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ILL Machina posted:How are you guys generating enough defense on watcher in high sec without helix? Watcher has some of the best defense cards in the game. Wallop and talk to the hand are obscenely good. For more reliable defense, every deck should have at least one protect. It's one of the best common cards watcher has. Deny reality is solid filler too.
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ugusername posted:Pyramid Pain is a big big nono. In general Pain Rupture is not that good of scaling engine. Maaaaaaybe with Reaper in the deck already and even then. Yeah I thought I could make up with it for Singing Bowl, Feed, Eternal Feather, maybe turn in the idol for Bloody Idol. Mmmmmnope. When I drew my starting hand and it had Pain but Rupture was nowhere to be found, it kind of sunk in that I was in trouble. 
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May 23, 2020 20:19
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Cpt_Obvious posted:Watcher has some of the best defense cards in the game. Wallop and talk to the hand are obscenely good. For more reliable defense, every deck should have at least one protect. It's one of the best common cards watcher has. Deny reality is solid filler too. protect+ is such a startlingly good card
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May 23, 2020 20:21
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Zvahl posted:protect+ is such a startlingly good card It's a little shocking, when you compare it to flame barrier which blocks for the same amount. Like, FB is really good if it shows up on the exact turn that you need it, but protect is just ALWAYS solid because of how drat reliable it is.
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May 23, 2020 20:24
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Protect+ is so great it makes Establishment one of the best rares in the game.
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May 23, 2020 20:24
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MJeff posted:Protect+ is so great it makes Establishment one of the best rares in the game. Establishment is so much fun if you have a Meditate or two.
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May 23, 2020 20:35
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Perpetual Hiatus posted:I was smashing through the game last night with Silent, dead branch, shiv generators, all attacks do poison, all poison +1 etc etc. While I was watching something on the other screen. I collected all the pieces for the heart battle before the end of act II - because I thought I was at the end of act III. What ascension? I just experienced the madness of dead branch shiv Silent on A5 for the first time and scored my third silent heart kill. It was pretty much autopilot the whole time, just watching a pretty light show, with all the random crap I was spewing out - after image was big though.
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May 23, 2020 20:45
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I don't know if it's been mentioned in the thread yet, but an important piece of info that might help: After 3 normal hallway fights in a single act, future hallway fights within that same act are now "hard". That means the tougher mobs and harder groups start coming out. So, always try not to have more than 3 hallway fights in a single act unless you have, like, feed or lesson learned.
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May 23, 2020 20:46
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ugusername posted:Pyramid Pain is a big big nono. In general Pain Rupture is not that good of scaling engine. Maaaaaaybe with Reaper in the deck already and even then.  
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May 23, 2020 20:49
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I was wondering, "How the gently caress did he win with two thunderclaps?" And then I saw the champ's belt...
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May 23, 2020 20:52
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I don't know if it's been mentioned in the thread yet, but an important piece of info that might help: In act 2 & 3 it's only the first 2 hallway fights. Realistically you're not going to dodge all of the harder hallway fights, and you don't necessarily want to - unless you've got a really tight deck going you probably want the card draws (and gold + potions don't hurt either.) But yeah, it's one of the many reasons you do want to keep the number of hallway fights down, especially in act 2 (gently caress the avocado.)
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May 23, 2020 20:54
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Wow nice man! Honestly really good deck. How good was Pandora? MJeff posted:Yeah I thought I could make up with it for Singing Bowl, Feed, Eternal Feather, maybe turn in the idol for Bloody Idol. Mmmmmnope. What were you boss relic choices? Like a post above you could make it work later in the run but it really needs support with a lot of draw and immediate health gain. Reaper I mean one of the best Ironclad cards period.
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May 23, 2020 20:59
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Cpt_Obvious posted:I don't know if it's been mentioned in the thread yet, but an important piece of info that might help: The easy pool is actually only 3 fights in act 1. In act 2 and 3, the easy pool is 2 fights. However, I'd say it matters less in act 3. The darkling fight is in both pools, and can definitely kill you. Triple jaw worms is in the act 3 hard pool though. But in general, I don't think you're fighting enough hallway fights if you try to fight 7 for the entire run (3 easy fights in act 1, 2 in each of the next acts). It's usually good to fight exactly 3 fights before fighting the first elite in act 1, but beyond that, it's hard to make some kind of hard and fast rule about how many hallway fights you should be taking. Sometimes the gold and card rewards are worth it, and you might also want to take more hallway fights if you have Feed, Lesson Learned, or Ritual Dagger. Cpt_Obvious posted:I was wondering, "How the gently caress did he win with two thunderclaps?" And then I saw the champ's belt... The belt was nice, but less important than the insane strength scaling (I routinely hit 50+ strength), the reaper, and the Self-Forming Clay. Every time Pain dinged me for 1, Clay blocked for 3 on the next turn. ugusername posted:Pyramid Pain is a big big nono. In general Pain Rupture is not that good of scaling engine. Maaaaaaybe with Reaper in the deck already and even then. I'm quoting you again to be unironic here. Of course what you posted here is correct the vast majority of the time. It was just super amusing that I had that 1 in 500 run where Pyramid/Pain was not just OK, but actually very very strong, and then I came here to post about it, and saw a quote about how Pain/Pyramid is terrible (which, of course, it usually is).
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May 23, 2020 20:59
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ugusername posted:Wow nice man! Honestly really good deck. How good was Pandora? IIRC, I got both Ruptures and the Combust from Box, and after that I had a plan.
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May 23, 2020 21:00
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ugusername posted:Wow nice man! Honestly really good deck. How good was Pandora? I don't remember, but I don't think the other two were very good. Like, if Snecko or one of the good energy relics had been there, I'd have probably taken that.
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May 23, 2020 21:23
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 I got so much great poo poo in this run, even got to trade Blood Vial for Bites and the game just had to ruin it by not giving me any good block. :[
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May 23, 2020 22:14
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Do people like trading blood vial for bites? I usually tell the vampires to piss off anyhow, unless for whatever reason I'm still stuck with most/all of my starting Strikes. Bite's a good card but I don't want 5 of them.
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May 23, 2020 22:18
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And on the very next run - Take Curse and a Rare Relic from Neow, she gives me Du-Vu Doll. - Get the Warped Tongs event, figure what the hell, it's Warped Tongs and +1 strength and take it. - Then the chest gives me Tungsten Rod. Sometimes stuff works out! Straight White Shark posted:Do people like trading blood vial for bites? I usually tell the vampires to piss off anyhow, unless for whatever reason I'm still stuck with most/all of my starting Strikes. Bite's a good card but I don't want 5 of them. I like Bite (especially in that deck when I was trying to get HP loss and strength stuff - I was hoping to find Combust and Rupture), I just hate giving up max HP. I usually say no thank you to Bite and Apparition because of that, but yeah, I'll trade the vial for it.
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May 23, 2020 22:29
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Apparition is amazing and usually worth the HP trade, I just don't like how much the bites clog up my deck. This is rarely an issue with Apparition because if you draw Apparition you get to stall for a turn and get a whole new hand to work with, so on balance Apparition generally lets you get further into your deck to find key cards. Meanwhile if you draw into a bunch of bites that's not going to keep you alive against any threat worth caring about.
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May 23, 2020 22:48
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i normally make the trade if i have a way to gain max HP, or if i'm seriously wounded, or if i have the blood vial, or if i have the attack egg, or if i inexplicably am suffering for decent basic attacks and have been removing curses instead of strikes. i tend to take it more on ironclad/watcher than silent/defect adding a conditional +1 damage and +2 block to all your strikes isn't too bad sometimes
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May 23, 2020 22:52
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I usually take apparition unless there is a very good reason not to with my current setup, or if I'm super confident that I dont need to. I only take the bites if I'm currently under half health and still have most of the starting strikes in the deck as a general rule of thumb.
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May 23, 2020 23:26
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Besides number of strikes left in deck, being really good at stalling (for example with disarm/malaise/lots of frost orb block) also increases Bite value a lot since you can heal a lot in some fights by sticking to Bites alone. And obviously Molten Egg makes Bites generally very good unless you've removed a lot of strikes - and even then, a strength-scaling Ironclad might want them.
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May 23, 2020 23:32
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Man, Gremlin Nob is such a nightmare for Defect. I feel like that's gotta be one of the worst specific character-enemy interactions in the game from the player perspective.
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May 24, 2020 05:17
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Has there been any news about what the developer is doing next?
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May 24, 2020 05:30
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I just checked Mega Crit's Twitter and Facebook pages, and I already usually check the Slay the Spire subreddit once a week or so. As far as I know, no news since Watcher was added to consoles.
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MJeff posted:Man, Gremlin Nob is such a nightmare for Defect. I feel like that's gotta be one of the worst specific character-enemy interactions in the game from the player perspective. I find nob to be harder for Silent. You absolutely need an attack like compile driver/ball lightning/cold snap though.
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May 24, 2020 06:26
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The only newish thing to come is the mobile release, but that still seems to be in limbo.
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SuperKlaus posted:What ascension? I just experienced the madness of dead branch shiv Silent on A5 for the first time and scored my third silent heart kill. It was pretty much autopilot the whole time, just watching a pretty light show, with all the random crap I was spewing out - after image was big though. Ascension 4. After Image definitely would have helped. So much dumb fun though hey!
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KonvexKonkav posted:I find nob to be harder for Silent. You absolutely need an attack like compile driver/ball lightning/cold snap though. Totes agree for this, because I want to be skill heavy with silent. There's no problem for defect in Act 1 that can't be solved with more ball lightening. That and cold snap are probably the best common attacks in the game?
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May 24, 2020 13:12
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pretty much. i reckon ball lightning could lose a couple points of damage and still be good
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Blasphemy from Neow + Ragnarok from Gremlin Nob + Ragnarok from Attack Pot = You Are Nothing achievement on Hexaghost.  And now I've ruined three attempted Who Needs Relics runs in a row by clicking on a relic accidentally. 
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May 25, 2020 20:56
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Reminds me of the run where I used my two Omnisciences to play double Worship+Ragnarok on turn 1. I think I had a Bag of Marbles, too. Did someone here play Monster Train? I saw it being recommended by jorbs and I wonder if it's good.
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May 26, 2020 06:10
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it's good, a lot more swingy than sts. the default difficulty is way lower but it ramps up as you ascend pretty nicely
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KonvexKonkav posted:Reminds me of the run where I used my two Omnisciences to play double Worship+Ragnarok on turn 1. I think I had a Bag of Marbles, too. It's a lot of fun. It's not quite as good as STS but it's super close. I was kind of tempted to make a thread for it.
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ImpAtom posted:It's a lot of fun. It's not quite as good as STS but it's super close. I was kind of tempted to make a thread for it. Someone did make a thread for it right here https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3924690 Personally I've found it really fun. There's a really good variety of playstyles across the five different tribes. I also love that they have some more randomness at the beginning. The fact your starter deck is going to be 12 cards you know then 2x commons from both your tribes and a 1x uncommon from your main tribe means you have a lot of variety in the early game. It means its more swingy than Spire, but its definitely interesting and forces you to interact with cards you might never pick.
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I like it a lot. Once you get into the 'covenants' (basically ascensions) you have to embrace absurdly broken builds to do well. Up to covenant 4 so far.
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Chairchucker posted:I like it a lot. The whole game is "get a broken build or die". On the other hand, broken builds aren't too hard to make. The game has greatly improved since the open beta though. On the other hand, I don't see it having much longevity. Everyone on Twitch is playing it now, but a month or two ago everyone was playing Iratus and last night the Iratus directory had 13 viewers. If you want a reasoning for that: Celerity is streaming as I write, and he's reached C13 without loss. Now he's a very good player of games, but can you imagine coming fresh into STS and immediately jumping to A10 without losing? I can't. E: He lost on C13. But I figured he would from floor 1, he didn't get a strong start. Jedit fucked around with this message at 09:51 on May 26, 2020 |
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Does the Steam version of STS have Cloud Saves? Meaning that I can seamlessly switch between two devices and keep my progress and even better jump in and out of my current run? I currently have STS on the Xbox Game Pass for PC from a promotional three months that I have and from what I can see it's a real PITA in how it manages the save games. So much that I'm considering actually purchasing the Steam version for quality of life benefits. Barring that, has anyone come up with a clever way of managing their save games across multiple devices? Perhaps re-routing the save game directory to something cloud based like Google Drive? Effectively I want to be able to bounce between my Desktop (while working from home, it's nice to do during conference calls) and my Laptop to enjoy the nice weather outside! Appreciate any insight on this.
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TraderStav posted:Does the Steam version of STS have Cloud Saves? Meaning that I can seamlessly switch between two devices and keep my progress and even better jump in and out of my current run? It does
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I too have been enjoying Monster Train, and finding that it scratches a similar itch to StS. It's still a bit rough around the edges in a few spots, but it's a lot of fun regardless and it looks like they intend to continue working on improving it. I'm pretty confused by the poster a few pages back who compared it to Rogue Legacy though. Like... what?
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