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Shageletic posted:is dominic cummings the guy who suggested that everyone die and then ended up sprinting from 10 downing st when Boris got corona? Psalm 117 is the middle chapter of the KJV Bible.
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Guavanaut posted:Yes. lol. the man can't stay still!
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May 23, 2020 23:06
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We’re going to find out it’s all a simple mistake on the satnav , just like that taxi driver who drove a couple from London to Stamford bridge, not the football ground
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Jel Shaker posted:We’re going to find out it’s all a simple mistake on the satnav , just like that taxi driver who drove a couple from London to Stamford bridge, not the football ground except Cummings driving to Durham actually happened
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May 23, 2020 23:08
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May 23, 2020 23:16
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wonder whose idea it was to switch from STAY HOME to STAY ALERT 
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May 23, 2020 23:29
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I for one am shocked at how this government [recently awarded a large majority after 10 year of austerity, 2 years of general chaos and 3 months after unlawfully proroguing parliament] seem to think they can do what they like!
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https://twitter.com/abiwilks/status/1264323358843420678?s=21 Getting flashbacks of the previous time people had @‘d Laura K and Bobby P about a story only for them to sit on it for weeks (the NHS-America trade deal leaks?)
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May 23, 2020 23:36
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May 23, 2020 23:41
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Amazing. Every word in that paragraph is both completely true and a blatant lie.
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May 24, 2020 00:06
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baka kaba posted:wonder whose idea it was to switch from STAY HOME to STAY ALERT whoever it was, they got paid a loving fortune to come up with it
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May 24, 2020 00:16
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I wonder what the actual game being played here is. I don't believe for a second that the oligarchs who own the newspapers give a solitary poo poo about one of the oligarchs in the government breaking the rules.
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They know that the proletariat (a) won't give a poo poo (b) will bend over backwards to defend their social betters (c) will use it as an excuse to say 'gently caress social distancing' and retroactively justify the herd immunity bullshit (d) will do all of the above
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May 24, 2020 00:27
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Gort posted:I wonder what the actual game being played here is. I don't believe for a second that the oligarchs who own the newspapers give a solitary poo poo about one of the oligarchs in the government breaking the rules. Being a teacher, there are definitely some in the groups that think this was used to cover up the fact that both SAGE & Independent SAGE came out to say that they don't support the 1st June date.
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May 24, 2020 00:30
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So it's an attack on the lockdown regulations themselves, effectively? Yeah, I could see that.
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Gort posted:So it's an attack on the lockdown regulations themselves, effectively? Yeah, I could see that. And it works even better because "Look, he had it, and ignored lockdown, and was fine, so shut up and get back to work proles"
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May 24, 2020 00:33
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Gort posted:I wonder what the actual game being played here is. I don't believe for a second that the oligarchs who own the newspapers give a solitary poo poo about one of the oligarchs in the government breaking the rules. the whole "lockdown" situation doesn't seem like it pleases anyone - some people think it's nowhere near enough, it's being selectively applied and keeps people at risk while pretending it's all cool and measured and Very Sensible. Other people think it's stupid and outrageous and everyone needs to Get Back To Work and My Fredoms!!! the tory papers especially are in the latter camp, they're already pretty mad that Johnson isn't bussing teachers into schools in prison vans. The BBC keeps pushing the idea that the lockdown needs to end and anyone against that is playing politics. So using domcum as a flashpoint is like exerting pressure on the government in the most direct indirect way, especially when they know how important he is to Johnson Either they make an example of him, or they crumble and let the regulation fall apart because they won't actively defend it. It's like a litmus test - is the lockdown important, or isn't it? Do we need to be doing it, or can we just stop pretending and get all the addicted feckless scroungeworkers back into their jobs? And maybe buying a few papers again???
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Gort posted:I wonder what the actual game being played here is. I don't believe for a second that the oligarchs who own the newspapers give a solitary poo poo about one of the oligarchs in the government breaking the rules. Honestly I'd guess a lot of these guys want him gone just so they can go back to government advisors sharing secrets over drinks like they're part of the same old boys club instead of this cold egghead who talks down to them dictating what they should print tomorrow via Whatsapp message.
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May 24, 2020 00:41
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I bought some chocolate biscuits today. Apparently they're "Toast and Marmalade" flavour. Something has gone wrong with this timeline.
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May 24, 2020 00:46
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Nettle Soup posted:I bought some chocolate biscuits today. Apparently they're "Toast and Marmalade" flavour. sounds like they're trying to trick Miftan with some marketing psychology how are they though?
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May 24, 2020 00:49
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I'd try it.
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Apraxin posted:A Corbyn comparison isn't really apt, From a shitlib perspective they are comparable figures in a lot of ways that's apt
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May 24, 2020 00:53
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They're actually pretty good. I found them in the discounted shelf of the co-op.
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I mean I wouldMiftan posted:I'd try it. drat it works!!
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sounds like it'd be jaffa cake-ish which is fine McVities do strawberries and cream digestives though and there is where I draw the line
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I'd try those. I oddly ended up enjoying those yoghurt coated skittles they sold.
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Bacon Terrorist posted:Thanks for your kind words. Yeah it's all so complicated with this and then there is the standard misinformation spreading everywhere on the back of it too. Unfortunately the police have actually remanded my cousin in custody until a court appearance on June 19th for 'peverting the course of justice' by 'falsely accusing persons of rape' despite the fact she was beaten so badly she was in intensive care and her attackers tried to cut a finger and a breast off. At least her attackers can't get to her in the meantime I suppose. Maggie Oliver, the detective who was whistleblower on the Rochdale cases is getting involved which seems to be a good thing though it'll probably turn out she believes in muslamic ray guns or something. What on earth is going on here? I've been seeing all sorts of stuff outside of the official media saying something weird and hosed-up is happening in Barrow but it's difficult to tell what's real and what isn't any more.
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Guavanaut posted:It's one of those ones you may have had in the background at school if you went to one that had assemblies in the local church where children in white gowns chant in Latin while a man in a cassock swings an incense burner and the vicar insists that this is definitely not Roman Catholic because we had a Reformation you know. Oh hey. High church represent. I remember always being late for assembly on Wednesdays.
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Beefeater1980 posted:Oh hey. High church represent. I remember always being late for assembly on Wednesdays. gently caress the pope low church represent 
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May 24, 2020 03:07
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So it sounds like London is similar to San Francisco and it's just too expensive.
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Bacon Terrorist posted:Thanks for the pointers, I believe her Father was looking into a specialist solicitor last time I spoke to him. There is a lot of evidence in the form of pictures of her injuries with dates taken in hospital and (not sure how credible they are evidence wise) screenshots of internet chat logs showing coercion followed with threats etc so it at least exists to that extent. There are quite a few firms whose specialism is actions against the police and their services should be looked into if at all possible; they'd be best placed to advise. nurmie posted:I was sort of aiming Rochdale, Rotheram et al with the police corruption stuff specifically, but there's no doubt police can be extremely weird about investigating sex-related crime, or domestic stuff. Worse, it seems to somehow span cultures and countries. I honestly wonder if there's any research on the topic of wtf is going on with that Guavanaut posted:there's also all the poo poo with confiscating mobile devices from people reporting rape and sexual abuse that's ostensibly about "discouraging false reporting" but is more likely to stop genuine survivors coming forward, especially if they've poo poo scared that they'll get in trouble themselves for unrelated things like drug offences. Rape exists at a nexus of a lot of different issues that makes it particularly difficult, even when it's not being committed by people with the power to influence the criminal justice system in their favour (the implications of which are its own post, so never mind them for the moment). Rape is one of the most serious offences there is, but it's mostly investigated by single officers with heavy caseloads. It's also one which relies almost entirely on proving what was in both the defendant and the complainant's mind at the time. You can't defend yourself against allegations of robbery or murder by saying "yes, it all happened, but they agreed to let me do it". Most rapes take place in messy, unclear circumstances which can easily be interpreted in more than one way. Then you start bumping up against something which people ITT would usually be heavily in favour of, because it was introduced as a measure to prevent police obtaining unsafe convictions by misconduct. These are the relatively new rules about the police duty to investigate lines of enquiry that may point to a suspect's innocence as well as lines that may indicate their guilt, and the requirement for the police and prosecutor to disclose anything obtained during an investigation that might assist the defence or undermine the prosecution case. Disclosure issues, where the prosecution has something important that undermines its own case and (whether through malice, carelessness, or incompetence) doesn't tell the defence about it, are still the single biggest cause of miscarriages of justice, and many of those obvious miscarriages of justice have been in rape cases. This is why you get "we need to know what's on your phone". The need to prove what was in the victim's mind as well as the suspect's in cases of rape provides a compelling need to go into both their digital lives. Distasteful though it is, text messages/instant messages/Twitter DMs/etc sent in the minutes/hours/days/weeks before and after the event are going to help people make inferences about what might have been in the victim's (and suspect's) mind while it was happening. Some of them might be helpful to the prosecution, some of them might be helpful to the defence, most of them are probably irrelevant; but in the context of any other crime, nobody would ever stand to hear the police say "well, we knew about this massive source of potential evidence for finding out what happened, and we didn't look at it". It's a horrible problem, we may well need separate rules of procedure and evidence for rape cases to square this circle, and I'd love to hear a serious proposal for what might be done here. And then you bump into society's systemic issues with sexism and victim-blaming and so on - in that context, how are an overworked police officer and an overworked prosecutor supposed to decide which conversations undermine their case? If they come across something on the victim's phone that might lead Colonel Blimp, Mrs Curtaintwitcher, and Dapper Laughs on the jury to think "well, she's a trollop, she must have been gagging for it", should they obliged to disclose it and help the defendant build a morally questionable defence? If they find the victim discussing their own rape fantasies with a friend, is that disclosable? If they find the victim discussing their own rape fantasies with the suspect, is that disclosable?
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Son of Rodney posted:
The ancients knew.
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Also unfortunately BT it looks like your story has escaped onto twitter and is doing the rounds among the usual sort. Hopefully it sorts the cops out but loving hell about your family being caught in the crossfire.
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OwlFancier posted:I like that the intolerable thing is that they're losing political capital, not, like, the actual bad things. I suppose if everyone else is saying the quiet pay loud he might as well ask why the gently caress they are we destroying their credibility for one man. Also important to note that he really wants to end the lockdown and follow the "Swedish model"
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