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What’s a good shooty army BESIDES Tau at the moment? Feels like admech might be up there...
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May 28, 2020 17:38
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ffoecaf posted:I think that the Thin Their Ranks strat just revealed how blast weapons will work too. Max hits if the unit is as equal or greater than max shots That's pretty elegant if it's the case. Might lead to some weird edge cases, but eh, fire your big guns first
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May 28, 2020 17:39
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ffoecaf posted:I think that the Thin Their Ranks strat just revealed how blast weapons will work too. Max hits if the unit is as equal or greater than max shots It also revealed that Helverins are going to own even more. Specifying units of 6 or more instead of a unit keyword (INFANTRY etc) is going to have people thinking twice before dropping max-sized Gravis units which is a nice design decision.
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May 28, 2020 17:39
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Gameko posted:What’s a good shooty army BESIDES Tau at the moment? Feels like admech might be up there... Ad Mech is a great option that also has some solid melee options if you wanted to mix things up a little.
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May 28, 2020 17:46
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raverrn posted:Auto-hits on your Warden on his last damage profile or against Flyers is going to be a huge boon. Yeah, but that means I have to get a Warden. I just hope that the strats for the Gallant and Crusader are as good, since those are the ones I already have. Gameko posted:What’s a good shooty army BESIDES Tau at the moment? Feels like admech might be up there... AdMech is decent, and may be getting better in a week or so once we can actually read all of Engine War. Imperial Guard is the classic gunline army aside from Tau. Massed tanks and artillery screened by waves of cheap infantry still works. Marines, particularly if you choose the right Chapter, can be one of the best shooty armies in the game if you build it that way. Of course Marines can also be one of the best hybrid and melee armies if you build them that way too. That's the thing about Marines, they have so many unit choices, strats, and variations by Chapter that you can make Marines be good at anything.
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May 28, 2020 18:07
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/05/28/skulls-for-the-skull-throne-4/ https://store.steampowered.com/sale/skulls/ Skull for the skull throne! Steam is having a Warhammer sale so this is your chance to put all that Quarantine free time into use beyond clearing your backlog. Not to mention a bunch of extra stuff to a lot of the games.
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May 28, 2020 18:16
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ffoecaf posted:I think that the Thin Their Ranks strat just revealed how blast weapons will work too. Max hits if the unit is as equal or greater than max shots I dont think that's accurate because the idea is you can carry PA forward to 9th edition and they said this was "Designed with 9th edition in mind". Why make a strategem for something that's going to be a core game mechanic?
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May 28, 2020 18:32
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jadebullet posted:In anticipation of 9th ed giving us close combat marines and devastators, ive been going through the first Badab War book again for inspiration. I forgot how good that book was. I wish Black Library would give it a Horus Heresy treatment, but that probably won't happen. Hopefully one of these days I can get the second book without having to sell a kidney. Stuff like this is partly why I dislike primaris marines. There are so many cool historical campaigns that won't be possible if they phase out the regular guys.
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May 28, 2020 18:40
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Safety Factor posted:The FW Badab War books were so loving good. I'm so glad I got the boxed set before it went out of print. I would read the heck out of a full BL treatment of them. I would also love to own a Mantis Warriors or Executioners army one day and play in a Badab campaign/narrative event, but that's pretty far down my project pipeline. They could always just write more campaigns like the badab ones. Primaris don't inherently invalidate that type of book.
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May 28, 2020 18:43
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RagnarokAngel posted:I dont think that's accurate because the idea is you can carry PA forward to 9th edition and they said this was "Designed with 9th edition in mind". My guess is that the auto cannons aren't blast weapons in 9th.
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May 28, 2020 18:46
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Booley posted:They could always just write more campaigns like the badab ones. Primaris don't inherently invalidate that type of book.
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May 28, 2020 18:46
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Safety Factor posted:But I want Badab, not something "like Badab". Well you can play your book that was released in the past with the models that were available for its release (which, shockingly, are still available and show no signs of going anywhere).
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May 28, 2020 18:50
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Booley posted:Well you can play your book that was released in the past with the models that were available for its release (which, shockingly, are still available and show no signs of going anywhere).
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May 28, 2020 18:52
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Safety Factor posted:Can you be less condescending about this? You know what I mean. Fwiw I'm not convinced the phase-out is happening. I don't think we ever get new small Marines again, but as long as the kits remain profitable they probably aren't going anywhere.
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May 28, 2020 19:22
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Don't tall to Booley he's like the kid that plays the I'm not touching you game. I get what you mean, Badab was non-primaris marine based an you want that now primaris ina can Badab an anyone who thinks the small marine line isn't on the block eventually "because its available now" is just intentionally obtuse.
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May 28, 2020 19:23
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Safety Factor posted:But I want Badab, not something "like Badab". You should go check out Death of a Rubricist, he's been converting up Primaris models for Nova Terra Interregnum and Badab War campaigns.
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May 28, 2020 19:25
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Im all for fluff but the badab war books have a whole page dedicated to doing alt history versions of it, who cares if you bring primaris to a badab war campaign its about having fun not fake space history re-enactments.
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May 28, 2020 19:30
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Wrong height for marines in 901.M41
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May 28, 2020 19:35
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Safety Factor posted:Can you be less condescending about this? You know what I mean. Its not condescending. There is nothing preventing you from taking an old campaign book and using it as inspiration to recreate the scenarios using the current ruleset.
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May 28, 2020 19:35
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Safety Factor posted:But I want Badab, not something "like Badab". I dont get what you want then? If you just want to use the old books, use the old books. You said you didn't even want something like it, i.e. not a remake of it so what do you want? Just use the marines you have.
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May 28, 2020 19:38
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RagnarokAngel posted:I dont get what you want then? If you just want to use the old books, use the old books. You said you didn't even want something like it, i.e. not a remake of it so what do you want? Just use the marines you have. Safety Factor posted:There are so many cool historical campaigns that won't be possible if they phase out the regular guys. Y'all can relax a bit, it was just idle musing.
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May 28, 2020 19:46
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I don't think they're going to just drop all the small marines one day, but I do think they'll slowly be relegated to Legends over the next few editions.
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May 28, 2020 20:16
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JackMann posted:I don't think they're going to just drop all the small marines one day, but I do think they'll slowly be relegated to Legends over the next few editions. I for one look forward to all the de-primaris'd conversions in the future for retrohammer.
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May 28, 2020 20:37
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People will feel really smug when tacticals are retired in like 30 years and tell everyone they told us so.
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May 28, 2020 20:47
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Primaris chat? PRIMARIS PICTURE 
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May 28, 2020 20:57
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Just lol if you haven't started calling primaris models "regular space marines models" and the others "old space marine models" The future is now and cant fit in rhinos, boomers.
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May 28, 2020 21:10
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Hihohe posted:Just lol if you haven't started calling primaris models "regular space marines models" and the others "old space marine models" 
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May 28, 2020 21:14
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Wait... was it rhinos that primaris couldnt technically embark into?
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May 28, 2020 21:16
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Yes, that and Land Raiders as well.
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May 28, 2020 21:26
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RagnarokAngel posted:I dont think that's accurate because the idea is you can carry PA forward to 9th edition and they said this was "Designed with 9th edition in mind". It's for an autocannon which I doubt will be a blast weapon, and to make it work with 8th they couldn't have a strategem that just says 'turn this into a blast weapon'. Corrode posted:Fwiw I'm not convinced the phase-out is happening. I don't think we ever get new small Marines again, but as long as the kits remain profitable they probably aren't going anywhere. I feel like old marines will stick around until they stop selling or the molds break.
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May 28, 2020 21:35
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I actually like the tactical marine kit way more than the intercessor kit, from a modelling perspective. I'm not sure exactly why, it's just more fun for me personally to build a small marine.
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May 28, 2020 21:41
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RagnarokAngel posted:I dont think that's accurate because the idea is you can carry PA forward to 9th edition and they said this was "Designed with 9th edition in mind". Yeah, it sounds like there's an autohit mechanic coming
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May 28, 2020 21:47
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The intercessor kit isn't all that great from a modelling standpoint with how weirdly the models have been cut. It does make for rather limited poses, even if a lot of the arm options are neat. Hopefully they'll fix that in a future version of it.
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May 28, 2020 21:47
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Strelok604 posted:
Looking good mate, those look like you had fun putting them together. If you wanted to make them more shiny - and it’s a stylistic choice that’s totally up to you - the yellow paint you’ve used for the trim is the perfect undercoat to apply a layer of Auric Armour Gold with a Seraphim Sepia shade. Add some silver edge highlighting and the result is quite a vibrant gold that really shines in the sunlight. It’s what I used for my Necrons and I’m trying to find a decent picture so you can see what it looks like. If you have a model you don’t mind experimenting with give it a try, I think you might like the result.
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May 28, 2020 21:54
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RagnarokAngel posted:People will feel really smug when tacticals are retired in like 30 years and tell everyone they told us so. Yeah, GW is just gonna stop releasing new smolmarines outside of one-offs or the occasional kit refresh while Primaris will get all the new toys and lore and basically every important new space marine thing
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May 28, 2020 21:59
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luckily my spiky marines are safe
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May 28, 2020 22:44
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Then in 2030 Forgeworld will start doing new Mark VII marines in resin to cash in on the nostalgia of 'old marines', again
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May 28, 2020 22:46
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Cooked Auto posted:The intercessor kit isn't all that great from a modelling standpoint with how weirdly the models have been cut. It does make for rather limited poses, even if a lot of the arm options are neat. Exactly, thank you! The poses are admittedly a bit more dynamic, but I feel like I have less overall control of what it ends up looking like.
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May 28, 2020 22:48
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protip: assemble your primaris marine first, then use a hobby knife or saw to repose or replace!
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gw's line of hosed up tiny space marines with their amazing poseable... waist joint connected to various forms of powersquat and maybe a set of kneeling legs if you're lucky.
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