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CharlestonJew posted:he was talking about the gameplay footage, which was recorded on easy mode, but meatwadisgod was not playing the game in the footage, meaning your response of "stop playing on easy" makes no sense whatsoever. unless meatwadisgod was in fact the person playing in the footage, in which case what the gently caress are you doing posting get back to work bitch Neil Druckmann found out about my posts and abducted my dog please call the police
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MeatwadIsGod posted:Neil Druckmann found out about my posts and abducted my dog please call the police you're going to need to tell us the name of your dog before we're capable of feeling any empathy towards you
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May 28, 2020 00:31
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This is like Come and See: The Game except bad and totally missing the point.
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May 28, 2020 00:32
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I feel for the ones who, when the purge comes, will have their whole extended family murdered, but only when the family dog gets brought before them will they be able to summon any emotion for it. It does seem like both the final stage of something and a eternal return in human behavior.
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May 28, 2020 00:44
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Will the dog's yelping come out of the DS4 speaker? That would really add an extra 'oomph' to your emotions.
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May 28, 2020 00:58
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Codependent Poster posted:Remember, the word fun is banned or some poo poo by ND! is it impossible to make a game with uncomfortable things in it or just in this instance. alternately is it impossible to make a good game that isnt fun, and if so what does that imply for games next to other art and media.
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May 28, 2020 01:03
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i think it's possible to make a good game that isn't fun, I just don't think ND or really any AAA studio is able to do it
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May 28, 2020 01:04
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ErrEff posted:Will the dog's yelping come out of the DS4 speaker? That would really add an extra 'oomph' to your emotions.
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Relax Or DIE posted:i think it's possible to make a good game that isn't fun, I just don't think ND or really any AAA studio is able to do it i know you do but im more interested in the people who post things like "they forgot the fun" because it implies that its a requirement
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May 28, 2020 01:07
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Relax Or DIE posted:i think it's possible to make a good game that isn't fun, I just don't think ND or really any AAA studio is able to do it Eh. There's a real argument to be made for something like Death Stranding which is not 'fun' in a remotely traditional sense but still is undeniably an AAA title and good at what it is trying to do. This War Of Mine is an Ubisoft-published game that is absolutely not fun in any normal sense of the word but still is very effective at what it does.
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May 28, 2020 01:08
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i thought death stranding was real fun but i also play like an hour of american truck sim a day so maybe it's me that's the problem
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May 28, 2020 01:09
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Can we admire how the trailer highlights "multiple settings" and "interior & exterior environments for the player to navigate"? AND ROPES? Next you'll tell me Ellie has a jump button. Hmm I think the seven years were spent all on crispy dog FX
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May 28, 2020 01:10
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"We're going to do something that we've never done before..." *Shows gameplay*
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May 28, 2020 01:14
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*An overgrown FEDRA GATE with BARBED WIRE. BIG BLOCK-LETTER GRAFFITI: "gently caress FEDRA".* This level of Environmental Storytelling is Unprecedented. I do like the Hotline Miami/Ice Cube. It's nice they're humanizing their enemies but the character writing has to be there first. Is it just me or does every person talk the same
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May 28, 2020 01:23
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I liked the dialogue and was sad when Ellie brutally murdered them. I think that means that the devices they're using are working. Also it's gonna be very weird to walk down apocalyptic Seattle boardwalk, I'm gonna wanna loot the first Starbucks
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ImpAtom posted:Eh. There's a real argument to be made for something like Death Stranding which is not 'fun' in a remotely traditional sense but still is undeniably an AAA title and good at what it is trying to do. This War Of Mine is an Ubisoft-published game that is absolutely not fun in any normal sense of the word but still is very effective at what it does. Pathologic is a perfect example of a great game that's not designed to be fun imo. Death Stranding's traversal isn't designed to be fun for the most part (except ziplines and maybe the motorbike on a paved road) but I'd say its combat segments are. Obviously the Pathologic games have leeway as indie titles that AAA ones don't. I think Death Stranding probably pushed it as far as a AAA game can, considering how much grief it got at launch. I hope it was profitable but I doubt it. I figure Druckmann was just trying to be provocative when he said that TLOU2 isn't supposed to be fun because if that were true gameplay would look radically different from what it is. I've already talked this to death though. MeatwadIsGod fucked around with this message at 01:39 on May 28, 2020 |
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I like the gameplay loop of picking guys off from the shadows, getting spotted with a mad scramble to take 1 or 2 guys out as quick as possible before the rest converge on your position, and then getting away to hide again. the incredibly bleak atmosphere turns me off from it though
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May 28, 2020 01:37
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CharlestonJew posted:I like the gameplay loop of picking guys off from the shadows, getting spotted with a mad scramble to take 1 or 2 guys out as quick as possible before the rest converge on your position, and then getting away to hide again. the incredibly bleak atmosphere turns me off from it though Yeah, same. I think one of the coolest things about TLoU is how smoothly it transitions between stealth and a type of action where you're always scrambling and needing to improvise to take people out quickly, and then back to stealth, and then back to action. This only really applies if you're playing on Hard mode or higher since Normal gives you plentiful ammo, but it's a good gameplay loop.
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May 28, 2020 01:57
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lol that dog got toasted. war is hell
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May 28, 2020 02:04
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It's starting to feel like Naughty Dog resents having had to make this sequel and has decided to make it as grueling an experience as possible. I had to nope out of the streamed live gameplay shown earlier after the hideously realistic-looking throat stab.
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May 28, 2020 02:52
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Ham posted:Action sells a whole lot better than stealth. https://twitter.com/AerospaceCowboy/status/1265796216060772355
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May 28, 2020 05:39
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Mae posted:I liked the dialogue and was sad when Ellie brutally murdered them. yeah. i am glad they are making the "baddies" actually feel like people instead of drones or out and out psychos like other games, its different and i like stuff that makes you feel gross sometimes.
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May 28, 2020 06:08
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:lol that dog got toasted. war is hell
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May 28, 2020 06:23
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Stux posted:i know you do but im more interested in the people who post things like "they forgot the fun" because it implies that its a requirement A video game being fun to play is definitely 100% a requirement for me
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May 28, 2020 08:35
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eML5icfq5VM Looks a lot like the first game but with dog, good job ND really pushing gaming forward. Oh cool crafting system, batman vision and bow that's really hot in gaming right now.
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May 28, 2020 08:58
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smdh at ND putting dialouge and guns in this game, couldnn't they thought of somthing new??
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May 28, 2020 11:11
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game looks good, combat & stealth look even better and more fluid than in the first game and the impact from hitting/shooting enemies is going to be really satisfying violence is rad
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May 28, 2020 11:14
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fridge corn posted:A video game being fun to play is definitely 100% a requirement for me do you carry this limitation over to other media or is it only games
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I require that all television, cinema, music, sculpture, painting, and puppetry be fun to play as well
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JustaDamnFool posted:smdh at ND putting dialouge and guns in this game, couldnn't they thought of somthing new?? It would be nice to have some of the things they had in the old gameplay reveal.
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Stux posted:do you carry this limitation over to other media or is it only games Depends on your definition of “fun”. If you mean “enjoyable” then yeah, I do. I’m not going to sit myself down for a few hours of watching the grimmest atrocity footage out there minus any context or a sub-Asylum grade garbage movie. Not everything has to be a rollicking happy fun adventure but at some point it has to be an enjoyable experience to be worth doing as entertainment. Maybe it’s enjoyable because of the emotion and drama or because you learn something. Schindlers List or a documentary on the AIDS crisis in the 80s aren’t “fun” but there is still enjoyment to be had there. Note the bit about “as entertainment” up there. Video games and movies etc get held to a different standard than, say, an instructional DVD about how to use Excel. A textbook and a novel get judged on different criteria despite both being books. Pretty much anything involving a PlayStation is going to fit into the entertainment rubric as far as I’m concerned.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Depends on your definition of “fun”. If you mean “enjoyable” then yeah, I do. I’m not going to sit myself down for a few hours of watching the grimmest atrocity footage out there minus any context or a sub-Asylum grade garbage movie. Not everything has to be a rollicking happy fun adventure but at some point it has to be an enjoyable experience to be worth doing as entertainment. Maybe it’s enjoyable because of the emotion and drama or because you learn something. Schindlers List or a documentary on the AIDS crisis in the 80s aren’t “fun” but there is still enjoyment to be had there. youve just tried to redefine fun to the point schindlers list or a documentary about AIDS is "fun" or even enjoyable, theyre explicitly neither and not supposed to be either. no one enjoys watching things like that but pure enjoyment or fun isnt the sole single metric for media and nor should it be.
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May 28, 2020 13:29
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Human Centipede 3 is the most fun but Human Centipede 1 is the best one
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There are definitely things that are informative or fulfilling to engage in in spite of not being fun. "Contrived videogame scenario where you are forced to kill someone's dog every few minutes" does not, immediately, seem like one of those things to me.
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Stux posted:youve just tried to redefine fun to the point schindlers list or a documentary about AIDS is "fun" or even enjoyable, theyre explicitly neither and not supposed to be either. no one enjoys watching things like that but pure enjoyment or fun isnt the sole single metric for media and nor should it be. Learning things and emotional, dramatic, harrowing stories can be entertaining without being “fun” in the way that a comedy or a Super Mario Bros game is, yes. This is why I expanded “fun” to include entertaining. I think “fun” is an idiotic metric for media but “entertaining” works for most. This is the key difference between, for example, Schindler’s List, a holocaust documentary, and two hours of un edited genocide footage without commentary.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Learning things and emotional, dramatic, harrowing stories can be entertaining without being “fun” in the way that a comedy or a Super Mario Bros game is, yes. This is why I expanded “fun” to include entertaining. And this is what they're going for, regardless of people's expectations about the execution.
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May 28, 2020 13:40
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Schindler's List but the gas chamber and oven scenes are touted as groundbreaking entertainment features
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Cyrano4747 posted:Learning things and emotional, dramatic, harrowing stories can be entertaining without being “fun” in the way that a comedy or a Super Mario Bros game is, yes. This is why I expanded “fun” to include entertaining. i didnt choose the metric, people said "fun to play" so its meaningless for you to move that over to include movies that are extremely unfun to watch as fun. i dont agree either with calling things like schindlers list or an AIDS documentary entertaining and find that distasteful, personally.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIWss-_5HGM this is gonna be me, but with dogs
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