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Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019
I’m getting a lot of mixed signals, which at the very least means the left isn’t actively losing

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Enjoy
Apr 18, 2009

GalacticAcid posted:

I’m having a hard time getting a good read on the general public’s sentiment. I think there’s a lot of “what that cop did was wrong but there’s no reason for the looting and setting fires.”

I don't think there is such a thing as the general public. Rather, there are many constituencies who have their own biases. People who follow CNN and MSDNC are going to skew to certain demographics and have a false consciousness already.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
That’s true. I should have been more specific and formulated a more thoughtful question.

Lady Militant
Apr 8, 2020

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles.

GalacticAcid posted:

I’m having a hard time getting a good read on the general public’s sentiment. I think there’s a lot of “what that cop did was wrong but there’s no reason for the looting and setting fires.”

my msnbc lib parents think the looting and setting fires is just a natural result of unemployment for young people being insanely high and them being stuck in lovely lives. so reality is breaking through despite everything i think

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
https://twitter.com/_grendan/status/1267452024762793986?s=21

Lmao

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?
card carrying member of the GAM

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

this is probably the most anarchist talk in the US press since before world war one lol

Uranium
Sep 11, 2001

Through constant decay
Uranium creates
the radioactive ray.



it's effective? *gives more*

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

i say swears online posted:

this is probably the most anarchist talk in the US press since before world war one lol

https://twitter.com/PotlatchCommie/status/1267589016859275264?s=20

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


GalacticAcid posted:

I’m having a hard time getting a good read on the general public’s sentiment. I think there’s a lot of “what that cop did was wrong but there’s no reason for the looting and setting fires.”

there's a lot of lib thought and they'll side with the fash but a lot of people are getting radicalised when they walk out to peacefully protest and get maced in the face

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Elman
Oct 26, 2009

So I've been reading about the history of strikes, the Haymarket's Affair and so on. Can anyone recommend good books on protests and activist history? Basically, leftist theory is fun but I also wanna read more history about what's worked, what hasn't, and how progress has been made.

It doesn't have to be from an American perspective of course. I'm Spanish and it's been fun reading Homage to Catalonia and learning about CNT and La Canadenca strike.

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

thank u for ur service, communist posting comrades

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

i say swears online posted:

this is probably the most anarchist talk in the US press since before world war one lol

There's almost certainly a third red scare coming

I don't mean to be a debby downer but we know the US playbook

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Dreddout posted:

There's almost certainly a third red scare coming

I don't mean to be a debby downer but we know the US playbook

Sure, but they haven't updated their playbook in decades.

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
And to be fair, a lot of that poo poo is going to work about as well as their attempts to quell the rioting

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
i don't disagree, if anything i think the general public antipathy to the mainstream media will cause any red scare to underperform

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
https://twitter.com/andrewrush/status/1267869945452511237?s=21

everything about this just says "settlers" to me

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

huh

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
lol I just thought the video was funny and very weirdly usa specific

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/smithmarion/status/1267866869681324039

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.






:agreed:

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
as the crusty old communist tree house here in CSPAM, should we acknowledge there are hundreds more goons hanging out in here now and many of them potentially being radicalized in real time by the horror show that's going on and if so should we make some kinda "So you hate the police, now what?" class consciousness primer thingy?

edit:

the op in this thread is p. good, maybe i can remix it

LittleBlackCloud
Mar 5, 2007
xXI love Plum JuiceXx

Entirely not far enough.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

smarxist posted:

as the crusty old communist tree house here in CSPAM, should we acknowledge there are hundreds more goons hanging out in here now and many of them potentially being radicalized in real time by the horror show that's going on and if so should we make some kinda "So you hate the police, now what?" class consciousness primer thingy?

edit:

the op in this thread is p. good, maybe i can remix it

the manifesto has worked fine for 150 years and it will work for another 150

indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

Raskolnikov38 posted:

the manifesto has worked fine for 150 years and it will work for another 150

I think a lot of recent lib converts would be more open to a thread started by goons than to immediately diving into the manifesto. but I’m also an idiot. I’d just like to see more of the type of discussions that happen in this thread around the forum in general

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
yeah, I'm thinking about a sticky'd primer + Q&A

i think the manifesto is wonderful to this day, but you gotta be in a certain mindset to really absorb its message, and it's a bit romantic for TYOOL 2020

strange feelings re Daisy
Aug 2, 2000

smarxist posted:

as the crusty old communist tree house here in CSPAM, should we acknowledge there are hundreds more goons hanging out in here now and many of them potentially being radicalized in real time by the horror show that's going on and if so should we make some kinda "So you hate the police, now what?" class consciousness primer thingy?

edit:

the op in this thread is p. good, maybe i can remix it
I think it would also help to change the thread title to something indicating it's a general socialism thread to attract interested newcomers. The current title is funny to me but new folks will not understand a reference to "a spectre is haunting Europe" or guyovich.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

maybe change the thread title to something like "Cops protect property, we protect people - Anarchist/Communist thread"

then newly radicalized former libs can jump to the end where we're having a 5 page long argument about policing practices of Eastern bloc states

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Honestly just start a separate socialist recruitment thread with links to the various organizations and a recommended bibliography.

This has been more of a theoretical thread for a while and I don’t think it’s a bad thing to have a place for discussion that assumes a level of prior knowledge.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
then again who cares, do whatever

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
nah, you right, I'm gonna throw together an OP

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

hey, I'm the guy in the OP

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

Atrocious Joe posted:

Anarchist/Communist thread"

thanks for thinking of us ;)

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Karl Barks posted:

thanks for thinking of us ;)

imagine bickering today in the coolzone

anarchists are comrades where it matters

LittleBlackCloud
Mar 5, 2007
xXI love Plum JuiceXx

Top City Homo posted:

imagine bickering today in the coolzone

anarchists are comrades where it matters

except lifestylists

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE
https://twitter.com/SenSanders/status/1268204977765392386?s=19

Bold action to fight systemic racism by... paying cops more to attract 'top tier officers'

Bernie Panders

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES
Bernie Panders

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Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

GalacticAcid posted:

Bernie Panders

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