Gar so you can have a stealthy t-rex running around the battlefield.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:They said that there would be no more race packs for WH2. It has taken about 6 months for this DLC, though it has a ton of content. If they do one more this year I imagine that they would have some downtime between the last DLC and the next iteration of the game. Also there may be a pre-order bonus again, but I doubt that it would be a race pack. I meant the race pack as the pre-order. It's not entirely out of the question, because that's what Norsca was IIRC. My more likely scenario is that there's some oddball lord pack as the pre-order/final WH2 DLC, and that they sneak in a FLC of some kind to address Beastmen/Wood Elves.
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So what's the early game orc answer to dwarf armor? Orc archers with the AP scrap upgrade?
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I'm thinking we get one more proper normal DLC and then the next one after that is pre-order bonus Edit: Sydin posted:So what's the early game orc answer to dwarf armor? Orc archers with the AP scrap upgrade? Nasty Skulkers, Pump Wagons w/ rollers. Aren't basic Trolls t2 now? If so also Trolls.
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Sydin posted:So what's the early game orc answer to dwarf armor? Orc archers with the AP scrap upgrade? Traditionally it was getting a flank with nasty skulkers
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Sydin posted:So what's the early game orc answer to dwarf armor? Orc archers with the AP scrap upgrade? Pump wagons deal armor piercing no?
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Cool, I'll throw some Skulkers into my army.Zzulu posted:Pump wagons deal armor piercing no? How do you get Pump Wagons? I don't see them as an option on any of the building options.
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May 21, 2020 21:47
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Night goblin fanatics was always a later counter to armor and no one ever liked pressing that button.
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Zzulu posted:Pump wagons deal armor piercing no? Yes, pump wagons deal AP + Anti Infantry so they'll hurt dwarves bad. If you get the rollers it also sunders armor and makes everything else better. Skulkers are also a pretty good hammer unit in general and can even catch shock cav and hold it in place while your other units pound on it.
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Sydin posted:Cool, I'll throw some Skulkers into my army. They are in the t2 version of the goblin workshop (where you get the artillery units) Basic Pump Wagons are t2, the variants are t3
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DeathSandwich posted:I'm thinking we get one more proper normal DLC and then the next one after that is pre-order bonus I've only played to Karak Zorn with Grom but yeah, with trolls, pump wagons and skulkers dwarfs ain't poo poo now. roll over stunties choo choo 
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Also keep in mind one of the troll scrap upgrades is literally liquoring them up with booze to give them +15 leadership. Trolls are kind of rad now in general. Edit: I'm going to work through the Grom campaign first, but I'm really chomping at the bit to give my boy Skarsnik a go this patch. Pump Wagons + Trolls + Squig hoppers without research should really help give him some more bite. DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at 21:58 on May 21, 2020 |
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DeathSandwich posted:They are in the t2 version of the goblin workshop (where you get the artillery units) Basic Pump Wagons are t2, the variants are t3 Huh that's weird, for me it only shows catapults. Are they a DLC unit? I'm just playing with the free patch stuff right now.
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I started as Imrik and took the province near mine and the Dragon Isles. I'm now pinned in by a twenty four settlement Grimgor. The Greentide is real.
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Are the pump wagons more like chariots where you have to micro them or are they like the doomflayers where they kinda do their own thing once engaged
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I'm a bit disappointed that the new high elf lords still have the regular vortex campaign Although if the turn times really are as improved as people are saying then maybe I'll actually be able to finish a mortal empires campaign for once
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:Are the pump wagons more like chariots where you have to micro them or are they like the doomflayers where they kinda do their own thing once engaged They're like Doomflayers. Actually I'm pretty sure they litterally reuse the animations from the Skaven Bell mounts Grey Seers can get.
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Sydin posted:Huh that's weird, for me it only shows catapults. Are they a DLC unit? I'm just playing with the free patch stuff right now. They are. So are skulkers for that matter, from a prior WH1 era DLC. E: without either I think your best option for early AP is probably trolls. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 22:10 on May 21, 2020 |
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Sydin posted:Huh that's weird, for me it only shows catapults. Are they a DLC unit? I'm just playing with the free patch stuff right now. Yes, they're a DLC unit.
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They are like doom flayers, where you can use them as chariots for better effect. You don't have to if you don't want as they are still good even left in combat.
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Sydin posted:Huh that's weird, for me it only shows catapults. Are they a DLC unit? I'm just playing with the free patch stuff right now. Yes they are a dlc unit.
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Ah, there you go. I wanted to try out the new faction mechanics a bit before committing to buying DLC. Might do so down the line.
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Is there a good way to re-roll the traits of lords I have in the pool? I saw a kroxigor ancient with Pompous one turn but when I looked again / reloaded the save he was gone.
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Mr Snips posted:I'm a bit disappointed that the new high elf lords still have the regular vortex campaign Imrik does, but Eltharion's is unique.
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Looks like they really did boost some of the lame influence traits. One I don't even remember noticing before is now -10% army upkeep, +1 army recruit rank, +2 hero and lord recruit rank faction wide. It's going to be hard to beat the one trait that massively buffs missile spam but at least there's options now, and less encouragement for tedious campaign map hero spam.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:+2 hero and lord recruit rank faction wide.  That sounds amazing, being able to produce even level 16 lords instantly just to get their dragon mount would help so much. I rarely get generic lords up to dragon level.
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Grom is a fun campaign. The food merchant wants me to cook her pie, what recipe is that?
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The dlc seems to be a bit buggy. I can't recruit trolls anymore even though I have the building ..
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terrorist ambulance posted:Grom is a fun campaign. The food merchant wants me to cook her pie, what recipe is that? Quiches. Apparently there is a fight between certain groups of people if a pie is a quiche or a quiche is a pie.
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Zzulu posted:The dlc seems to be a bit buggy. I can't recruit trolls anymore even though I have the building .. Did you try restarting the game?
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Third World Reagan posted:Quiches. Thanks! Also, explosive goblin arrows are HILARIOUS.
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Goblin archers with the AP scrap upgrade seem to be amazing? I'm starting to feel sorry for dwarfs, i have so much which can kill them.
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If you are playing as High Elves, note that most of the starting traits have been reworked. Should be some interesting new combinations there. Also, Imrik is ridicously OP if you can get past the rough start. Currently rocking 900 weapon strength, around 140 armor and melee attack and melee defence both above 100. Combined with super strong buffs. Probably the strongest fighter in the game right now
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Did you try restarting the game? Yeah, didn't work. Can't build pump wagons anymore either ...
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Zzulu posted:Yeah, didn't work. Can't build pump wagons anymore either ... Which province/campaign is it?
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I got the soft crash when I hit the declare Waaagh button. Shame, I wanted to crush Settra.
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Eagerly awaiting the inevitable mod that replaces Grom's lines with Gordon Ramsay. 
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