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Paperhouse posted:I'm pretty out of the loop Lots of people are following the guidelines at great personal cost and they're cross.
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May 24, 2020 20:57
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Necrothatcher posted:please please please, we shouldn't lower ourselves with incorrect gossip  Fair play, I'm mixing things up with Wellington's attributed famous quote; "The pig was hosed on the playing fields of Eton"
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May 24, 2020 20:58
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I'm also not sure it's just going to be a universal "well we're all going to go outside now" response because a lot of people are keeping distance because they personally believe it's important for their own safety.
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May 24, 2020 20:58
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Pretty sure these ghouls are going to brazen this out. I'd be happy to be proved wrong
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May 24, 2020 21:00
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HopperUK posted:Lots of people are following the guidelines at great personal cost and they're cross. i think people are going to get really angry soon, nevermind when the second spike hits
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May 24, 2020 21:00
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biglads posted:Pretty sure these ghouls are going to brazen this out. I'd be happy to be proved wrong It's interesting because it didn't surprise me in the slightest but I phoned my ma earlier and she was livid about it and she generally doesn't pay much attention to politics. I think it's a big deal for people who still somehow have a modicum of faith/trust in the government
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May 24, 2020 21:06
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Paperhouse posted:I'm pretty out of the loop Whilst loads of people have in raw numbers, proportionally it wasn't that much of the country - a far greater proportion seemed to genuinely make an effort to follow the guidelines, WFH or be furloughed, only go out when it's essential, etc. An awful, awful lot of people have gone through some degree of hardship in the last couple of months, and granted a lot of those people have suffered nothing more than some boredom and cabin fever - but there's also a lot of people who cancelled weddings, couldn't attend funerals and/or had to say goodbye to a dying person online instead of in person (And by implication had to let loved ones die without friends or family around), had major and long-planned events like a dissertation defense or moving house or the like disrupted, and have missed more modest but still personally meaningful events like the grandkid's tenth birthday and whatnot. This has definitely gone far beyond the thread and similar places like the Drowned in Sound negaverse thread, and even Twitter. Dom Cum is getting heckled in the street by regular folks.
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May 24, 2020 21:06
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Paperhouse posted:I'm pretty out of the loop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Auq9mYxFEE Sky News Live. I know they are poo poo, but its a good indicator whats being beamed into people's rooms right now. It's been constant on it since it happened. And they are slagging Boris to hell and back. All flouting the rules are scumbags. Dom is worse as he made up the rules.
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May 24, 2020 21:06
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Like if this is some master plan to make people ignore the lockdown I don't think it's going to work very well because they've done a very good job of making a lot of people think the lockdown is important, in part by killing fifty thousand people.
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May 24, 2020 21:10
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#booforboris is trending with lots of suggestions of replacing the poo poo clap with an organised boo lol i've never seen this https://twitter.com/JaneyGodley/status/1180909924341211136?s=20
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May 24, 2020 21:18
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https://twitter.com/luke_duff/status/1264645503687503878?s=20
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May 24, 2020 21:22
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OwlFancier posted:Like if this is some master plan to make people ignore the lockdown I don't think it's going to work very well because they've done a very good job of making a lot of people think the lockdown is important, in part by killing fifty thousand people. There’s also the nhs imploding. They can’t ignore that. The problem wasn’t capacity, it was staff. They can’t just fill every bed and ignore it. We simply don’t have the doctors and nurses. The nhs would collapse and people would notice.
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May 24, 2020 21:23
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As others have noted I think this is still them trying to media manage their way out of an actual problem. And they can't. Like they can mitigate damage here and there but they can't actually maintain the situation they want to.
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May 24, 2020 21:26
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Paperhouse posted:I'm pretty out of the loop poo poo loads of people missed their kids being born, learning to walk, learning to talk, etc, and missed grandparents dying of rona, passing away, big milestone birthdays, funerals, etc. Then you find out the guy making the rules decides he doesn't need to follow them? This is really upset a lot of people, boris's "it was for his kids!!!" just doesn't cut it when other people have been in the same situation and were isolating, rather than driving 260 miles to visit at risk, elderly relatives.
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May 24, 2020 21:28
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https://twitter.com/harrytlambert/status/1264650700883136514?s=19 Um.... I don't think this is the defence you think it is
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May 24, 2020 21:36
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He seems like the kind of bloke who got bounced on an uncle's knee well into his teens imo :/
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May 24, 2020 21:38
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Julio Cruz posted:with a 4-year-old in the back? You calling me a Tory? No, I don't have kids, but when I was little we'd do London to Wincanton and back as a day trip - in my dad's lovely Lada that was easily over 4 hours each way, non-stop (shittiness of Lada permitting). We'd also do London to Cornwall in one hit, although my parents were smart enough then to leave at like 2am to "beat the traffic", but actually so we'd be asleep most of the way.
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May 24, 2020 21:40
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Jose posted:lol i've never seen this I thought Necrothatcher was younger than that
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May 24, 2020 21:43
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The Perfect Element posted:So this must all have to do with the fact that Johnson and the rest of the cabinet was aware of what Cummings was doing at the time, and at best tacitly endorsed it. I'm willing to bet there's more than one minister who's had to make similarly "brave" choices, plus Boris recuperating at Chequers and I don't think anybody believes he's actually staying in Number 10 every night.
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May 24, 2020 21:45
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Ziggy Tzardust posted:https://twitter.com/harrytlambert/status/1264650700883136514?s=19 lol why on earth would you mention that, even if it wasn't the reason he went up there how did the master spin wizard forget to tell his parents not to talk to journalists
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May 24, 2020 21:46
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Amazing ratio on a story that was supposed to build sympathy for him.
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May 24, 2020 21:51
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https://twitter.com/spacebar69/status/1264656206670553088?s=21 lmao, holy poo poo.
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May 24, 2020 21:52
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https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1264660059222573057 when the Heil is sticking the boot in
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May 24, 2020 21:52
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Maybe we underestimated big brain Cummies. If this was all a ploy to re-unite the country after Brexit, it’s worked perfectly.
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May 24, 2020 21:55
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What's a svengali?
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May 24, 2020 21:58
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Just spoke to my neighbour who said her friends in Durham had spotted him out and about a total of 4 times
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May 24, 2020 21:59
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1264660059222573057 And at the top, touting pseudoscience cures at the same time! Tabloids being tabloids
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May 24, 2020 22:01
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OwlFancier posted:What's a svengali? It's a polite term for a Harvey Weinstein.
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May 24, 2020 22:02
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Yeah I don't think this is just going to go away like they want to. If Boris doesn't sack him people will then turn their rage towards BoJo and he'll gently caress himself politically. It's pretty perplexing given the fact that Boris can weather most storms and come out unscathed. Cummings must have some serious dirt on him. Is there a Conservative Cabinet leaving in disgrace/sacked pool here because good lord they just can't help themselves. It seems like months ago Conor Burns resigned over fraud. I'm willing to put some money on Dominic Goings. Necrothatcher posted:I just saw this so you have to as well: Welp this is now in my brain forever 
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May 24, 2020 22:03
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The Cosby Mysteries posted:Cummings must have some serious dirt on him. How about its more likely is that he's the only one he trusts. The rest would gladly stab him in the front if they could take over. Cummings is keeping them all at bay with his Malcolm Tucker Darth Pilkington routine.
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May 24, 2020 22:11
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Pretty pleased with my thread title contribution, think it's only my second or third in a loving decade of posting in this cess pit. Love you guys.
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May 24, 2020 22:13
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So Dom Cummings' excuse is that he needed to find appropriate childcare, right? Should the senior advisor to the PM be able to make some phonecalls and sort something out? I mean, the guy's best friend is literally the PM, surely they could find a babysitter or a way to get him to Durham without Dom going? Can't they bung him in an RAF chopper or something?
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May 24, 2020 22:15
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OwlFancier posted:What's a svengali? A controlling individual who dominates and manipulates another for their own ends. Named after a character in du Maurier's Trilby.
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May 24, 2020 22:15
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1264660059222573057 https://twitter.com/Dempster2000/status/1264661519083716608 lmao. worst paper you know makes a good point
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May 24, 2020 22:17
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It's odd that the right wing papers were talking about Johnson's illness/recovery like he was the loving second coming just a few weeks ago. Now they're acting like they've been waiting ages for the chance to stick the knives in.
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May 24, 2020 22:17
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OwlFancier posted:What's a svengali? a person, almost always a man, who uses uncommonly skillful and occasionally (in fictional tales) supernatural influence to exert total control over another, usually to their apparent gain but eventual ruination. occasionally (well, more than occasionally) has unfortunate racial undertones especially since the original Svengali tale was contemporary with Rasputin, but in this case is perhaps appropriate because the original Svengali abused the Irish Wormtongue from LOTR is an archetypical svengali, given that very few people know or care about the 1895 novel "Trilby" edit: beaten by looking things up and not refreshing Crion fucked around with this message at 22:26 on May 24, 2020 |
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May 24, 2020 22:21
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stev posted:It's odd that the right wing papers were talking about Johnson's illness/recovery like he was the loving second coming just a few weeks ago. Now they're acting like they've been waiting ages for the chance to stick the knives in. They have. They always have. The only thing better for them than a hero is a hero you get to slay afterwards.
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May 24, 2020 22:23
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OwlFancier posted:You could just do what I would do and only be a poo poo to someone you'd be willing to take responsibility for the death of. I meant more the bootlicker jabbering on about causing Boris's death being someone I might have dunked on but am not trying to be better. While I mostly agree with that, the problem is that I want everyone to be less of a oval office to strangers and "being willing to take responsibility for the death of" is an alarmingly low barrier online. I just got really hit hard by this young woman not even in her prime yet offing herself because of horrendous people and my only conclusion was "we need to better" & I guess that has to start with me. Perhaps a liberal outlook but 
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happyhippy posted:How about its more likely is that he's the only one he trusts. If that's the case Boris needs to have a long think about if he's worth it. The ragsheets will turn on him and then what? It's political suicide to not sack him. He's hosed.
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