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Guavanaut posted:There's eggs in Deuteronomy and other texts which predate the diaspora, so either Russians stole the eggs from Jews or it's a strange coincidence. The Rus' were trading with the Arab world so it's not impossible they were picking up words along the way (although of course there's a lot of dispute about how much they then influenced what became Russia).
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goddamnedtwisto posted:While we're at it I'd also make appearance covenants punishable by death. Many poor-door units have specific clauses in their leases/tenancies forbidding the use of outdoor space for anything other than a very narrowly-defined set of uses, normally excluding any form of storage or clothes drying. That's right, you can be thrown out of your home for wanting to air out a towel rather than pissing away money (and carbon emissions) on using a tumble dryer, because they're terrified of the balconies not matching the architects drawings and maybe even forcing a member of the upper classes to gaze upon the underwear of the underclass. Ugh, that stuff can get in the bin. They should indeed be banned as you say, but if not, make it so you can only forbid storage and washing on the balcony if the flat is provided with ample bike storage and a large, well ventilated utility room.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Well I had to go and check why Lee Rigby is trending on twitter. Don't recommend if you have blood pressure problems (unless it needs a boost). stev posted:I did this and thankfully the first results were explanations and condemnations of the fuckwits making this comparison so I didn't need to scroll further.  Also UKIP trending which made me all  , but then I clicked it and  https://twitter.com/GBTheGhost/status/1267833261176369158
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The heat is unending. So is the queue to vote in Parliament.
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Cerv posted:but nope, now it really looks like they're going all in on it. that desperate to have the cheering squad in behind Johnson when has to face off against Starmer each week. Isn't the chamber still limited to 50 people because of social distancing though? So all they've done is made it harder to vote, there won't actually be any extra people in the chamber.
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The Perfect Element posted:So, thread, I am finally at the point where I am genuinely frightened about the rise of fascism around the world, and want to do something about it - i.e., join an organisation(s) which combat fascism. I've had a Google and not really been able to find anything, and I couldn't see anything on the front page - so please can someone help? Just links or whatever are fine if you don't want to effortpost. Kent Anti-Racist Network (KARN) are still active I think. Pop them a message.
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Bobstar posted:I remember it because it's like the useless gun in Goldeneye, which makes the Russian connection in my head. It has about as much impact as throwing breadcrumbs at enemies, yes.
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The Perfect Element posted:So, thread, I am finally at the point where I am genuinely frightened about the rise of fascism around the world, and want to do something about it - i.e., join an organisation(s) which combat fascism. I've had a Google and not really been able to find anything, and I couldn't see anything on the front page - so please can someone help? Just links or whatever are fine if you don't want to effortpost. Anti-fascism is a strategy pursued by various leftwing ideologies rather than an isolated thing - this is why the USAs obsession with banning antifa is nonsensical because antifa is anarchists, socialists and direct action anti-racists organising fairly clandestinely to do specific things against fascists and causes of fascism, it's not a organisation as such. But for you personally - you've recognised the impending threat of fascism present in global society and want to stop it. Great! But what causes fascism? Lack of individual opportunities, acceptable and popular narratives of racial hatred and hierarchies in society, destruction of communities, social and economic, by capitalism and the scapegoating of the Other by those same forces to avoid blame, all these will cause fascist tendancies and should be fought. That's kinda vague but groups which actively organise people rather than just advocate for things are better suited to fighting the threat - trade unions banning people who are part of the BNP or NF from being members is a good example of the sort of meaningful defence and solidarity which challenges fascism rather than just saying how bad the government immigration policy is, for example. Kent is likely to have some migrant solidarity groups around to assist at Dover/Calais and they'll almost certainly have good connections to groups doing more directly anti-facist things but don't expect to get introduced to any direct action groups immediately, they'll be pretty wary of police infiltration!
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A goon applied to the Solidarity Fund today but they do not have PMs and are not on Discord. Please can they contact me (Bill Drummond) on Discord and I will get them to confirm details of their application for security. Thanks!
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Isn't the chamber still limited to 50 people because of social distancing though? So all they've done is made it harder to vote, there won't actually be any extra people in the chamber. They're doing it because the Republicans did it in the US. Cargo culting "successful" regimes seems to be the modus operandi these days.
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IrvingWashington posted:A goon applied to the Solidarity Fund today but they do not have PMs and are not on Discord. Now I can't stop thinking the person in charge of the solidarity fund is the bloke from the KLF wot set fire to a million quid
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IrvingWashington posted:A goon applied to the Solidarity Fund today but they do not have PMs and are not on Discord. They can also email the fund ( soldarity@ukmt.fund ) if they don't want to use Discord
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The Perfect Element posted:So, thread, I am finally at the point where I am genuinely frightened about the rise of fascism around the world, and want to do something about it - i.e., join an organisation(s) which combat fascism. I've had a Google and not really been able to find anything, and I couldn't see anything on the front page - so please can someone help? Just links or whatever are fine if you don't want to effortpost. Thing is though, there's been gently caress all going on lately, save for Tommy's latest Muslamic Ray Guns escapades up North which are kind of isolated to a single issue atm. There was some liberal nonsense in the papers a while back about how great it is that all the street fash have calmed down since Boris has been in power, we were all joking about how it turns out the way to combat fascism is to give them exactly what they want. It's weird though - typically, give fash an inch, they'll take a mile. Legitimising their viewpoints emboldens them, elect a Trump and they dig out the tikki torches. I have no idea what's so different this time. A terrorism researcher I'm close to reckons they're just as active as ever, but we've just pushed them off the streets and onto the web. I'm not so sure about that, since Western fash are all about overt displays of cultural dominance, which you can't do online. If I'm wrong, more co-ordinated online action might be the way forward (English Disco Lovers was a great one). But, it could just be that stuff like the aftermath of Charlottesville, the mass rise in interest in anti-fascism worldwide, and the consistent violence whenever they have one of their rallies has got them worried about delegitimising their viewpoint, like it (eventually) did in the '30s (in the UK, at least) - i.e., we're winning in the streets, but it makes gently caress all difference because their guys are in power across the world now so all they've got to do is sit tight and avoid making GBS threads their pants too publicly. It looks pretty grim to me, and the absence of actual mobilisations makes it really hard to keep people organised ready to oppose them when they start building the camps. All we can do is try to stay as involved as we can, and encourage others to do the same.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I want to nail them to the door of every planning department in the country like a council house Martin Luther. When I lived in Germany in the 70s, you weren't allowed to hang washing outside on a Sunday or use a lawnmower. There were various other things you were verboten to do on Sundays but I was only a teenager so can't remember them as mostly they didn't affect me as a kid.
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Borrovan posted:Here's a good starting place. Can't see any Kent-specific groups listed on there, but these guys look pretty solid at a glance. People can be a bit skittish with strangers for obvious reasons, but worth a try reaching out. Alternatively, if you've got a bunch of sympathetic mates, just keep an eye on social media &c for fash events, turn up, look for the red & black flags. The AFN website (first link) usually has a bunch of events listed, for London-centric stuff you can also watch Twitter accounts like Antifa Intel, London Anti-Fascist Assembly, North London Antifa &c, and you'll also see most events on Stand Up to Racism & Unite Against Fascism's websites (both groups are effectively SWP fronts & are police collaborators, don't get involved with them). Checking if KARN are still active now, and if so how open they are to new folk. Your best bet is to follow nearby antifash social media and turn up to stuff when you can. Some might be hosting reading groups or online events atm. Echoing to not link up with SUTR (more like Sit Down to Racism hur hur hur) or UAF - both poo poo and basically entirely separate from the rest of the antifascist movement. There's a big split at the moment between ethnic and civic nationalists, so a lot of their time is going into petty infighting. Generally yeah, lots of online stuff on Telegram though. There're also renewed efforts to become a legit political force in electoral politics from the ethnonat side, which is kind of scary. You still get a few of their Youtube grifters turning up to stuff like BLM demos most recently, but they're easily seen off. When lockdown is truly over and they regalvanise around whichever figures emerge victorious in their battle for leadership of the movement, I reckon there'll be some fairly hefty demonstrations. What's more, the police will likely be even less nice to our side and even nicer to theirs because of the 'antifa' label being used in relation to anti-police BLM stuff. Oh and in lighter news, at least 3 known ethnonationalist fash on the scene have died of COVID so that's nice. E: KARN's active 
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I should take the advice on not following the news/Twitter all day, it's just really tough whist I'm benched at work, I've only got training courses and applications for roles that aren't hiring. Concentration is just gone. Channel 4 is advertising Brooklyn 99 right now, set to Sound of da Police. I don't know how I'm going to re-evaluate the show but either way it seems mad inapropes.
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BizarroAzrael posted:I should take the advice on not following the news/Twitter all day, it's just really tough whist I'm benched at work, I've only got training courses and applications for roles that aren't hiring. Concentration is just gone. Yeah, cop shows are kinda of like, really? This is cool though https://twitter.com/iamstephbeatz/status/1267730471670050823
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I like this Doucette guy. https://twitter.com/greg_doucette/status/1267872430355361802?s=20 Meanwhile, in unrelated news: https://twitter.com/DickKingSmith/status/1267870859211005953?s=20 Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Jun 2, 2020 |
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Borrovan posted:Thing is though, there's been gently caress all going on lately, save for Tommy's latest Muslamic Ray Guns escapades up North which are kind of isolated to a single issue atm. There was some liberal nonsense in the papers a while back about how great it is that all the street fash have calmed down since Boris has been in power, we were all joking about how it turns out the way to combat fascism is to give them exactly what they want. It's weird though - typically, give fash an inch, they'll take a mile. Legitimising their viewpoints emboldens them, elect a Trump and they dig out the tikki torches. I have no idea what's so different this time. A terrorism researcher I'm close to reckons they're just as active as ever, but we've just pushed them off the streets and onto the web. I'm not so sure about that, since Western fash are all about overt displays of cultural dominance, which you can't do online. If I'm wrong, more co-ordinated online action might be the way forward (English Disco Lovers was a great one). But, it could just be that stuff like the aftermath of Charlottesville, the mass rise in interest in anti-fascism worldwide, and the consistent violence whenever they have one of their rallies has got them worried about delegitimising their viewpoint, like it (eventually) did in the '30s (in the UK, at least) - i.e., we're winning in the streets, but it makes gently caress all difference because their guys are in power across the world now so all they've got to do is sit tight and avoid making GBS threads their pants too publicly. It looks pretty grim to me, and the absence of actual mobilisations makes it really hard to keep people organised ready to oppose them when they start building the camps. All we can do is try to stay as involved as we can, and encourage others to do the same. Guavanaut posted:James Mason/SIEGE, William Pierce, and Atomwaffen Division for accelerating the decline of modern society. That means small leaderless cells communicating on Telegram now that Iron March has gone. Someone posted a massive leak from the IM forums that might help identify them, but my worry is the next time we hear from them it won't be grooming gangs it'll be nail bombs.
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Yeah, cop shows are kinda of like, really? https://twitter.com/JoeLoTruglio/status/1241799081799761920?s=19
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forkboy84 posted:Now I can't stop thinking the person in charge of the solidarity fund is the bloke from the KLF wot set fire to a million quid This is Radio Freedom
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Bit worse than a flashbang that one's full of basically rubber shrapnel. For when you want to put the eyes out of an entire room of people at once. I think some of them also have tear gas in too? OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jun 2, 2020 |
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Ms Adequate posted:B99 hurts me because it's copoganda while also being one of the best shows on TV Yeah it's a weird one, because it does highlight plenty of "bad cop" stuff and sometimes tries to tackle those sort of issues. It's also pretty good with race, sexuality and gender stuff. But the fact that the main characters are all "good cops" is really off putting.
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Yeah, cop shows are kinda of like, really? B99 is really loving good though and all its cast seem to be genuinely cool people who legitimately all get on well together Chelsea Peretti is also down af going by her latest retweets e: https://twitter.com/melissafumero/status/1267451157422542849 Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jun 2, 2020 |
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Ms Adequate posted:B99 hurts me because it's copoganda while also being one of the best shows on TV Its brilliant comedians playing competent police in a fantasy world where cops aren't desperate to escalate everything into violence. And gently caress, Andre Braugher is the funniest person on the show.
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stev posted:Yeah it's a weird one, because it does highlight plenty of "bad cop" stuff and sometimes tries to tackle those sort of issues. It's also pretty good with race, sexuality and gender stuff. But the fact that the main characters are all "good cops" is really off putting. I thought the episode with Terry getting racially profiled and Holt initially telling him to let it go as it's what he had done was really well done. But yes, Hitchcock and Scilly being lazy/incompetent (but also sometimes saving the day through savantism) doesn't really cut it. But it's fiction so I don't know what's fair, maybe if they acknowledge that they let too much go? How much do you have to acknowledge a harsh reality in entertainment?
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