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Chapter 23quote:There was nothing to do but wait. Wait while the water level inside the ship rose and carried my friends toward the top of the chamber. Up to where the grate was. Poor Hork-Bajr and Hork-Bajr controller with bad aim. We hardly knew thee. quote:Within a few seconds, the helicopters were lifting off. So that's not good. That's not good at all.
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# ? May 26, 2020 23:52 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 16:01 |
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Daikloktos posted:Hork Bajir have better vision than humans? I don't know that that tracks, though I guess the Arn could have juiced then any which way I believe they have better depth perception but weaker colour distinction. I don't know why my brain holds onto this information, but there you go.
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# ? May 27, 2020 08:02 |
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Krazyface posted:I believe they have better depth perception but weaker colour distinction. I don't know why my brain holds onto this information, but there you go. I have to concentrate to remember the names of the friends I had when I was ten, but 25 years later I still know what a z-space transponder is, and how large it is. Why. Why.
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# ? May 27, 2020 08:53 |
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I just cracked open this book and some of my others for the first time in probably decades. Jesus, how did I stand the terrible sans-serif body text? And that typeface was used in every book, even the later hardbacks?
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# ? May 27, 2020 08:54 |
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But it's futuristic!
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# ? May 27, 2020 09:32 |
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The Encounter-Chapter 24quote:It was not looking good for me. If I tried to fly off-that ship I would be Draconed ten different ways before I could get away. drat. quote:She fell silent. In my mind I could picture her regaining her human shape. Treading water with the others, unable to escape. Expecting only the worst. So this turned into a suicide mission really fast, didn't it?
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# ? May 27, 2020 21:14 |
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Another underestimated aspect of the series: I feel like any other elementary-school-audience author would have given the kids one successful plan in the first three books. Here, nope, this is a helplessly hosed situation and the best they can do is still well short of success.
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# ? May 27, 2020 21:28 |
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disaster pastor posted:Another underestimated aspect of the series: I feel like any other elementary-school-audience author would have given the kids one successful plan in the first three books. Here, nope, this is a helplessly hosed situation and the best they can do is still well short of success. Well, there's a reason the military doesn't hire 13 year olds to do tactical planning.
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# ? May 27, 2020 21:51 |
disaster pastor posted:Another underestimated aspect of the series: I feel like any other elementary-school-audience author would have given the kids one successful plan in the first three books. Here, nope, this is a helplessly hosed situation and the best they can do is still well short of success. If you look at it from the Visser's perspective, his otherwise pretty successful invasion is getting stinging pinpricks. No serious blows, but for a third time he's been unable to pin down the culprits.
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# ? May 27, 2020 22:49 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:If you look at it from the Visser's perspective, his otherwise pretty successful invasion is getting stinging pinpricks. No serious blows, but for a third time he's been unable to pin down the culprits. And he thinks they're Andalites, which makes him substantially more nervous than he would if he knew they were human kids.
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# ? May 27, 2020 22:51 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:If you look at it from the Visser's perspective, his otherwise pretty successful invasion is getting stinging pinpricks. No serious blows, but for a third time he's been unable to pin down the culprits. Epicurius posted:And he thinks they're Andalites, which makes him substantially more nervous than he would if he knew they were human kids. Oh, yeah, and this one ends up hurting way worse than the first two, to everyone's surprise. It's just unusual for a kids' book to aggressively avoid even pretending the teenage superheroes have any advantages at all.
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# ? May 27, 2020 22:58 |
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Did they even consider what would happen if they got sucked up the tube and had nowhere to go after that? It's totally realistic for 13 year olds but it's still funny how they only plan for the best case scenario instead of the most likely one. I hope they get better later on.
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# ? May 27, 2020 23:18 |
Forget that, I want to talk to whoever manufactures the vacuum pumps for the Yeerks because goddrat that thing works
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# ? May 27, 2020 23:21 |
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OctaviusBeaver posted:Did they even consider what would happen if they got sucked up the tube and had nowhere to go after that? It's totally realistic for 13 year olds but it's still funny how they only plan for the best case scenario instead of the most likely one. I hope they get better later on. Getting more proficient at fighting their way out counts as better, right?
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# ? May 27, 2020 23:25 |
Wait Hang on Tobias mentions only a few feet between the ship and the water's surface Vacuum alone (which it has to be since they don't get mulched by pumps) can only lift through 9m loving A+ Applegate
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# ? May 27, 2020 23:29 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Wait Yeah I was gonna say the most likely end here would have been them getting trapped by filters or pumps, they got extremely lucky.
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# ? May 27, 2020 23:54 |
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OctaviusBeaver posted:It's totally realistic for 13 year olds but it's still funny how they only plan for the best case scenario instead of the most likely one. I hope they get better later on. It's gonna take a while.
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# ? May 28, 2020 01:28 |
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Nah, I just finished the series and they totally dumb luck their way through everything. I mean, holy poo poo.
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# ? May 28, 2020 02:36 |
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Really, what they should have been doing is begin picking off known controllers. Go tiger next time Tom and his buddies have one of those beach parties, jump mr and mrs Chapman on their way to work etc.
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# ? May 28, 2020 16:25 |
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Avalerion posted:Really, what they should have been doing is begin picking off known controllers. Go tiger next time Tom and his buddies have one of those beach parties, jump mr and mrs Chapman on their way to work etc. Part of the problem with that, as far as they're concerned is, sure, that would kill the Yeerks, but that would also kill Tom, the Chapmans, etc. They still are trying to find a way to get rid of the Yeerks without getting rid of the people who are infested. (They kill Hork-Bajr and Taxxon controllers, but one's a 7 foot tall spikey dinosaur chicken and the other is a giant centipede that spits acid, and it's a lot easier to see them as not "people".)
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# ? May 28, 2020 16:56 |
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Avalerion posted:Really, what they should have been doing is begin picking off known controllers. Go tiger next time Tom and his buddies have one of those beach parties, jump mr and mrs Chapman on their way to work etc. I think they've discussed this plan already so it's not really a spoiler to talk about their reasons for not doing it: 1) They value the lives of the human hosts, who are essentially hostages. Jake doesn't want to kill his brother Tom but he also doesn't want to kill a random stranger who happens to have a Yeerk in his head. Unless that stranger is a Hork-Bajir or Taxxon. 2) If they managed to just take out the slug inside a Controller and spare the host, then the aliens will want to re-acquire their asset with a new Yeerk. The teens can't provide witness protection. 3) If they decide to save people in a public way that prevents the Yeerks from silently taking them back, then they switch from a cold war to a hot one which they are not prepared to fight. So they're stuck with sabotage and nonlethal interference. It would really help if they could recruit some experienced strategists or freedom fighters who could help them execute a guerrilla war. But they're in suburban California and don't know any insurgents, and on top of that they have no idea who to trust. Their best hope lies in teaming up with a stranded Andalite teen, a traitorous human edgelord, and a group of disabled kids who get used as pawns. And also an underground civilization of pacifist robot dogs.
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# ? May 28, 2020 16:57 |
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Epicurius posted:Part of the problem with that, as far as they're concerned is, sure, that would kill the Yeerks, but that would also kill Tom, the Chapmans, etc. They still are trying to find a way to get rid of the Yeerks without getting rid of the people who are infested. (They kill Hork-Bajr and Taxxon controllers, but one's a 7 foot tall spikey dinosaur chicken and the other is a giant centipede that spits acid, and it's a lot easier to see them as not "people".) I don't think they've even outright killed any Hork-Bajr at this point in the story. And the Taxxons, as far as they know at this point, are all willing allies of the Yeerks.
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# ? May 28, 2020 17:09 |
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On the subject of the value of Hork-Bajir life versus human, Andalite, etc:
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# ? May 28, 2020 17:15 |
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Silver2195 posted:I don't think they've even outright killed any Hork-Bajr at this point in the story. And the Taxxons, as far as they know at this point, are all willing allies of the Yeerks. I think some might have died in the assault on the Yeerk pool? Cassie DID kill that human-Controller policeman, though.
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# ? May 28, 2020 17:26 |
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wizzardstaff posted:I think they've discussed this plan already so it's not really a spoiler to talk about their reasons for not doing it: That's going to really gently caress new readers up later on because we find out all of the Hork-Bajir and Taxxon slaves later on are fully sentient creatures with their own cultures and reasons they want out from under the Yeerk thumb and Jake has Rachel kill Tom anyway.
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# ? May 28, 2020 17:34 |
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Epicurius posted:Cassie DID kill that human-Controller policeman, though. Yup, they want to preserve the host's life if at all possible, but when the choices are "kill a host" or "all of us are infested," well...
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# ? May 28, 2020 17:40 |
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# ? May 28, 2020 18:00 |
let's just say "the kid's selective willingness to kill controllers depending on the host species does come up in the books" and leave it at thatwizzardstaff posted:On the subject of the value of Hork-Bajir life versus human, Andalite, etc:
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# ? May 28, 2020 18:28 |
I still have this saved on my phone, I'm not entirely sure when I got it
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# ? May 28, 2020 18:31 |
google image searching the meme i previously quoted took me to a tumblr blog about animorphs which then in turn led me to the following delightful image: e: vvvvv President Ark fucked around with this message at 20:32 on May 28, 2020 |
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# ? May 28, 2020 18:52 |
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wizzardstaff posted:On the subject of the value of Hork-Bajir life versus human, Andalite, etc: This reminded me of the extremely web 1.0 website dedicated to debunking Andalite torsos. ANDALITE TRUTH DOT ORG
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# ? May 28, 2020 20:05 |
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We posting Animemes now?
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# ? May 28, 2020 22:27 |
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This thread just went from good to great
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# ? May 28, 2020 22:28 |
Elfangor picked up Americana pretty quick, homeboy rolled around in his mustang listening to the stones and chugging doctor pepper
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# ? May 28, 2020 22:31 |
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I still have this saved on my phone, I'm not entirely sure when I got it Yeah this moment, unsurprisingly, has a bunch of fan art for it EDIT: If I recall correctly, not only does Elfangor drive around the Taxxon homeworld blasting tunes and drinking a pie plate full of Dr Pepper, he also drives his 'Stang into the midst of a Taxxon civil war like a knight on his noble steed ninjahedgehog fucked around with this message at 22:36 on May 28, 2020 |
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holy gently caress that's amazing
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# ? May 28, 2020 23:06 |
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Elfangor is the best character to die immediately in the first book as a tragic mentor
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# ? May 28, 2020 23:32 |
what song would be most appropriate (or inappropriate) to be blasting out of the stereo while that's happening
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# ? May 28, 2020 23:33 |
I specifically recall it being honky tonk blues
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# ? May 28, 2020 23:35 |
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PetraCore posted:Elfangor is the best character to die immediately in the first book as a tragic mentor
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