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It doesn't matter even if no jokes were ruined, it's still the WRONG way to watch
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CodfishCartographer posted:Who gives a poo poo about missing out on one joke a season due to the cropping, where the gently caress are the commentary tracks? It's not a question of how many jokes are cut off per se, it's a matter of whether you want to see the show as it was intended to be seen vs. making the "most" out of your widescreen TV (by blowing up and cropping what was a relatively low res image to begin with) e: and I'm pretty sure people can still just stretch the 4:3 image to 16:9 like they always have
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May 21, 2020 00:29
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I was just watching the Scorpio episode which has a bit where Hank and Homer are on treadmills and when they get off they’re on a moving walkway. Thanks to the cropping you can’t see the treadmills or the walkway so the scene is just bizarre.
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May 21, 2020 00:32
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It also just plain looks like poo poo in 16x9, but it might still look like poo poo in 4x3.
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May 21, 2020 00:36
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oops
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May 21, 2020 01:12
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The cropping is really bad, if they aren't squashed or stretched, its often zoomed in so close that only a portion of their face takes up the whole screen. There's also more than a handful of jokes that are cropped out.
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May 21, 2020 07:26
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And I thought 'Jesus as an incompetent magician' was a South Park joke.bobjr posted:It's an episode I just saw, where Marge writes a steamy romance novel with Homer as a terrible husband and Ned as the hot romantic guy, while the B plot is Homer acting like a crazy homeless person to get money to buy a gift for Marge, but then keeps going with it because of the money he makes. I remember that one, doesn't it start with Homer getting kicked out of the bar and dancing for money. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeMlMCOam9w Also remember the bit where Marge's novel sells well despite being pretty trashy and the protagonist's name changing to Marge for a few paragraphs.
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May 21, 2020 07:54
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I remember that one, doesn't it start with Homer getting kicked out of the bar and dancing for money. I'm pretty sure those are two different episodes? Didn't the Marge's Book episode have Homer buying an ambulance as the B-plot?
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May 21, 2020 09:19
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Now I'm picturing the Eastern Europe drug ambulance story but with Homer Simpson.
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May 21, 2020 09:41
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Ghost Leviathan posted:And I thought 'Jesus as an incompetent magician' was a South Park joke. The rat as remote joke was okay and then a lady literally just walks onscreen to explain the joke
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May 21, 2020 11:08
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 What's going on with the people walking past Homer as he dances? Why do they all look like poo poo? They don't even look like they belong in the same show.
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May 21, 2020 12:08
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I clicked on the disney+ tweet to find the date 4:3 simpsons would be out and every loving reply was insane nerds screaming about some poo poo called wandavision
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May 21, 2020 13:05
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Eh! Frank posted:
Usually that means someone drew their friends or family into the show.
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May 21, 2020 13:18
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Homer's dancing is animated really oddly there too
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May 21, 2020 14:15
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Riptor posted:Homer's dancing is animated really oddly there too It's a rotoscoped 3d model.
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May 21, 2020 14:47
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJb1_QiF-9w
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May 24, 2020 00:54
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Ghost Leviathan posted:And I thought 'Jesus as an incompetent magician' was a South Park joke. Wheres the loving joke? Homer dancing isnt funny, the rat is mildly amusing at best. An entire minute of a 22minute comedy show without a hint of humour.
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May 26, 2020 09:14
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I'm too distracted by Moe telling him to 'make it through the night', when it's the middle of the day. It's the antithesis of 
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May 26, 2020 09:25
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Nutsngum posted:Wheres the loving joke? Homer dancing isnt funny, the rat is mildly amusing at best. An entire minute of a 22minute comedy show without a hint of humour. The other 21 minutes ain't so hot neither.
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May 26, 2020 09:37
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The Simpsons makes me irrationally angry because it proves you can make 23 years of absolute garbage and still get paid.
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May 26, 2020 12:17
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Inspector Gesicht posted:The Simpsons makes me irrationally angry because it proves you can make 23 years of absolute garbage and still get paid. Don’t let this guy find out about Saturday Night Live 
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May 26, 2020 13:24
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Definitely don't point him toward a mirror!
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May 26, 2020 13:47
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COMPAGNIE TOMMY posted:Don’t let this guy find out about Saturday Night Live Isn't SNL an avante-garte show? How else can you explain a program presented by comedians can run for 45 laugh-free years? I remember truly hating that episode where Lisa gets bullied by a new girl, "Bye Bye Nerdie". You'd think it lead into some interesting material, until it turns out bullies are compelled to beat up nerds because of their smell. That wasn't funny, amusing, or interesting. This is when twelve year-old me realized that TV shows spoil the same way as the milk in your fridge. I'm sure someone in this thread could think of a better ending for that episode than the nonsense technobabble we got. I can't think of a more thoughtless take on the extremely serious matter of bullying. Inspector Gesicht fucked around with this message at 14:45 on May 26, 2020 |
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May 26, 2020 14:38
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I think that late 90s-early 00s period of TV in general was a bit of a cultural low point. Wasn't that the height of blatant trashy-ness with very little nuance or a moral lesson to reflect upon the trash? Jerry Springer, WWF Attitude era, reality tv, When ___ Attacks, etc. At the time I want to say that this period of Simpsons felt like it was reflective of it's time moreso than people tend to consider in these good vs bad Simpsons discussions. Sure it never recovered and only got worse, but still.
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May 26, 2020 15:40
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That was around the height of the reality show craze iirc, so yes.
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May 26, 2020 15:43
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iamsosmrt posted:I think that late 90s-early 00s period of TV in general was a bit of a cultural low point. Wasn't that the height of blatant trashy-ness with very little nuance or a moral lesson to reflect upon the trash? Jerry Springer, WWF Attitude era, reality tv, When ___ Attacks, etc. I have never thought about it really was like that. Really, why was everything so nasty?
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May 26, 2020 15:57
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The Moon Monster posted:That was around the height of the reality show craze iirc, so yes. I have a feeling that it was more of a combination of about 3 things. Up until the late 90's, ABC, NBC, and CBS all had schedules dominated with movies and sports. You can look it up on Wikipedia, and there are multiple nights during the week that your options were a baseball game, a mediocre movie, or a block of sitcoms (only one of which would last more than two seasons). As sports moved to cable and movies on TV were falling out of favor, more things were needed to fill that time. On top of that, initially you had Fox, as a broadcast network without a full schedule, so you could get away with filling your days with reruns and movies, add the WB and UPN to the pile, and now there's a whole lot more demand for new programming to fill that time. Lastly, there was a big writer's strike in the early 00's, which I think is what really sealed the deal on reality TV, because you don't need a writer if you point your camera at a bunch of dumbasses.
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May 26, 2020 16:02
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reality shows are also relatively cheaper to make than a scripted drama, definitely cheaper to make than a cartoon, and maybe cheaper than sports? $$$
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May 26, 2020 16:35
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Reality TV is very cheap to make, has a quick turnaround and doesn't rely on named talent. It's addictive junk TV for both the audience and network. The downside is that as obvious space-filler it's really easy to lose audience interest to almost anything else.
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May 26, 2020 17:01
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iamsosmrt posted:I think that late 90s-early 00s period of TV in general was a bit of a cultural low point. Wasn't that the height of blatant trashy-ness with very little nuance or a moral lesson to reflect upon the trash? Jerry Springer, WWF Attitude era, reality tv, When ___ Attacks, etc. Simpsons WAS a product of its time, explicitly satirizing the media of the 90s. However, that's not an excuse why it's bad nowadays - nothing is beyond "the writers are bad." I see people complain about constant celebrities in new episodes, but old ones did that as early as season 2. I see people complain about jerkass Homer, but he was often a monster to his family in golden era as well. It's 100% just "the writers aren't as clever or funny anymore" - if they were, then they could have shifted Simpsons to continue to reflect media as time went on.
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May 26, 2020 17:31
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Inspector Gesicht posted:I remember truly hating that episode where Lisa gets bullied by a new girl, "Bye Bye Nerdie". You'd think it lead into some interesting material, until it turns out bullies are compelled to beat up nerds because of their smell. That wasn't funny, amusing, or interesting. This is when twelve year-old me realized that TV shows spoil the same way as the milk in your fridge. I'm sure someone in this thread could think of a better ending for that episode than the nonsense technobabble we got. Yeah, even as a kid who was bullied, the idea of a bully basically reacting like an animal would react to pheromones didn't sit right with me.
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May 26, 2020 18:33
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Pretty much sadly in line with most media treating bullying as a natural fact of life rather than a problem. Even South Park made some points with how bullying is a universal phenomenon, genuinely damaging and can and does come from angles people don't expect, and that ended as a parody of the Kony fiasco.
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May 26, 2020 18:42
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There’s a stretch of seasons where they loved to parody “Who let the dogs out”
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May 26, 2020 18:54
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YeahTubaMike posted:Yeah, even as a kid who was bullied, the idea of a bully basically reacting like an animal would react to pheromones didn't sit right with me.
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May 26, 2020 19:23
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I always took it as being a satire of overly simplistic narratives regarding bullying. See Homer's oblivious line about it all being for attention 
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May 26, 2020 19:31
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I always took it as being a satire of overly simplistic narratives regarding bullying. See Homer's oblivious line about it all being for attention I'ma paraphrase Coca-Cola here and say they're not that smart and they're not that stupid. I have a feeling this is extremely darkly funny for literature majors and grad students
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May 26, 2020 19:35
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CodfishCartographer posted:Simpsons WAS a product of its time, explicitly satirizing the media of the 90s. However, that's not an excuse why it's bad nowadays - nothing is beyond "the writers are bad." I see people complain about constant celebrities in new episodes, but old ones did that as early as season 2. I see people complain about jerkass Homer, but he was often a monster to his family in golden era as well. It's 100% just "the writers aren't as clever or funny anymore" - if they were, then they could have shifted Simpsons to continue to reflect media as time went on. My post was not a defense of the modern bad Simpsons (not sure if you took it that way) but just an observation of the situation surrounding the period that most people agree started the shows big downturn. I think the writers got into the habit of relying on lazy stories and trashy, in-your-face gags during this time and the show was still pretty relevant for the era. The contrast with later bad Simpsons is that the jokes got worse and worse over time and the show's become pretty irrelevant as a result. i'm guess I'm saying I see the beginnings of a really lovely formula and they've more or less aped to increasingly awful results. Ultimately, you're right in that the writers are bad and that's the main reason the show's been bad.
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May 26, 2020 19:40
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iamsosmrt posted:My post was not a defense of the modern bad Simpsons (not sure if you took it that way) but just an observation of the situation surrounding the period that most people agree started the shows big downturn. Oh no, I didn't think you were trying to defend modern Simpsons. I was honestly using your post as a catalyst to complain about something I see lots of people in this and other threads doing: trying to place blame on some trend as to "why" the show is bad. Things like jerkass Homer, lack of satire, Simpsons go to X, overabundance of celebrities, etc. It's easy to point to these trends, and the newer seasons are often worse at these than the golden years, but it always feels like the obvious answer is just "the writers are bad." Even if the current writers never did any jerkass homer, the Simpsons never left Springfield, there were no celebrities in any episodes, etc, the episodes would still be bad simply because the writers can't make it funny. Dunno why I'm ranting about this, autism I guess idk
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May 26, 2020 19:48
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Beyond the terrible writing is simply the fact that after eight seasons you've exhausted every situation and permutation that arises from the initial premise.
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May 26, 2020 20:03
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I always took it as being a satire of overly simplistic narratives regarding bullying. See Homer's oblivious line about it all being for attention It must have gone over my little kid head.
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