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Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy
except for anesthesiologists, they are just assholes playing with magic

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shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

Admiral Ray posted:

yeah doctors are workers

the specialists typically have ownership shares in a practice right, like they're capitalists, they're using a cartel and regulatory capture to extort insane healthcare prices from ppl

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
You can do half the work geolocating somebody just by the spite they carry: chuds, computer touchers, etc.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

Homeless Friend posted:

You can do half the work geolocating somebody just by the spite they carry: chuds, computer touchers, etc.

yeah the fact that i hate both definitely doesnt make NC a hard place to guess i live at

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Admiral Ray posted:

yeah doctors are workers

pol pot proved this

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Mourne posted:

household income of half a million a year?

that’s upper class to me.

6.5 figgies is $316k. this was the result of one of the longest-running debates in yospos history.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

6.5 figgies is $316k. this was the result of one of the longest-running debates in yospos history.

i wish i made this, i shoulda been a loving toucher, i hate them for wfh

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

shovelbum posted:

the specialists typically have ownership shares in a practice right, like they're capitalists, they're using a cartel and regulatory capture to extort insane healthcare prices from ppl

yes, and even lots of others have shares

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

6.5 figgies is $316k. this was the result of one of the longest-running debates in yospos history.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!

shovelbum posted:

i feel like a qualified toucher will never be "poor as gently caress", it might just not be like 250k starting salaries

I dropped out of high school, have no certifications, and only have an associates degree I got in 2010 lol

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

ArmZ posted:

yes, and even lots of others have shares

yeah i mean doctors work together to

a) artificially create a doctor shortage
b) lobby to prop up the cost of healthcare to $america
c) own their own businesses and have subordinate non-owner employees

there is labor being done but i dont think you can say theyre the same as the guy working at the hog factory or we

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

shovelbum posted:

the specialists typically have ownership shares in a practice right, like they're capitalists, they're using a cartel and regulatory capture to extort insane healthcare prices from ppl

yeah for things like specialist practices that happens. as far as i know the ones that work at hospitals don't set the healthcare prices, though. i'm not actually sure where most doctors work.

Star Phlatulence
Jan 14, 2006

by Cyrano4747
Bleak Gremlin

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

6.5 figgies is $316k. this was the result of one of the longest-running debates in yospos history.

i need to see this. how do i see this.

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

zegermans posted:

I love how this forum is like 50% extremely poor people struggling and 50% beltway people making six figures

I could make six figures but I'd have to be at a pharma company where I'd hate my life (I'm a biostatistician in an academic environment)

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

Admiral Ray posted:

yeah for things like specialist practices that happens. as far as i know the ones that work at hospitals don't set the healthcare prices, though. i'm not actually sure where most doctors work.

like i know a lot of younger doctors who are less fatcatty so idk maybe its a generational thing from what i hear

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Gonna pillpill myself

actionjackson
Jan 12, 2003

Mourne posted:

household income of half a million a year?

that’s upper class to me.

yeah I'm pretty sure you need like a bit over 400K/year to be in the top 1% lol

Morbus
May 18, 2004


lol

Mons Hubris
Aug 29, 2004

fanci flup :)


slopJoe 2020330 posted:

i need to see this. how do i see this.

I would also like to see it

Mourne
Sep 1, 2004

by Athanatos

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

6.5 figgies is $316k. this was the result of one of the longest-running debates in yospos history.

that exceeds my household income.

where I live that’s upper class money. I will admit I can see how that might not go very far depending on your circumstances and whatever housing costs in your area.

Say you have a wife, two kids and a large dog. How much is the PITI/rent on a 3+ bedroom 1800 sq ft place in the Bay Area?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

kater posted:

I woke up this morning and realized I don’t even like beans
*hand hovers over probate button*

Jon Irenicus
Apr 23, 2008


YO ASSHOLE

three hundred thousand dollars a year is inconceivable to me

people might as well be living in a different world

PyPy
Sep 13, 2004

by vyelkin
Dallas county and Tarrant county are neighboring counties. Was looking at covid numbers for the county and something was weird, so compared election results and populations.

Dallas' local leadership is Democrap, and Tarrant's local leadership is Republishit.

Population
Dallas County: 2.6 MM
Tarrant County: 2.1 MM

2016 Election Results
Dallas County: 61.1% D
Tarrant County: 52.2% R

Covid-19
Dallas County: 8,273 cases, 203 deaths
Tarrant County: 4,803 cases, 139 deaths
:eyepoop:

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Mourne posted:

that exceeds my household income.

where I live that’s upper class money. I will admit I can see how that might not go very far depending on your circumstances and whatever housing costs in your area.

Say you have a wife, two kids and a large dog. How much is the PITI/rent on a 3+ bedroom 1800 sq ft place in the Bay Area?

in San Fran you can expect that to be between about $4k - $8k a month for rent. for PITI more like $6.5k.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Cybernetic Vermin posted:

6.5 figgies is $316k. this was the result of one of the longest-running debates in yospos history.

its simple math, correctly done

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Jon Irenicus posted:

three hundred thousand dollars a year is inconceivable to me

people might as well be living in a different world

This is what gets people initially, they're right but also wrong in how totally different their lives are. Dealing with people who own $700 t-shirts is my highbar so I'm inured to it lol

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison

Mourne posted:

that exceeds my household income.

where I live that’s upper class money. I will admit I can see how that might not go very far depending on your circumstances and whatever housing costs in your area.

Say you have a wife, two kids and a large dog. How much is the PITI/rent on a 3+ bedroom 1800 sq ft place in the Bay Area?

like 4-5k a month

kitten emergency
Jan 13, 2008

get meow this wack-ass crystal prison
if covid does anything good for the world, it will be in destroying landlords/home values in places like the bay area

knobgobblin
Oct 28, 2010

got a bone to pick

Jon Irenicus posted:

three hundred thousand dollars a year is inconceivable to me

people might as well be living in a different world

Oh, they do

Jon Irenicus
Apr 23, 2008


YO ASSHOLE

Homeless Friend posted:

This is what gets people initially, they're right but also wrong in how totally different their lives are. Dealing with people who own $700 t-shirts is my highbar so I'm inured to it lol

my entire wardrobe, including my funeral suit, is probably less than $700

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators

Homeless Friend posted:

This is what gets people initially, they're right but also wrong in how totally different their lives are. Dealing with people who own $700 t-shirts is my highbar so I'm inured to it lol

These people are in a range where money gives them more purchasing power but not real power so they all burn it on stupid conspicuous consumption like this. Fancy clothes, infinite car money sink, overpriced wine, liquor, and cigars. The main difference beyond their collection of shinies is that they don't have to worry about not being able to afford necessities.

PyPy
Sep 13, 2004

by vyelkin

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

6.5 figgies is $316k. this was the result of one of the longest-running debates in yospos history.

it really came down to metric vs imperial figgies, iirc

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Jon Irenicus posted:

my entire wardrobe, including my funeral suit, is probably less than $700

The worst part about it is that its not even like space age stuff, it's like a $50 t-shirt and $650 branding (and yes $50 t shirt is already at the lol level)

Notorious R.I.M. posted:

These people are in a range where money gives them more purchasing power but not real power so they all burn it on stupid conspicuous consumption like this. Fancy clothes, infinite car money sink, overpriced wine, liquor, and cigars. The main difference beyond their collection of shinies is that they don't have to worry about not being able to afford necessities.

yep, it's all class indicators

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

shovelbum posted:

yeah i mean doctors work together to

a) artificially create a doctor shortage
b) lobby to prop up the cost of healthcare to $america
c) own their own businesses and have subordinate non-owner employees

there is labor being done but i dont think you can say theyre the same as the guy working at the hog factory or we
I think this makes them petite bourgeoisie. They align themselves with the haute bourgeoisie ideologically and attempt to do so socially, and they exploit labor, but they do not have enough accumulated capital to just be a capitalist.

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

6.5 figgies is $316k. this was the result of one of the longest-running debates in yospos history.

slopJoe 2020330 posted:

i need to see this. how do i see this.
I too want to see how someone could end up so wrong. Even at the lowest estimate, with 6 figgies being 100k and 7 figgies being a million, you end up at 550k for 6.5 figures. $316K is like 6.2 figgies at most, so claiming it as 6.5 figgies is clearly yospos trying to steal valor from people richer than themselves. Their brains have turned to mush through excessive bourgeois morality.

Squizzle posted:

its simple math, correctly done
Figgies are not a simple measure of power, given that any given figgy covers a range of numbers where there's a factor ten difference between the high and low end.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

*hand hovers over probate button*
People can't be held responsible for corona-induced loss of taste!

knobgobblin
Oct 28, 2010

got a bone to pick
waited nearly two months for my UI claim to be denied, its been real fun having just moved to a new city with no job lined up 2 weeks before the service industry shut down

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

uncurable mlady posted:

if covid does anything good for the world, it will be in destroying landlords/home values in places like the bay area

it will just concentrate more wealth in places like that and hands like those op

Mourne
Sep 1, 2004

by Athanatos

there wolf lmao posted:

waited nearly two months for my UI claim to be denied, its been real fun having just moved to a new city with no job lined up 2 weeks before the service industry shut down

this poor soul makes zero figgies

:(

A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Mourne posted:

this poor soul makes zero figgies

:(
According to yospos that's $0.1

Irradiation
Sep 14, 2005

I understand your frustration.
316k is halfway between 100,000 and 1,000,000 on a log scale. That's all there is to it.

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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

shovelbum posted:

yeah i mean doctors work together to

a) artificially create a doctor shortage
b) lobby to prop up the cost of healthcare to $america

yeah it's definitely not medical schools and insurance companies doing this

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