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namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Prince John posted:

I know the thread isn't a huge fan of George Galloway, but this is a hell of a speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTXh9NG6Dg

I'm only half way through, but so far he's shat on British hypocrisy over foreign resistance to occupation, how Labour is now indistinguishable from the Tories (it's dated in 2013), the risk of breaking up the UK because of the lack of a left wing party at the Scottish referendum, the impact of austerity, political corruption, the metaphorical reduction in the stature of politicians, police corruption, newspaper corruption, and now on to the bankers and the scale of tax evasion. It's quite articulate and engaging.

Galloways strength was always his speeches and rhetoric, it was his strategies, ideology and ethics which forced him from the far left.

147 is a maximum break, which is what we need to do from capitalism immediately.

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Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

feedmegin posted:

I assume Little Bees is still fine :sun:

Oh my god! I had forgotten that! "When you find yourself inside a bubble...!"

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Friends were astonished because mostly they live in cities and they can register it the same or next day as the death. City dwellers have no idea how difficult things can be for rural dwellers.

We know, that's why we live in cities :colbert:

Of course it's 2020 so you'd imagine in that a sufficiently prosperous first world country a lot of this sort of bureaucracy should be able to be handled electronically, alas... :britain:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Munin posted:

[edit] What is the status of "fair use" or equivalent in the UK these days anyway?
It used to be completely terrible, like barely even a developed and formal definition for academic use, shocking I know.

Then there was an effort in the 2010s to formalize it in statute, allowing parody, CD rips, and other stuff that everyone was doing anyway, along with proper guidelines around academic/critical fair use.

Then half of that fell to pieces for reasons that I'm not fully sure, mostly leaving just the academic stuff.

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron


feedmegin posted:

I assume Little Bees is still fine :sun:

Edit: skullhead does sound rather close to totenkopf which obviously has dodgy associations...

However I have recordings of the song from like five or six other gigs still untouched (and with the name in the title too).

It’s not much in the great scheme of things; just weird that it happened nearly a decade after upload

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

blunt posted:

We know, that's why we live in cities :colbert:

Of course it's 2020 so you'd imagine in that a sufficiently prosperous first world country a lot of this sort of bureaucracy should be able to be handled electronically, alas... :britain:

There is a helpful website you can upload the death certificate to which basically lets all the government departments know. But the actual death ascertaining has not yet been electronicised, and that's probably a good thing, on the whole.

frankenbeans
Feb 16, 2003

Good Times

Prince John posted:

Oh my god! I had forgotten that! "When you find yourself inside a bubble...!"

Haha, so did I until this. I played it on Eve Radio once or twice, IIRC.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
https://twitter.com/BBCHelena/status/1265389028385456130

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Prince John posted:

I know the thread isn't a huge fan of George Galloway, but this is a hell of a speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTXh9NG6Dg

I'm only half way through, but so far he's shat on British hypocrisy over foreign resistance to occupation, how Labour is now indistinguishable from the Tories (it's dated in 2013), the risk of breaking up the UK because of the lack of a left wing party at the Scottish referendum, the impact of austerity, political corruption, the metaphorical reduction in the stature of politicians, police corruption, newspaper corruption, and now on to the bankers and the scale of tax evasion. It's quite articulate and engaging.

Haven't watched this yet, but in 2005 I had never heard of Galloway and I was on holiday in forn parts and the only English channel on the tv was BBC World. And they were showing him in front of a US Senate Commission about I think the Iraq War. I was extremely impressed. He wasn't phased at all and spoke so clearly.

(I'm not a fan overall though.)

frankenbeans posted:

I recently got a bunch of stuff flagged on youtube that I uploaded over 10 years ago. I made a few Eve Online videos back in 2004-ish, and uploaded them to youtube in 2008-9, I think. They were fine for a decade then a few people started watching them and before I knew it I was getting warnings. It's entirely understandable, because I pretty much used entire tracks start to finish. Zombies by the Cranberries still hasn't been flagged though.


This is one of the things he mentions in the video I posted - stuff posted years ago before there was a monetisation angle to consider, and now things are getting flagged up.


Wow I thought the Daily Star was sort of Daily Express but dumbed down even more! Actually, I'm glad about this because Daily Star is one of the few 'news' papers available in Home Bargains: the most prominent one being the Express which is full on brown nose the tories. (And The Sun - age related defects I knew there was another fash rag in there, couldn't remember the name).

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 22:45 on May 26, 2020

Betjeman
Jul 14, 2004

Biker, Biker, Biker GROOVE!

OwlFancier posted:

There is a helpful website you can upload the death certificate to which basically lets all the government departments know. But the actual death ascertaining has not yet been electronicised, and that's probably a good thing, on the whole.

They don't want another Shipman through the cracks. I doubt very much whether hospital death statistics are waiting on the official register, but the ONS ones will be.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



Can't believe i chuckled at a red top front page. And The Star at that.

https://twitter.com/JosieLong/status/1265398319037251587?s=20

Got to love them Tories living the "one rule for us, one for you" thing to its fullest.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 22:45 on May 26, 2020

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Haven't watched this yet, but in 2005 I had never heard of Galloway and I was on holiday in forn parts and the only English channel on the tv was BBC World. And they were showing him in front of a US Senate Commission about I think the Iraq War. I was extremely impressed. He wasn't phased at all and spoke so clearly.

(I'm not a fan overall though.)



This is one of the things he mentions in the video I posted - stuff posted years ago before there was a monetisation angle to consider, and now things are getting flagged up.


Wow I thought the Daily Star was sort of Daily Express but dumbed down even more! Actually, I'm glad about this because Daily Star is one of the few 'news' papers available in Home Bargains: the most prominent one being the Express which is full on brown nose the tories.

I wouldn’t bother learning the different news papers and their stances right now since they’re all going bankrupt in a few months anyway

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Jel Shaker posted:

I wouldn’t bother learning the different news papers and their stances right now since they’re all going bankrupt in a few months anyway

Too late: I googled. Daily Star while not reporting as much on politics as other papers is from the Daily Express stable.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Wow I thought the Daily Star was sort of Daily Express but dumbed down even more! Actually, I'm glad about this because Daily Star is one of the few 'news' papers available in Home Bargains: the most prominent one being the Express which is full on brown nose the tories. (And The Sun - age related defects I knew there was another fash rag in there, couldn't remember the name).

Bad news - it's probably the most rabidly racist tabloid

jaete
Jun 21, 2009


Nap Ghost

Jel Shaker posted:

I wouldn’t bother learning the different news papers and their stances right now since they’re all going bankrupt in a few months anyway

well this is hell world, so probably a couple of the shittiest possible ones will survive (while slightly less lovely ones like the guardian won't)

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Guavanaut posted:

It used to be completely terrible, like barely even a developed and formal definition for academic use, shocking I know.

Then there was an effort in the 2010s to formalize it in statute, allowing parody, CD rips, and other stuff that everyone was doing anyway, along with proper guidelines around academic/critical fair use.

Then half of that fell to pieces for reasons that I'm not fully sure, mostly leaving just the academic stuff.

I suppose the right amount of cash in the right hands and the right word in the right ears by copyright holders put the kibosh to to it.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"
I'm starting to wonder if Boris is partly keeping Cummings around because he's such a pantomime villain people will just blame him and leave Boris relatively unscathed.

E: sort of like how people often blame all the worst stuff George Bush did on Dick Cheney.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Ehh Boris seems to be getting a fair share of heat for keeping him on at the risk of undermining the lockdown. And the cabinet just looks pathetic right now.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Haven't watched this yet, but in 2005 I had never heard of Galloway and I was on holiday in forn parts and the only English channel on the tv was BBC World. And they were showing him in front of a US Senate Commission about I think the Iraq War. I was extremely impressed. He wasn't phased at all and spoke so clearly.

And a few mere months later he was pretending to be a cat on international reality TV. He wasn't phased at all and meowed so clearly

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

a pipe smoking dog posted:

I'm starting to wonder if Boris is partly keeping Cummings around because he's such a pantomime villain people will just blame him and leave Boris relatively unscathed.

E: sort of like how people often blame all the worst stuff George Bush did on Dick Cheney.

It's fair to say that Cheney was the actual power behind the throne though, he'd been pushing the unitary executive stuff for decades. Bush's rehabilitation in our stupid age is sort of a separate thing.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/RPCorpIntl/status/1265397243856781313?s=19

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

More widely, I do simple websites for friends and family and have the devil of a job convincing them that they can't just lift images off the internet, block copy wiki etc. even if they do give a link back or a reference.

A friend of mine got stung for using a picture of something utterly prosaic like a spoon or whatever on their site. Getty images got in touch and graciously offered to settle out of court for a 3 figure sum. It really pisses me off when the beeb litters its articles with barely relevant images courtesy of Getty, like they're trying to fling even more money at the heartless bastards. Thanks, Beeb, that image of several sharpened pencils was what I needed to digest this piece on employment in the aerospace sector. License fee well spent.

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





Labour loving sucks doesn't it

hey uhhh sorry about saying all that poo poo in December about how Labour has gotta get more socially conservative to win, because they're actually going to do that and they're going to loving lose

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1265404922541084680
Yeah yeah, polls mean nothing about the next election. They do show that this story is actually cutting through though, and this one will increase the chances the Tories will Do Something.

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





so what you're saying is that Boris is about to abolish representative democracy and become Lord Protector

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Endjinneer posted:

A friend of mine got stung for using a picture of something utterly prosaic like a spoon or whatever on their site. Getty images got in touch and graciously offered to settle out of court for a 3 figure sum. It really pisses me off when the beeb litters its articles with barely relevant images courtesy of Getty, like they're trying to fling even more money at the heartless bastards. Thanks, Beeb, that image of several sharpened pencils was what I needed to digest this piece on employment in the aerospace sector. License fee well spent.
I know someone who was intimidated into closing an anti-fascist site because they were using photos taken by the US Army during WWII that are well known to be public domain under the National Archives and Records Administration that Getty claimed they owned copyright on. Utterly shameless.

Venomous posted:

hey uhhh sorry about saying all that poo poo in December about how Labour has gotta get more socially conservative to win, because they're actually going to do that and they're going to loving lose
Not sorry about saying all that poo poo last three years about how politics is likely to repolarize around free love free drugs free markets vs. authoritarian national socialism, because it's actually happening and it's going to suck rear end unless we stop it.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Polls are unimportant right now to what party is in power, bad %s will mean the end of Cummings and Johnson but not the Tories. Only an active competitive force will end their parties rule.

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

jaete posted:

well this is hell world, so probably a couple of the shittiest possible ones will survive (while slightly less lovely ones like the guardian won't)

The Guardian made its bed.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
Re: Galloway
https://mobile.twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1237447810737491969
He's a shithead

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





Guavanaut posted:

Not sorry about saying all that poo poo last three years about how politics is likely to repolarize around free love free drugs free markets vs. authoritarian national socialism, because it's actually happening and it's going to suck rear end unless we stop it.

:emptyquote:

cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather
Hey UK goons.
This has probably been asked countless times before, but can someone give me a quick run down on what happens if Boris and his crew don't manage to fix up any sort of central Brexit agreement with the EU by the end of the year? As far as I am aware, this is quite likely.

I was talking with a friend and she assumed, that a lot of points were settled and that the default of a no deal Brexit would be a Schengen situation. But as far as I know, there will only really be a deal if the central points, e.g. the inner Irish border and the adherence to EU norms, are settled. So as far as I know right now, a no deal Brexit would set the UK back to the level of say Morocco i.e. just an independent state which is somewhat in the vicinity. Am I correct about it?
We both know no deal Brexit will be an absolute poo poo show, but sort of disagreed on the extend of it.

Basically, what will happen, if literally nothing is done on that front from now till January?

cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 23:56 on May 26, 2020

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.



I click on a random video on his twitter, move the timeline into the middle when I see it's over an hour, and what do I hear:

First few words out of Galloway's mouth posted:

... Hitler's northern fasteners ...

Specifically this from 23:00 onwards, 23:48 to be exact, posted 3 hours ago:

https://twitter.com/georgegalloway/status/1265356379260215296

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

https://twitter.com/SteveWhiteRadio/status/1265341114246184961

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





btw, Guava, you call this a comedy sixer?

As poo poo as this rainy fascist island is, we're supposed to be a lot funnier than that, especially on this dead gay comedy forum. That sixer just made me a bit hungry. :(

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


e: listening longer I clearly hit a particularly, ah, spicy, part; but suffice to say he's not a great fan of Scottish independence or the snp

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 03:40 on May 27, 2020

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious
https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1265385466079195136?s=20

The best bit is all those accounts responding negatively to this all seem to be making the exact same claim regarding the Mail's editor and all have some variation of the flag in their avatar.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

cant cook creole bream posted:

Hey UK goons.
This has probably been asked countless times before, but can someone give me a quick run down on what happens if Boris and his crew don't manage to fix up any sort of central Brexit agreement with the EU by the end of the year? As far as I am aware, this is quite likely.

I was talking with a friend and she assumed, that a lot of points were settled and that the default of a no deal Brexit would be a Schengen situation. But as far as I know, there will only really be a deal if the central points, e.g. the inner Irish border and the adherence to EU norms, are settled. So as far as I know right now, a no deal Brexit would set the UK back to the level of say Morocco i.e. just an independent state which is somewhat in the vicinity. Am I correct about it?
We both know no deal Brexit will be an absolute poo poo show, but sort of disagreed on the extend of it.

Basically, what will happen, if literally nothing is done on that front from now till January?

We've left the EU and the transition period which is a 'business as before with additional issues around Northern Ireland' kind of agreement runs out at the end of the year. Either we get a new agreement written, agreed and signed by the UK and EU or the old transition period ends and there is no relationship between the UK and EU except for that which applies to all states signed up to the various international treaties that we already are a part of.

Edit: We aren't part of Schengen now and never were, just to clarify about your friends total misunderstanding.

namesake fucked around with this message at 00:12 on May 27, 2020

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
People like Galloway are pretty representative of a particular strand of old school authoritarian left-conservatism though, in that he'd shoot all the fascists and capitalists but also thinks transgender people are mentally ill and backs any awful despot who spins themselves as 'anti-imperialist'. It's quite impressive how they manage to be so right on 50% of issues and so completely loving terribly wrong on the other 50%. It's doubly frustrating because often these people are the only ones consciously situating themselves in a top-left position in modern discourse, which leads to that whole tradition being dismissed as inherently reactionary and hostile to progressive issues, which it really isn't. I don't have any particular beef with anarchists and I think they're mostly good people, but it's not good that the libertarian left is now seen as the de facto Correct/default 'left' position (in the West at least), when there should be more of a good-faith dialogue there. When it comes down to it, the only inherent difference between authcoms and ancoms is their attitude towards power, which is purely a strategic issue.

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 00:18 on May 27, 2020

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



evilmiera posted:

https://twitter.com/PaulBrandITV/status/1265385466079195136?s=20

The best bit is all those accounts responding negatively to this all seem to be making the exact same claim regarding the Mail's editor and all have some variation of the flag in their avatar.

I'm the 2% of people that thing Cummings should fall on his sword, but if he doesn't want to, Boris shouldn't sack him

This does definitely seem to vindicate Keir staying silent, the enemy is making a long, long series of mistakes and interrupting them could bring no benefit.

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cant cook creole bream
Aug 15, 2011
I think Fahrenheit is better for weather

namesake posted:

We've left the EU and the transition period which is a 'business as before with additional issues around Northern Ireland' kind of agreement runs out at the end of the year. Either we get a new agreement written, agreed and signed by the UK and EU or the old transition period ends and there is no relationship between the UK and EU except for that which applies to all states signed up to the various international treaties that we already are a part of.

Edit: We aren't part of Schengen now and never were, just to clarify about your friends total misunderstanding.

So my understanding was correct? If nothing new happens, the relationship between the EU and the UK will be as interwoven as the one between the EU and Mongolia?
I was fairly certain that the UK was never part of Schengen, but couldn't argue how that works.

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