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goddamnedtwisto posted:Once again, if you all just bought Fine Italian Motorcycles this wouldn't be a problem because you would already have a trickle charger, jump starter, and possibly a spare battery just laying around, and plenty of practice in using them all. Thanks for reminding me of my poor financial decisions and the money I wasted on my Monster 1200 and "assorted bits" (163 of them apparently) that I don't have anymore Deketh fucked around with this message at 15:35 on May 29, 2020 |
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Spangly A posted:What's actually being argued is whether harassment and online stalking is fine and that trans people should be forced to defend their existence to bigots in a space they use, where they are open about their identities. This is loving dangerous poo poo. I always feel that stating "what's being argued" is a bit dangerous. That's not what I'm arguing and, in my mind at least, "cancel culture" has moved far beyond no-platforming to people genuinely arguing that even individual debate is harmful and that the left (well, liberals, more usually) should just put up a brick wall of flat-out denial until the problem goes away (it won't). Given that conflating of two things, it's quite dangerous to assume that you're discussing at one extreme of that or the other. You and I are clearly having two different discussions using very similar terminology and the dangers in that should be highlighted. I'm not arguing that safe spaces shouldn't exist, far from it. A lot of folks will hear the argument for safe spaces though and understand that applies to individual praxis too. That is also some loving dangerous poo poo because nothing turns an angry youth into fash more quickly than that brick wall. Hounding pissflaps out of the forums was a Good Thing imo. Just for the record.
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The letting agent for the house I rent a room in has started sending a cleaner round again but they didn't loving bother to give us a date or time so we could social distance, and she hasn't been given a mask or anything Is there anything I can do? This isn't safe for any of us but least of all her, for gently caress's sake :/
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https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1266335781775380480
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Is it an HMO property? If so I think your options are limited as the landlord has right of access to common areas.
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bionic vapour boy posted:The letting agent for the house I rent a room in has started sending a cleaner round again but they didn't loving bother to give us a date or time so we could social distance, and she hasn't been given a mask or anything If you get agreement for the people in the shared property (HMO?) then you probably can negotiate as a group to lay out some terms about how it is done in future. Speaking to the cleaner about it as well would be a good idea.
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turns out letting a deadly virus run loose through your country might turn you into a pariah state, who knew?Sweden left out of Nordic border reopenings posted:A Nordic rift has opened up over plans to ease coronavirus restrictions, with Sweden excluded from plans by Denmark and Norway to reopen their borders to tourists from some countries next month. personally I'm looking forward to the whinging from the Boris supporting papers when it turns out that nobody in Europe wants a bunch of virus riddled Brits on their beaches this summer or are they still pretending they're going to do an "air bridge" lo l
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Tory candidate for London Mayor Shaun Bailey today tweeted this: https://twitter.com/ShaunBaileyUK/status/1266321093868036105 He is pretending that the Tory Government did not force Sadiq Khan to accept those conditions as part of the recent £1.6bn Transport for London bailout, which was reported 2 weeks ago. The nature of the reporting varied. The Standard led with the fact that the Tories insisted on these conditions: Khan forced to hike congestion charge after TfL bail-out But the Metro didn't mention it at all. The Sun avoided it as well, but went further by packing its article with quotes from Tory politicians and gammons, including... Shaun Bailey: The Sun posted:Tory candidate Shaun Bailey added: "TfL’s bailout was only necessary because of the financial negligence shown by Sadiq Khan. To try to deflect responsibility for his policy failures isn’t just a failure of leadership, it is a lie. That last sentence is the Tory mayoral candidate for London blatantly laying out the strategy and claiming Londoners are going to love it because they too lust for the destruction of Khan. Transport for London published a letter proving that the Government insisted on the measures they are now blaming on Khan. It is from Transport Secretary Grant Shapps to Sadiq Khan, and is appended to this agenda PDF: http://content.tfl.gov.uk/board-20200602-agenda-and-papers-supplentary.pdf The letter starts on page 33. The conditions begin on page 35, point 12. I'm going to quote them here, in my own order. HGM = Her Majesty's Government. Dft = Department for Transport. HMT = Her Majesty's Treasury. LEZ = Low Emission Zone. ULEZ = Ultra Low Emission Zone. First we have the conditions everyone hates most: quote:12.e. Bringing forward to the London COVID Transport Task Force travel demand management proposals as soon as practicable to optimise the use of the available safe transport capacity, including but not limited to temporary suspension of free travel for Freedom Pass and 60 plus card holders during peak and the suspension of free travel for u18s, subject to discussions in the working group about how it is to be operationalised Second, the expenditure maximising conditions: quote:12.a. Maximising service levels on all networks to full normal service, apart from Night Tube, weekend night buses and any other services agreed by the London Covid Transport Task Force as soon as possible but within four weeks; But on the other hand: quote:17. In managing its business during the Support Period, TfL will take all reasonable steps to minimise the Extraordinary Support Grant in line with this agreement, including maximising its revenue and minimising expenditure. The Extraordinary Support Grant total will vary depending on how this goes: quote:6. These amounts are based on a forecast funding shortfall of £1.6bn for the Support Period. It is recognised that there is a high level of uncertainty in predicting the future revenue and costs for the organisation for the Support Period, in particular as HMG guidance on dealing with the situation develops. To the extent that the actual funding shortfall is greater or lesser than £1.6bn then the amount of Extraordinary Grant and TfL borrowing will increase pro rata, up to a maximum of £1.9bn in aggregate or reduce pro rata accordingly But this is also a takeover of TFL by the Government: quote:22. Two HMG appointed Special Representatives will attend all TfL Board meetings, being able to raise questions at the Board, request additional information as reasonably required and report back to the Secretary of State on these matters. And finally, WTF is this Orwellian bullshit? quote:27. The Government has asked the Mayor to confirm he will increase fares by RPI plus 1% on all modes from Jan 2021 as proposed in the TfL business plan. The Mayor will take this decision on advice of TfL based on forecasts and other relevant factors. The Mayor has agreed with the Government that his intention is to adhere to the fares increases sought by Government and proposed in the TfL business plan.
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namesake posted:If you get agreement for the people in the shared property (HMO?) then you probably can negotiate as a group to lay out some terms about how it is done in future. Speaking to the cleaner about it as well would be a good idea. Yeah I'll have a word with the others I think. It's an HMO but I get on pretty okay with them all so that's definitely doable.
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I said to a family member this morning "People are just going to see the new rule that it's ok for six people to congregate and completely miss/ignore the whole whilst maintaining social distance and preferably wearing a mask". I just went for a bike ride* and welp! Quarantine is over! Ice cream trucks plying their trade, people standing around in groups a foot apart chatting away entirely unmasked. All over the loving place. The same people who are going to be astonished corona comes roaring back. For fucks sake, I despair sometimes. *Fully masked, gloved up, and steering the gently caress away from any other person.
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Deptfordx posted:I said to a family member this morning "People are just going to see the new rule that it's ok for six people to congregate and completely miss/ignore the whole whilst maintaining social distance and preferably wearing a mask". it's been getting like this for a couple of weeks round here, but the hot weather, this stupid guidance and cumgate definitely aren't helping we are so hosed Coronavirus: half of those with symptoms not isolating, says Sage
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yeah the government gave up before ever really trying. even producing masks within 3 months was entirely too much for them. i think they're just gonna try to keep things normal-ish while loads more people die than normal the media will ask some extremely epic questions and get some extremely pathetic lies. these videos will get some real good views our death rate being higher than everyone elses will become a partisan issue and the vast majority of people wont even know its worse cause the papers they read won't mention it as anything but inevitable there will be an economic depression anyway so we'll need to tighten our belts to deal with the heroic and profligate government spending to keep us safe from the chinavirus etc etc
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Communist Thoughts posted:the media will ask some extremely epic questions and get some extremely pathetic lies. It won't even be lies, it'll just be Gove wishing us well as Burley asks where the masks are, why the care homes are full of corpses, why the app has disappeared and why track and trace has failed.
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XMNN posted:it's been getting like this for a couple of weeks round here, but the hot weather, this stupid guidance and cumgate definitely aren't helping Why should they, it’s apparently reasonable and legal to both drive 260 miles, drive to a local tourist hotspot and drive to hospital while showing covid symptoms, so...
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Deketh posted:Thanks for reminding me of my poor financial decisions and the money I wasted on my Monster 1200 and "assorted bits" (163 of them apparently) that I don't have anymore The poor decision is the second half of that sentence, right?
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Drone_Fragger posted:Why should they, it’s apparently reasonable and legal to both drive 260 miles, drive to a local tourist hotspot and drive to hospital while showing covid symptoms, so... this was actually before then so God knows how much worse it's going to get now quote:In an April report to the government’s Scientific Advisory Group on Emergencies (Sage), behavioural science experts said “rapid” research was needed on how best to get people to comply with self-isolation advice given that “only around 50%” took the precaution when they developed a cough or fever, according to Department of Health tracking in England. seems like an entirely predictable side effect of abandoning testing and tracing, I feel like the number of people who would self isolate with a positive test result would be a lot higher
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https://twitter.com/bbcferguswalsh/status/1266376699299549192?s=21 SAGE isn't at open rebellion yet, but they're getting there.
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they should honestly just resign, I think that's why I'm so annoyed at whitty et al they are allowing their scientific/medical credentials to be used as camouflage for politically motivated actions that they must know will probably kill tens of thousands of people
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Sunak has announced the changes to furlough. He says he is going to help us all go back to work. Ignore that your work may be closed right now.
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/bbcferguswalsh/status/1266376699299549192?s=21 didnt they let all this happen anyway? arent they the ones who went along with the herd immunity strategy at first? gently caress them, this has been a multi-spectrum failure of the whole establishment
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Skilbs posted:Sunak has announced the changes to furlough. He says he is going to help us all go back to work. Ignore that your work may be closed right now. As we know from UC 'help back to work' = cut off all means of financial support
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Disnesquick posted:I've got a twenty-year-old relative who often visits my family, who does indeed come out with this crap. The issue isn't with any of this though, it's that he's got not job and no girlfriend and wants both, and that the far-right poison machine keeps feeding him explanations as to why this is the fault of trans folk and Muslims. Engaging with somebody one on one in a non-public arena is a very good, valuable and effective way to make a difference. It is also not "debate". Debates have a very important thing - an audience. You're not trying to convince your opponent in a debate, you're trying to convince an audience. Sadly, liars, bullshitters and shills find it much easier to win over an audience than somebody who is arguing in bad faith. It can take 5 seconds to make a bullshit claim about something and 10 minutes to refute that same claim. It's an asymmetric battlefield where those with no shame have the upper hand by miles. WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 17:22 on May 29, 2020 |
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Communist Thoughts posted:didnt they let all this happen anyway? arent they the ones who went along with the herd immunity strategy at first? Nah, it was that cummies was both allowed to interfere with SAGE and their advice was relayed to johnson via the eugenics egg
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goddamnedtwisto posted:The poor decision is the second half of that sentence, right? I mean, yeah. But only when it's summer!
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Mebh posted:yikes those search results. CGI Stardust posted:what does this mean in this context? the search results are, uh, spectacularly unhelpful oh no OH NO I was just trying to come up with a very British insult like calling people "weapons" or "ornaments" or "baking sheets" and boy howdy did I make an error
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Ms Adequate posted:oh no I'm shocked you weren't already aware tbh
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https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1266356645220831236?s=20
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Skilbs posted:Sunak has announced the changes to furlough. He says he is going to help us all go back to work. Ignore that your work may be closed right now. Employers will need to cover NI and pensions from August, 10% of pay from September and 20% from October. And then from November... gently caress knows.
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wtf is "transgenderism"?
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quote:Q. If there’s a second spike and reimposing of lockdown measures, will you switch the furlough scheme back or would it just be over? also now the national medical director for NHS England seems to be avoiding answering difficult questions, not just politicians quote:Q. If the alert level hasn’t gone down [from 4 to 3], why are we loosening things up? e: although tbf to sunak that question is based on a flawed premise, I can't see them bothering to lock down again XMNN fucked around with this message at 17:49 on May 29, 2020 |
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My girlfriend got made redundant yesterday, to no surprise (she's a make up artist) - just wondering if anyone has been in the same boat with updating UC details? I'm claiming UC, and she had to make an account as we live together despite working - she's updated it to say she's made redundant but will that be enough for them to kick into gear and pay her that whopping £400 a month, or will she have to make a fresh claim?
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Miftan posted:I'm shocked you weren't already aware tbh I know, I have failed the thread and all horny perverts
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XMNN posted:they should honestly just resign, I think that's why I'm so annoyed at whitty et al they are allowing their scientific/medical credentials to be used as camouflage for politically motivated actions that they must know will probably kill tens of thousands of people those two are just psychotic monsters like the rest of the tories. the one who looks like a corpse eating ghoul has had no compunction about outright lying about matters of public health and does so at every briefing he's in
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https://twitter.com/tristandross/status/1266399375347068929?s=19
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Goldskull posted:My girlfriend got made redundant yesterday, to no surprise (she's a make up artist) - just wondering if anyone has been in the same boat with updating UC details? I'm claiming UC, and she had to make an account as we live together despite working - she's updated it to say she's made redundant but will that be enough for them to kick into gear and pay her that whopping £400 a month, or will she have to make a fresh claim? I get zilch from UC because I live with my furloughed partner, and when I called up one of the self employment support orgs here to ask for info the lady on the phone told me i shouldn't given UC that information. I mean I didn't want to commit welfare fraud and get deported but from what I can tell many people just do that.
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Ash Crimson posted:wtf is "transgenderism"? lmao
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jk's Normal One continues https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1266399767246110720 she's just reading about opinions about transgenderism, how dare you criticise her. also one of her tweets contains the phrase "Maya Forstater, who believes that humans are a dimorphic species" so uh, yeah, good job hiding how deep into the terf well you are there, joanne
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yeah JK and the UK in general are extremely loving terfy
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is there something cursed about being a scottish woman named Joan. Joanna Cherry, Joan McAlpine and Joanne Rowling... i'm just asking questions
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UK is a great place to be a TERF, especially if you're wealthy and/or famous. Lots of lovely ironclad libel laws to hide behind while you just ask questions
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