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I'm about 10 pages behind on this thread trying to catch up but I saw a bunch of love for the Boss Katana amp and I'm curious about it. I have been using a VHT Special 6 Ultra for 8 years or so with a bunch of pedals. I have a Boss ME-50 that I use with headphones when I don't want to rock the house. I have always liked Boss and think I could see switching my VHT and pedal setup for a Katana. Is the Boss Katana-50 MkII 50W 1x12 Guitar Combo the one everyone has been talking about here? I see there is a newer Artist model at 100W but for a home player, that is likely way overkill. I thought I would see what the thread thought.
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Pitre posted:I'm about 10 pages behind on this thread trying to catch up but I saw a bunch of love for the Boss Katana amp and I'm curious about it. I have been using a VHT Special 6 Ultra for 8 years or so with a bunch of pedals. The 50W is probably good enough, but the 100W adds an FX loop, extra patches, and another feature or two. The Artist ones are pretty cool too, but the cheaper ones are the ones a lot of people rave about. It probably could replace a lot of your gear, but I’d probably hang onto the ME-50 if nothing else. Nice to have some footswitches and knobs you know.
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Nice, thanks for the input. I would definitely get the Boss GA-FC Guitar Combo Foot Controller add-on to be able to switch between configs. I haven't dug into the videos or online manuals yet to see what kind of learning curve it all has but that will just be part of the fun of a new rig! I probably have a good $600 worth of stuff to sell (not including the ME-50) to recover funds to shift to this platform. I wouldn't mind if the only pedal I keep is my trusty TC Polytune 3.
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Thanks for those tips, boosting the mids helped! One more: Can you think of resources that aggregate and teach all of the tricks and techniques idiomatic to the guitar that make the instrument sound more alive and articulate than if you were to just play one note at a time plainly? I'm pretty comfortable with bends (the Guthrie Govan masterclass on those is fantastic!), slides, a few types of vibrato, all of which to me are "decorations 101". But I suspect that's just scratching the surface of what there's to explore in terms of embellishments and breathing life into leads. My leads sound certainly better than playing plain notes, but they're still nowhere as rich and interesting to listen to as the performers I really like.
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Gnumonic posted:Check out that book that I linked in my last post. I think it's way easier to get the gist of why counterpoint is useful/important if you avoid the rules used by classical composers at first and follow a simpler set of conventions. Are there any good books on the history of this sort of thing, I know Adam Neely recommended some massive tome on harmony that's probably got a large chunk of this in it somewhere but I learn best when I can track the development or history of things, and understanding what baroque started with and what and being able to conceptualize how the theory morphed into what we have to day would really be more helpful to me than just "here are some rules, just learn them". The idea that we didn't have chord changes to harmonize over at this period really fascinates me and I'd like to understand what the rules were (outside of temperament which accompanies this).
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DreadCthulhu posted:Thanks for those tips, boosting the mids helped! One more: A lot has to do with timing things just right. And that doesn't always mean precisely on the beat, but where it feels right. After that, look into how hard you hit the strings. Use force to emphasize a note and create a dynamic sound with softer notes in between. Next comes the fancy stuff like pick angles, where you hit the string and stuff like that, and finally pinch harmonics. And your probably already covered hammer ons and pull offs. Those are pretty basic too.
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DreadCthulhu posted:Thanks for those tips, boosting the mids helped! One more: Take a single line of notes. Say a lick that has 6 notes in it. Play it with a clean or overdriven sound, something with dynamics and clarity. Take that core lick and try using everything BUT changing the notes to switch up the vibe. Maybe slide up into the first note, switch the emphasis to a note that initially felt unimportant, play the entire phrase in a different position (Rick Beato has a recent video about this), staccato a few notes in the middle, prebend one of the notes and then bring it back as you pick it, slowly transition from a soft light pick stroke to a firm cutting one by the last note. Try that out, throw the bones of a lead line in your workshop and try to stretch it in every possible direction without changing up the note order. A talented guitarist can make a bog standard 4 note scale run have loads of character.
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I just had the rare opportunity to play for like an hour with my AC30 turned up a little bit since nobody else was home, and while it was really fun, holy guacamole the thing is ridiculous and I wish I had more sense when I was 18 and got a valve amp with less headroom and less 80lbs or whatever
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Thanks for that, all solid advice. Something I should also do more of is cover the solos of people whose work I admire and absorb their toolbox. I know there are random licks and tricks I still remember from years ago when I was obsessing with covering Opeth that seem to be always there in my fingers. I'm making some 80s inspired tracks now and there's nothing better than early Steve Lukather as far as classic leads go, you can listen to those parts your whole life without getting tired of them. I don't know wtf happened to him since then, the playing live seems all slurred and wanky, but those classic contributions he made are timeless. And yes, I think you guys are spot on, a lot of this isn't necessarily about lumping more technique into the toolbox. It won't hurt, but you can get very far with very little as long as you do it well and tastefully. The one quirk I've run into is that if you're adding guitar to 80s electronica that's always 100% on beat, because of synths and various LinnDrum machines, the guitar sticks out like a sore thumb if it's not timed just right. You don't have the more generous range of acceptable timing when playing with a human band.
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CHUCK WAS TAKEN posted:I just had the rare opportunity to play for like an hour with my AC30 turned up a little bit since nobody else was home, and while it was really fun, holy guacamole the thing is ridiculous and I wish I had more sense when I was 18 and got a valve amp with less headroom and less 80lbs or whatever yeah i played my ac10 at about 50% yesterday and it felt like it was scouring my skin off, which owned
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bad posts ahead!!! posted:yeah i played my ac10 at about 50% yesterday and it felt like it was scouring my skin off, which owned Man I can't wait to get an ac15c1 with a loadbox, this will be epic 
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Build a volume box with two input jacks and a audio taper pot and crank up for those sweet tube tones a bedroom level.
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I set my AC15 with the normal channel gain 3-5 and the volume 3-4 and it sounds great. Definitely more balanced with the volume above 4. Tone cut maxed when using humbuckers
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90% of my guitar playing is with headphones on and like 5% I’m not even plugged into anything
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lazerwolf posted:Build a volume box with two input jacks and a audio taper pot and crank up for those sweet tube tones a bedroom level. Mine is a custom classic from like 2007 so it has a master volume, and I do actually like the way the preamp sounds in overdrive, but to make it actually sound like an ac30 you need an empty house, ear plugs and a bunch of really freaked out cats or I guess an attenuator but that's not a purchase I feel like I could ever justify I'm using it as like a pedal platform with the master turned all the way up and then you just lightly brush an angel feather across the normal channel volume until you can hear the guitar which lets you be in the same room with it if you have to I can't exactly figure out what to do with the tone cut knob, cause it sounds better to my ear turned up most of the way at like 3pm, but I feel like it sounds more like a Vox if you can restrain yourself from doing that, but then it also makes your ears feel like blood is gonna start pouring out any second, but not in a bad way? I guess I like both sounds And another thing is it has a switch that says "Brilliance" which seems to do pretty much the exact opposite of what I would expect. I've wondered if it's on in the position where I think it's off, but according to anything I've been able to find online that's not the case e: Also idk if you guys like That Pedal Show, but I keep coming back to this moment where Mick rolls up the volume knob https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E85LAMc0iEs&t=1304s I can't get enough of that sound. I have a strat now, but I don't have a fuzz face and I pretty much had to swear an oath not to spend any more money on guitar this year. Maybe I can make one out of clearance parts from a Radio Shack that's shutting down or something CHUCK WAS TAKEN fucked around with this message at 08:24 on May 26, 2020 |
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CHUCK WAS TAKEN posted:Mine is a custom classic from like 2007 so it has a master volume, and I do actually like the way the preamp sounds in overdrive, but to make it actually sound like an ac30 you need an empty house, ear plugs and a bunch of really freaked out cats or I guess an attenuator but that's not a purchase I feel like I could ever justify I run my CC TB channel with Treble at about 3 I clock but Cut all the way off; you get the bite, but the Cut trims off the super high end. The other trick is if you're only using one channel then turning the other channel all the way up will defeat the bright cap on both of them. I don't use the bright switch much but I'm pretty sure you're right and that it's wired opposite direction to the other switches on the amp. I rented a vintage seventies AC30 on a fly date last year and it was fantastic, but also super clean until it got to ungodly volumes. I think the venue was about 4000 cap but I couldn't even get it into proper winding up territory without pissing everyone else off. Was still a glorious pedal platform but happier with my CC1 to tell you the truth!
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Wowporn posted:90% of my guitar playing is with headphones on and like 5% I’m not even plugged into anything My katana 100 has never been off the .5w setting due to apartment dwelling.
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i love my champion 100 but lol, i havent had it up past mayyyybe 1.5 on the master. I live in a detached structure in a neighborhood that doesn't give a gently caress, but i don't want to damage my beautiful old cat's ears. heh
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Jonny 290 posted:i love my champion 100 but lol, i havent had it up past mayyyybe 1.5 on the master. I live in a detached structure in a neighborhood that doesn't give a gently caress, but i don't want to damage my beautiful old cat's ears. heh Hey, just cuz they're a cat don't mean they're a pussy
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I just don't want any of the people in my apartment building to hear my awful playing or my add tendency to stop whatever I'm doing to play Birth in Reverse every 9 minutes Also I want a double neck guitar so I can tune one neck up a quarter step to make really annoying sounding riffs
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I got rid of my Fender deluxe 112 in favor of an Orange Terror Stamp because 90% of my playing was through headphones or not even connected to the amp. At some point I might get a cab but I pretty just much gently caress around on my own these days. I really like the Terror Stamp though. My entire rig fits on a pedal board.
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When I practice most of the time I play my peavey classic vt 4x10 combo amp with the preamp gain turned to 3.5 and the master gain at 2. Barely on, and it definitely sounds better when cranked. I’ve been looking at small tube combos lately.
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Another reason I love my Katana. With the wattage selector and the Master basically being a "Take the gain and volume settings and their dynamics and just make it louder / quieter" knob, you can get the break up you want messing with the gain + volume knob, then adjust to presence of roommates, cats, neighbors, etc. with the wattage and master.
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skooma512 posted:Oh man that Terror Stamp is sick. It's so compact. It also led me to this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok7ofTh_WUA
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Lumpy posted:Another reason I love my Katana. With the wattage selector and the Master basically being a "Take the gain and volume settings and their dynamics and just make it louder / quieter" knob, you can get the break up you want messing with the gain + volume knob, then adjust to presence of roommates, cats, neighbors, etc. with the wattage and master. 100% this is why I love it. I am thinking of saving up for an attenuator for the jcm800 to fill in for the tones the katana doesn't really like to do, as it somehow doesn't really like putting pedals in front of it or in the effects return so using the HM-2 and SF-300 has proven to not be an option
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Spanish Manlove posted:100% this is why I love it. I’ve only used a wha and reverse reverb in front of it and it took those great. I am happy with the boosts / drives / fuzzes it comes with to where I haven’t felt the need to use an external. EDIT: I’d be interested in hearing the sound of those pedals with different amp models and gain/ volume settings. Seems odd that it wouldn’t take them well, as I have read lots of folks saying they do, but obviously they might not be using those two. What sound are you targeting? Lumpy fucked around with this message at 02:41 on May 27, 2020 |
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This thread makes me want to get rid of my HRD for a Katana.
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Lumpy posted:EDIT: I’d be interested in hearing the sound of those pedals with different amp models and gain/ volume settings. Seems odd that it wouldn’t take them well, as I have read lots of folks saying they do, but obviously they might not be using those two. What sound are you targeting? I feel like I can answer that question for Spanish Manlove since those two Boss pedals both only do one thing and each kinda spawned whole genres from their unique sounds. They're mostly used in to clean channels because they both produce over the top and totally excessive, even for the mid-late 80s when that was kind of "the thing," ungodly amounts of gain The fz-2 (sf300 is a Behringer clone of the HyperFuzz) sounds like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ipzg6G6IBYQ&t=87s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApzPnujS7WY&t=30s (around 1:38 during the verse is a better example of the pedal's signature 'tones,' but the drop in that song is Cool and it's rare to hear fz2 sounds on melodic single note lines instead of just 10,000 pound power chord riffs) It's kind of the fuzz effect taken to its logical extreme. It completely destroys your signal, and was mostly useless as what they intended it to be, but some misanthropes made the most of it And then the hm-2 is a pedal that, similar to the notorious mt-2, sounds 'bad,' but, unlike its mostly bedroom bound midscooped brother, is singlehandedly responsible for the guitar sound of almost all Swedish death metal from the 90s. You turn all the knobs all the way up as far as they will go and it sounds like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLuN_lPdYPA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H12juqO77o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhru7gT0cIE they call it the "chainsaw" sound lazerwolf posted:This thread makes me want to get rid of my HRD for a Katana. This is the correct thing to do if you just want to play guitar, but I personally would not trade spending thousands of dollars to chase tones for the world, because I am a Big loving Nerd e: I've wondered for a while why Boss didn't include those two specifically in the Katana since it is popular among metal players (as well as literally everyone because it seems pretty great) and they are super iconic. I would also love to see a Waza Craft reissue of either or both, since they're selling for really rude prices in the used market and nothing else sounds like them. I guess it's pretty niche, but that pair is extreme metal history. Maybe they don't know? Or they think their modern products sound better? Which is true, but that's not the point. You can't play Dopethrone with an fz-5 (or a Katana, maybe? idk I don't have one) CHUCK WAS TAKEN fucked around with this message at 08:09 on May 27, 2020 |
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The Muppets On PCP posted:also watch this total dadrocker playing his shuffle blues riffs through that setup it's adorable There's a lot to love about that video
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CHUCK WAS TAKEN posted:I feel like I can answer that question for Spanish Manlove since those two Boss pedals both only do one thing and each kinda spawned whole genres from their unique sounds. They're mostly used in to clean channels because they both produce over the top and totally excessive, even for the mid-late 80s when that was kind of "the thing," ungodly amounts of gain Interesting. The Katana has an MT-2 built in but not an HM-2. Since I love Dopethrone, I will mess around this evening and see if I can get close with the built-in fuzzes (which are a Fuzzface and a Big Muff π IIRC) and the "sneaky" amps. Lumpy fucked around with this message at 15:03 on May 27, 2020 |
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Lumpy posted:Interesting. The Katana has an MT-2 built in but not an HM-2. Since I love Dopethrone, I will mess around this evening and see if I can get close with the built-in fuzzes (which are a Fuzzface and a Big Muff π IIRC) and the "sneaky" amps. You like Dopethrone, eh? *eh heh heh* https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SF300--behringer-sf300-super-fuzz-pedal
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Baron von Eevl posted:You like Dopethrone, eh? I'll have to get one for A/B testing of my katana tone, right? I mean, it's for science!  Then again, I do own a soldering iron... https://www.coda-effects.com/2015/08/boss-hyper-fuzz-boss-fz2-wall-of-fuzz.html?m=1 https://www.pedalpcb.com/product/hypedfuzz/ 
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For $30 you can get an sf-300 which is a very accurate clone, but it's availability is a little spotty as everyone is looking for one after some well know YouTubers spilled the beans on how good it is
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Spanish Manlove posted:For $30 you can get an sf-300 which is a very accurate clone, but it's availability is a little spotty as everyone is looking for one after some well know YouTubers spilled the beans on how good it is But then I can't spend 10x that on parts and lots of time making the exact same thing! 
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