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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Every character is awful and unlikable except the Cambodian girl Even she is ruined by the end.
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May 25, 2020 12:02
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oldpainless posted:As soon as Jonah hill wasn’t fat he instantly became unlikeable and unfunny. Maniac was good tho.
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May 25, 2020 13:02
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Mister Kingdom posted:Even she is ruined by the end. Unfortunate but not surprising. I didn't make it that far, by the third episode I was mainly bored with occasional bouts of "holy poo poo that was SO BAD" and switched over to a good show (What We Do in the Shadows) I might finish it because it's only 7 episodes and eventually I'll get curious, but wow. I'm surprised literally anyone watched this show and told them it was funny and should be on TV. e: Agreed on the "Super CEO" bit being kinda funny. There's a small handful of jokes and bits that kind of work, in spite of everything else.
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May 25, 2020 17:04
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ReidRansom posted:Maniac was good tho. Maniac was really good. The first episode was perfect.
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May 25, 2020 17:32
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I regularly think about how tons of shows like supernatural or teen wolf or whatever ruthlessly baited fangirls over whether a boy would kiss another boy at some point (this never happened), eventually closing out the shows with less same-sex smooching than occurred between smithers and mr burns
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May 25, 2020 19:27
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Pick posted:I regularly think about how tons of shows like supernatural or teen wolf or whatever ruthlessly baited fangirls over whether a boy would kiss another boy at some point (this never happened), eventually closing out the shows with less same-sex smooching than occurred between smithers and mr burns So now you're into incest porn?
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May 25, 2020 20:45
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Slowpoke Rodriguez posted:So now you're into incest porn? i don't think pick was identifying herself as part of that group, so much as pointing out that the group existed, was very large, and was actively poked by the show regularly
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May 25, 2020 20:55
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:i don't think pick was identifying herself as part of that group, so much as pointing out that the group existed, was very large, and was actively poked by the show regularly Yeah it’s a fact those shows found out about those groups and catered to them to a degree
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May 25, 2020 20:58
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:i don't think pick was identifying herself as part of that group, so much as pointing out that the group existed, was very large, and was actively poked by the show regularly Doesn’t Supernatural have some really messed up fans, going to the extent to harassing their real life partners as they’re getting in the way of their dream Sam/Dean (or I suppose Jenson/Jared) pairing?
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May 25, 2020 21:00
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Slowpoke Rodriguez posted:So now you're into incest porn? Pretty sure she meant Dean/Castiel (An Angel, not his brother) who they did queerbait awhile. They never ever hinted at Sam/Dean on the show and thankfully have been pretty quick to make fun of those fangirls on the show and shut that down.
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May 25, 2020 21:04
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Slowpoke Rodriguez posted:So now you're into incest porn? no? it's all with the angel guy. I don't care about this show but the fandom deffo got baited by twitter over it. I just find it incredibly ironic that for all the tooting of horns about inclusivity that was used to get impressionable people on board who don't know showrunners are liars, they never achieved literally the amount of smooching between smithers and mr burns
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May 25, 2020 21:06
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it's like when you watch Hatari! and realize that you had female characters in 60s john wayne movies as strong or stronger than the female characters now whose entire body of promotional material is how strong they are
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May 25, 2020 21:13
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i can agree, in spirit, that even in the most chauvinistic eras of cinema/television you sometimes had solidly written female characters whose strengths often vastly exceed those of modern empowered women, and surprisingly back then this wasn't even a selling point yet nowadays watered down sexism is over female characters are received with great triumphs but truly the past was a mixed bag behold: a full action sequence devoted to following john wayne, shown here with terminator levels of determination, in his quest to spank his wife over a marriage spat and both the town and film itself approves of it as the right way to keep women in line https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU0jMZ5zVtk
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May 25, 2020 21:40
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Koalas March posted:Pretty sure she meant Dean/Castiel (An Angel, not his brother) who they did queerbait awhile. They never ever hinted at Sam/Dean on the show and thankfully have been pretty quick to make fun of those fangirls on the show and shut that down. When did they hint Dean/Castiel?
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May 25, 2020 21:42
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Sorry, I was making a dickish joke based on my over awareness of certain segments of Supernatural fandom.
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May 25, 2020 22:04
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Captain Monkey posted:Maniac was really good. The first episode was perfect. Maniac is great, and it woulda been fantastic if they toned it down like 10%. The show excelled in sci-fi world building and empathy and it didn’t reeeeaaaaally need a big fight scene Really ambitious and cool all the same
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May 25, 2020 22:21
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MariusLecter posted:When did they hint Dean/Castiel? I haven't watched with any dedication since season eleven so memory is kinda hazy but I def remember Cas dying (for awhile) and Dean keeping his jacket or something in the trunk of the car and smelling it brokeback mountain style. Also iirc Cas and Dean's actresses in the all girls school play are dating or something? Or had them together in the play? I can't remember lol You should definitely Google it, I'm sure there's 860,0847,253 gifsets on Tumblr and a well documented list of their every interaction. Or articles about Supernatural & queerbaiting and they'll explain it much better than me and be actually helpful lol
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May 25, 2020 22:32
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Supernatural is, legitimately, the greatest show about two monster hunter brother and their totally useless angel friend hanging out exchanging angry and longing glances in a triangle while insisting they’re fine that aired for fifteen seasons.
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May 25, 2020 22:42
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And before it’s pointed out, yes I’m aware of the low budget remake that Germany made from 2012-2014
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May 25, 2020 22:43
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oldpainless posted:And before it’s pointed out, yes I’m aware of the low budget remake that Germany made from 2012-2014 Don't sell it short I'm scared of it because the fanservice is two brothers loving each other I only have the one brother and he's into the supernatural as well  That's why I watched Angel instead
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May 25, 2020 22:49
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oldpainless posted:Supernatural is, legitimately, the greatest show about two monster hunter brother and their totally useless angel friend hanging out exchanging angry and longing glances in a triangle while insisting they’re fine that aired for fifteen seasons. It set out to be what it was and excelled to perfection. The dunking on fans started as early as season 5 and they kept it up rather consistently throughout the years. The highlight was a 4th wall breaking episode where the characters jump realities where they are the actors and are loving confused as hell about why people keep shipping them online. They also show Sam clowning on Dean by showing up the old soap opera scenes of Jensen.
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May 25, 2020 22:53
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Jesus loving christ, that "resolution" is some DeviantArt rear end poo poo. Woman who seems more annoyed than actually violated, having her blurt out the phrase 'this humiliation', the large crowd gathering in glee, including small children with big ol smiles on their faces. The only way it could get
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May 25, 2020 23:31
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SomeJazzyRat posted:Jesus loving christ, that "resolution" is some DeviantArt rear end poo poo. Woman who seems more annoyed than actually violated, having her blurt out the phrase 'this humiliation', the large crowd gathering in glee, including small children with big ol smiles on their faces. The only way it could get Spanking scenes used to be fairly common and they were all weird as gently caress. There's an article I read about them but 
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May 25, 2020 23:37
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it was a weird little trope where yes, a manly man could in fact be married to a very assertive woman and not lose face by 'only' being an equal in relationship, but he would have to flex his dominance by overpowering and spanking his wife every once in a while (she secretly likes this) it definitely wasn't all that common but it occurred enough that modern commentators tend to see that as strong women having to face some kind of retribution in media in order to keep the delicate scales of male ego balanced
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May 25, 2020 23:48
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It must be a genre thing, because the True Grit remake has Matt Damon tell the fourteen year old girl he *was* going to kiss her in her sleep, but she’s such a bitch he wants to spank her instead.
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May 26, 2020 00:01
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Supernatural rules, it has so many hunks. If you're watching a show for the hunks it's probably the #1 show for you.
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May 26, 2020 00:16
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In all seriousness, I loving love Supernatural
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May 26, 2020 00:21
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Torquemada posted:It must be a genre thing, because the True Grit remake has Matt Damon tell the fourteen year old girl he *was* going to kiss her in her sleep, but she’s such a bitch he wants to spank her instead. He does spank her, iirc, when she first follows the guys at the ferry crossing. Rooster decides he doesn't like it and threatens to shoot him.
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May 26, 2020 00:45
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Koalas March posted:Pretty sure she meant Dean/Castiel (An Angel, not his brother) who they did queerbait awhile. They never ever hinted at Sam/Dean on the show and thankfully have been pretty quick to make fun of those fangirls on the show and shut that down. "They do know that we're brothers?" "That doesn't seem to matter." Supernatural broke the fourth wall better than any show I've seen, in ways I hadn't even thought of. The ultimate was in The French Mistake, when Misha Collins appeared in the show as a Twitter obsessed parody of himself and live tweeted in synchronicity with the episode airing - twice, once for each coast.
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May 26, 2020 00:48
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The creator of My Name Is Earl created an account on the Television Without Pity forum under an alternate identity, and posted on the boards for like a solid year just so they could have that account belong to a character who dies in an episode of the the show.
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May 26, 2020 01:10
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Push El Burrito posted:Supernatural rules, it has so many hunks. If you're watching a show for the hunks it's probably the #1 show for you. Seasons 1-5 of Supernatural are legitimately awesome and overall I enjoy the whole show despite some iffy bits. However if you want a Show of Hunks you need to check out Riverdale. It’s also just pretty good if you like earnest schlock.
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May 26, 2020 02:02
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hard counter posted:i can agree, in spirit, that even in the most chauvinistic eras of cinema/television you sometimes had solidly written female characters whose strengths often vastly exceed those of modern empowered women, and surprisingly back then this wasn't even a selling point yet nowadays watered down sexism is over female characters are received with great triumphs Or The Quiet Man where he grabs a woman by the hair and drags her across all of Ireland
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May 26, 2020 02:08
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Ricky threatens to spank Lucy a lot and actually does in one episode that I know of.
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May 26, 2020 02:10
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Push El Burrito posted:Supernatural rules, it has so many hunks. If you're watching a show for the hunks it's probably the #1 show for you. Yeah, yeah Angel didn't really do that that well I'm trying to think of a genre show with lots of hunks and coming up shorts Grey's Anatomy, gently caress no that was a real disappointment in the hunk dept Uh, yep, that's probably your go to show Supernatural doesn't sell it for me but hey, everyone chime in with your hottest hunk fest show, 3, 2
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May 26, 2020 02:12
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christmas boots posted:Or The Quiet Man where he grabs a woman by the hair and drags her across all of Ireland You should also notice that it is the same women in both films (Maureen O'Hara.)
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May 26, 2020 02:46
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SneezeOfTheDecade posted:Holy cow. I scared up and watched the first episode out of morbid curiosity, and the best thing I can say about it is that the joke at the very beginning - where Richard calls Julie up and is performative about how he adopted her while obviously knowing nothing about her - I can see coming out of Rusty Venture's mouth. The rest of the episode - gently caress, this should have cost Jonah Hill his career. I thought it did, so I checked the IMDB and.....wow, Jonah Hill's career is pretty loving sad. Since Allen Gregory, the only thing he's really been in is the two Jump Street remakes and some voice acting. One episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, but that was as himself and not really playing a role. His whole career after Allen Gregory seems incredibly sparse. I wonder if it did kill his career. I recall him being the face of a Call of Duty game or something weird and even since then pretty much nothing. Maybe he was just one of those guys who gets roles in his friends' films and that's it.
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May 26, 2020 06:18
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Also a major role in Wolf of Wall Street which got him an Oscar nom. I didn't see Maniac but it seems to have been well regarded?
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May 26, 2020 06:28
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:I thought it did, so I checked the IMDB and.....wow, Jonah Hill's career is pretty loving sad. Since Allen Gregory, the only thing he's really been in is the two Jump Street remakes and some voice acting. One episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, but that was as himself and not really playing a role. Uh... He was in this little movie called The Wolf Of Wall Street? For which he got an Oscar nomination? To say nothing of the Lego Movie and the other Oscar nomination he got. Jonah Hill is doing fine. E:f,b
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Mad Doctor Cthulhu posted:I thought it did, so I checked the IMDB and.....wow, Jonah Hill's career is pretty loving sad. Since Allen Gregory, the only thing he's really been in is the two Jump Street remakes and some voice acting. One episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm, but that was as himself and not really playing a role. He was in Wolf of Wall Street after Allen Gregory, and was nominated for an Oscar for that (fake edit: gently caress, beaten), he also had small roles in Coen Bros and Tarantino movies. Plus those Jump Street movies were pretty well received from what I remember. He may not be as prolific as he once was, but his career is far from being dead.
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