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Bobstar posted:From the Ars Technica comments section (which, for a comment section, is fairly non-terrible, if a bit liberal sometimes) That doesn't feel correct. But then you can see it all over twitter any time a new Celb does their BLM tweet huge number of the replies are calling Antifa the real fascists. The best mental gymnastics was someone saying that Antifa are anti-fasict in the same way as DPRK was democratic. BUT BUT Nazi's were socialist. Aramoro fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Jun 2, 2020 |
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https://player.fm/series/behind-the-bastards Latest BtB goes into why US cops are the way they are, and surprise surprise it's someone out of their depth using 'Killogy'. Yeah. As for mental health I can deal as I have a separate office to paint in, although I do have to take breaks off twitter/here. I worry more about my girlfriend since she got made redundant, her anxiety's through the roof at the minute.
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To flesh that out a bit rather than just reposting stupid things from other forums, behind these forums I find Ars to be one of the most readable communities of internet people, and I think that's partly because they have actual effective moderation (ie staff coming down with the ban hammer and calling out trolling, unlike every other site which loves ~~engagement~~ no matter how toxic). The people skew American soft-liberal-left-mush but of the type that could make the journey to actual left given sufficient prodding, and real world events are being a good prod right now. E: and partly because they're focussed on fairly narrow technology topics, although it's always fun to see the boohooers going "whyyy are you being mean to Trump again when he did terrible science talking, you're supposed to be a science and technology website, stop making it political!"
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Jedit posted:I think you just answered your own question, though. The militarisation of America's police is a response to the militarisation of American society in general. So long as there are all those assault rifles in circulation, disarming the cops is a pipe dream. You're literally talking about setting up the plot of Robocop - underequipped officers sent into a meat grinder of criminals with military grade weapons. Yes, a better licensing system would stop poo poo like  but even before strict gun control in the UK we got away with a comparatively lightly armed police force and didn't feel the need to throw SWAT teams at every tiny warrant* and the nazi problem isn't one that can just be solved with gun control. Saying "you can't just walk into a store and pick up a semi-auto rifle" might stop the guy who wants to kill his wife in a rage or shoot up his office, but white supremacist terror cells who are that far down the rabbit hole of sowing Mansonesque destruction will just make guns. Or nail bombs. Or they'll join the police. As an ideology they constitute a separate threat in and of themselves. *offer not valid in Northern Ireland. Bobstar posted:From the Ars Technica comments section (which, for a comment section, is fairly non-terrible, if a bit liberal sometimes) 
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Mental health: doing bad. My SSRIs ran out and I can't get an appointment with my doctor so I had to do a rapid taper off which was fun. Therapy cancelled due to covid after a year on a waiting list. They phoned round a couple of weeks after lockdown started to tell people to expect video chat appointments starting first week of May. Still waiting for a follow up to that. The state of mental health care in this country is loving disgraceful
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Tarnop posted:Mental health: doing bad. My SSRIs ran out and I can't get an appointment with my doctor so I had to do a rapid taper off which was fun. Therapy cancelled due to covid after a year on a waiting list. They phoned round a couple of weeks after lockdown started to tell people to expect video chat appointments starting first week of May. Still waiting for a follow up to that. The state of mental health care in this country is loving disgraceful Can you not get an emergency line from the pharmacy or it in a category where they cannot do that?
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Tarnop posted:Mental health: doing bad. My SSRIs ran out and I can't get an appointment with my doctor so I had to do a rapid taper off which was fun. Therapy cancelled due to covid after a year on a waiting list. They phoned round a couple of weeks after lockdown started to tell people to expect video chat appointments starting first week of May. Still waiting for a follow up to that. The state of mental health care in this country is loving disgraceful my prescription ran out and i was at the point where it needed a doctor sign off so phoned the gp who told me to use the automated line instead of online form as that would get the doctor to sign off on it cool to see another herd immunity country overtake us https://twitter.com/RARohde/status/1267746509841457152?s=20
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I had to change to a different surgery around the start of March. The new surgery claim they don't have my full records yet so can't prescribe over the phone, and my old surgery say they've sent everything so there's nothing else they can do. It turns out that I don't feel much different off the pills now that I've got past the weeks of brain zaps and insomnia, so I guess it was time to switch meds anyway. Not that they'll prescribe me anything new over the phone.
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forkboy84 posted:But I have noticed others struggling with it all and as much as I personally think we need to keep the lockdown in place for longer I'm also worried about how most people would react to that, or to a 2nd wave of Covid-19 that leads to a tightening of restrictions. Obviously the longer this goes on the worse that'll be in the end, and even more obviously our first concern should be protecting the vulnerable and reducing deaths, it's just something that's been playing on my mind a lot
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Jose posted:completely unsurprising Labour 'taking action' on racism would deprive a bunch of Labour staffers of one of their favourite pastimes.
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Also feeling the strain from being isolated. My work is not really affected and I'm lucky in that I've been able to hide away in since early March, but I really think I'm missing social contact. I don't see anyone except my partner day in, day out. Except the staff at the co-op. Motivation and concentration are way down and ADHD up and I'm really struggling to exercise which is super important to my brain health. I'm not even particularly extroverted, those guys must be climbing the walls.
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knox_harrington posted:Also feeling the strain from being isolated. My work is not really affected and I'm lucky in that I've been able to hide away in since early March, but I really think I'm missing social contact. I don't see anyone except my partner day in, day out. Except the staff at the co-op. Extroverts mostly seem to all have become vloggers and streamers. Also TikTok.
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Yeah the news is not a helpful thing to scroll. The Graun have a George Floyd section stacked on top of their usual giant Corona section, so you have to scroll halfway down the page to read about the normal terrible things that would be happening anyway. Which is why it's good this thread functions as part news distillery, part chat thread, and I for one encourage random asides (ASK me about lightbulbs! TELL me about cookery! and so on) So, never feel bad e/n-ing in here, we are here to support each other, but also duck out if the news does get too much 
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Bobstar posted:From the Ars Technica comments section (which, for a comment section, is fairly non-terrible, if a bit liberal sometimes) You’ll be pleased to hear the cook is halfway done- and the dark chocolate is probably the best fudge I’ve made so far! My own mental health hasn’t been the best- I’ve been up and down a lot, and to be honest the March/early April fudge cook did me a lot of damage (trying to find supplies in the early days of the lockdown caused me to have a complete breakdown in Tesco, which was not good..). But this time round it’s the exact opposite- despite having the biggest cook by far since I started, it’s given me something to focus on and also.. well, it’s easier to do something knowing it’s primarily for the cats’ benefit rather than my own. Also had to completely cut contact with my family for nearly a month due to my brother bullying me as he always has, my dad insisting on sharing right wing (and out and out fash ) propaganda and my mum being a decorum poisoned liberal. Spoke to my father on Saturday and explained to him that if he wants a relationship going forwards he needs to cut that poo poo out, but then he couldn’t go five minutes after agreeing before taking a pop at Sadiq Khan (I mean, gently caress Khan for multiple reasons, but he was trying to blame the congestion charge rises on him). So I’m less than hopeful about our relationship continuing. :/ But hey, the cats are both doing well, and Bob’s face has almost returned to normal. So there’s that at least!   Edit: that box is from my wife’s birthday pressie. I got her a ukulele despite frankly hating the sound of those freaky dwarf guitars. But I keep hearing her playing it and it makes me feel so much happier, because it makes /her/ happier. So I’m starting to like it I guess? Camrath fucked around with this message at 10:55 on Jun 2, 2020 |
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stev posted:Extroverts mostly seem to all have become vloggers and streamers. Also TikTok. Extroverts haven't noticed there's noone else in the room +1 that this thread has been a lifeline. Solidarity to anyone struggling Isomermaid fucked around with this message at 11:27 on Jun 2, 2020 |
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As someone who's been working throughout (well, not the very start, as I had some Annual Leave), one of the problems is that my job has changed quite significantly in that time. I was redeployed for a while, which was fine, but now I'm back "full time" in my job, but working from home for most of it The lack of structure is an issue for me, but more than that it's the fact that I'm physically and socially isolated from my colleagues, and being able to chat with my colleagues while I work is one of the things that makes my job likeable most of the time. There's nothing that's hitting me particularly hard, but the combined impact does leave me feeling rather listless.
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I'm taking this in stride, but I've always been comfortable with interacting with people at arm's length. I enjoy chatting with people just fine, but if there's nothing specific to talk about or the conversation lulls then that's the point that I'm like "great, good talk, time to do something else" and my brain just kind of disconnects and moves on. I'm extremely bad at things like hosting events and building relationships, as you might imagine, but right now there's a lot of checking in with different groups of people for brief moments and that dynamic works really well for me.
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knox_harrington posted:Also feeling the strain from being isolated. My work is not really affected and I'm lucky in that I've been able to hide away in since early March, but I really think I'm missing social contact. I don't see anyone except my partner day in, day out. Except the staff at the co-op. My greatest fear out of all this is that no one will actually look at the knock on mental and physical health effects of the lockdown. Personally myself and my wife have had a fine time, we both WFH weather's been great so we can sit in the garden. Our local wine shop started doing deliveries. It's all great. There's going to be a lot of middle class office workers who think the whole thing has been a doodle or worse that they basically survived the blitz sipping cocktails at lunchtime whilst working from home. If we still lived in the one bedroom flat with no garden in the city centre it would have been awful. What we dont want is a bunch of folk who didn't have any hassles sweeping it all away as 'oh well that's over now lets never speak of it again'. There's going to be an ongoing mental healthcare issue for a lot of people. My dad gets B12 injections that help with his general mental health and attitude but he can't get them just now so he's really suffering and lashing out at those around him. That's one isolated case but there are going to be thousands of people around the country unable to access services on top of a whole load of new cases once this is over.
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Camrath posted:Edit: that box is from my wife’s birthday pressie. I got her a ukulele despite frankly hating the sound of those freaky dwarf guitars. But I keep hearing her playing it and it makes me feel so much happier, because it makes /her/ happier. So I’m starting to like it I guess?
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It's weird, I've mostly been ok (albeit with my concentration at work somewhat shot) but about once every week, often on a Sunday afternoon, I just curl up under my duvet in bed and just...cannot come out, for a couple of hours. Or get online or interact with the world or do anything other than hide under the covers and stare at the wall. I guess it could be worse? Reading I do fine with. Been catching up on TV too, though I've tended to have a bias towards lighthearted stuff. For some reason computer gaming a lot less but maybe that's because the Good Screen is now also the Bad Screen since I'm working from home.
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josh04 posted:"extrovert" and "introvert" were invented by Myers-Briggs to sell more personality tests, don't believe the hype.  Myers-Briggs is astrology for middle managers. The Conservative Party: Won't consider alternatives to prisons because the Daily Mail complains, will consider a definition of 'quarantine' that includes getting on the bus to go to Tesco. Jippa posted:What could possibly be in that report to make them delay it?
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josh04 posted:"extrovert" and "introvert" were invented by Myers-Briggs to sell more personality tests, don't believe the hype. Introvert is a useful short-hand regardless of what the initial intention of the term was. I'm not using it as a guiding principle for how to live my life but even before I got really bad social anxiety I was intensely comfortable with my own company for extended periods of time.
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I've been mostly based at home on my own for over 10 years now and enjoy my own company anyway (my dad used to call me 'the hermit' - there were 4 kids in my family and I was one of those teens who spent most of my time in my bedroom with my record player), but there is definitely an underlying stress there, just from not being able to go and mooch round the non-essential shops a couple of times a week and some of my clothes - I don't have many - are quite literally beginning to fall apart and I need to get some new stuff (I don't order clothes online because of the pain in the rear end of returning things which rarely look like they do on the images and rarely fit properly). Also, my leg and lower back are in desperate need of deep tissue massage which I normally get monthly and I need a handyperson to come and drill holes and stuff in my walls. So far, my attempts at DIY have failed (putting pictures up which resulted in the 3M strip roulette and ruining the walls), fixing the shower pole (lasts 24 hours then kaput), fixing the toilet roll holder that came off - again, lasted 24 hours before coming off again) so that's a bit depressing. I think the most important thing is try and build a routine - nothing over demanding: personal care (diet, exercise, hygiene), home environment (washing up, cleaning), mental health (read a book - something lightweight, connect with friend or family or even a stranger, take a break from news) Some things I do: Shower daily (always have done or if no shower available, strip wash) (I realized an ex who was a nurse was in a very bad way mentally when he went from showering twice a day to not having a wash for a week. Getting him to shower daily again was a big step in getting him back on the road to recovery). Try to have a couple of days a week *completely* off-line, consecutive if possible so for me normally a weekend when I'm unlikely to have to do financial transactions or get work emails, which if you play it right can give 60 hours of peace. My main phone is a Nokia 101 and does just calls, texts and 'snake'. No internet, no apps, no whatsapp etc. I tell my sister that if she needs to contact me she'll have to phone or text not whatsapp or messenger etc. After 2 consecutive days off I rejoin the connected world with some reluctance (though I have to for family, finances, possible work reasons!) (My sister & mother find it very odd that while in self-isolation, I isolate further. She's an extrovert, I'm not. She doesn't have any concept of 'personal space'. One of my brothers fully understands. At a party for a parent's 70th some years ago I skulked off to the garden shed to get some respite from the unrelenting press of people making small talk and discovered my brother skulking in there too LOL) I don't watch tv news (except there was one week about a month ago when I got into a habit of watching Sky news first thing on getting up which I stopped) - it's just the same stuff on constant repeat and omits crucial information. Like someone else said, I really appreciate this thread as a news filter and 'expander'. I'm spending way too much time on twitter though it does provide an outlet for some frustrations (I don't give my twitter handle to friends not because I'm ashamed of my views but I can clear a pub in 5 mins when I get on a hobby horse.) Pick a book I want to read and read just 20 pages a day (I've got through two 600 pagers in two months that way). Go for a walk most days (maintaining social distance etc) Have a daily basic chores list to do daily (make bed, clean toilet, wash up, laundry) Have a long phone or zoom or messenger call with a friend once or twice a week. I've actually been surprised that some of the people I've had long conversations with have been people I rarely speak to - eg someone I worked with about 15 years ago, we were not even in the same building and rarely had much contact then, but we had over an hour's messenger chat a couple of weeks ago! The only other time we had a long chat was the night before Mubarak got booted out so 9 years ago now! Mute or unfollow FB friends (or even 'unfriend' though as I had a major cull a couple of years ago, I don't do that often these days). I know some have done the same to me because I have some friends who only want to see 'happy' posts or 'the govt needs our support in this trying time' views - I do make an effort to sprinkle happy posts in, but also do 'news' posts because I know I have a fair proportion of friends and family who just believe the BBC and either The Times or The Graun and who think they are honourable and trustworthy. Most of the time I avoid making overt political posts because you end up preaching to the converted and p'ing everyone else off. Set 2 or 3 super mini-goals to achieve over a week or a month and most days try to work towards them: clean a cupboard, wash my windows, walk up stairs 3x a day, eat right for a week, read a particular book learn the top 100 words in a language, read that magazine from my professional organisation that turns up every month (a few pages a day) - I have a stash of them unread so trying to (a) keep up with incoming (b) clear one backlog per month. 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Thanks for the kind words and sympathy goons - like I say, I twigged this was my depression finding a new way in, the sneaky bastard, when it realised my usual ways of escaping it are, if not banned any more, still come with a big dose of guilt. I'm sure I've said it before but although I often rant about the worse aspects of this thread, I can't think of a place on the internet more suitable to just unload a bunch of poo poo on so I don't feel like I'm carrying it alone. The dog now has biscuits, which she is happy with, and a thoroughly-cleaned ear, which she is rather less happy with (a labrador, so she gets blocked/infected ears fairly regularly, and cleaning it out is a mutually unpleasant job but only one of us gets treats and belly rubs at the end). I've also ordered this, which ticks a lot of boxes for me - those wooden mechanical model kits are satisfying as hell to put together, it's a weird musical instrument, and if I get it really badly wrong I can just burn the fucker.
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Borrovan posted:Honestly I think I'm gonna really struggle to adapt back to regular life when the lockdown is over. I'm legit scared about the prospect of just being expected to go outside and interact normally with people at some point. You spend your entire life convincing yourself that your anxiety is all in the head, that other people are not scary nor scared of you, everything is fine, then this whole thing has been an exercise in smashing that all down & re-learning that actually, people are scary, people are afraid of you, if you see someone coming then cross the loving road or face I feel this. Like, on the one hand, I'm desperate to get back to some of the events I've felt crushed to have missed, and to start going to some things I would probably have started doing in the time we've been locked down, but on the other hand, I don't think I'll feel safe to do that until there's a vaccine and my wife, at the very least has had it. WHich probably precludes me going to several of thos events I've been so desperately looking forward to. Let alone doing things like starting to play board games and D&D in person again when other people are comfortable going back, but I'm not. It's daunting. You're not alone in that.
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Jose posted:the mail doxxed the organisers of londons BLM rally and they're 18? I know it goes without saying but the mail are scum
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