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B, focus on gaining intel on what they are doing in Kitron
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A - I'm willing to back Tudiya's play on this. Question for Tudiya though: "Any suggestions on what I should tell people in order to calm them down on the topic? Something like 'The time is not quite right?' maybe?"
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Jun 2, 2020 22:24
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TK-42-1 posted:Is there any way you think we would be able to at least get eyes on the place? Some information about the situation might settle the restless brave Seconding this.
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Jun 2, 2020 22:26
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Tell Tudiya that we worry it is a spearhead, a staging point for additional attacks into Ur. Push for a long-term intel gathering effort. If we have any reason to believe they are mustering strength rather than just mocking us, we should revisit.
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Jun 2, 2020 22:33
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B. I want to convince Tudiya to sanction sending Paebel and perhaps a mighty man bodyguard to scout Kitron and get some real information about how much is there. Paebel scouts, the MM is for faster overland travel and stays far away, I trust Paebel to know when he'd need to stash the ride.
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Jun 2, 2020 22:36
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Schwza posted:B, focus on gaining intel on what they are doing in Kitron
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Jun 2, 2020 22:37
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B, intel gathering
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Jun 2, 2020 22:37
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B: We now have a means of observing them from a greater distance, via the Embiggeners. If we can use those to keep watch, what we learn could be useful. I fear if we do nothing we will face two Kitrons after the next jubilee, then, four, eight and so on. This might be them at their weakest.
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Jun 2, 2020 22:38
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What do you intend to do if Dor is attacked?
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Jun 2, 2020 22:42
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Jun 2, 2020 22:45
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Diogines posted:"But it is unlikely, very unlikely that Zepath will be their target on the next Jubilee if we remain to protect it, unlikely enough that I am ready to rely upon it being so. More likely they will attack other cities further up the coast, or possibly Dor." This is the most interesting bit to me, because it seems to run counter to his normally overwhelming concern for Zepath. Why do you think Zepath will be safe? Have you gotten any information to that effect while I was gone? If you think Zepath will be safe on the Jubilee, what would you advise we focus on in the meantime?
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Jun 2, 2020 22:49
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Tell him we have a "hunch" that we need to take action against Kitron, surely that will work. A
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Jun 2, 2020 22:52
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Question I'd like to reference our intrinsic knowledge of the Laurels. At the time we were given them, we were told they applied to anybody within a 'non-trivial unit of distance' from us while we wore them. Do we have any feel for if that unit of distance is far enough that us wearing them in Kavodel would apply the masking effect to somebody in Kitron or is it significantly smaller than that? Might be an Ish question. edit - relevant portion of the Intrinsic Laurels knowledge: quote:Intrinsic Knowledge of the Laurels posted: Zodiac5000 fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Jun 2, 2020 |
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Jun 2, 2020 22:54
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AJ_Impy posted:B: We now have a means of observing them from a greater distance, via the Embiggeners. If we can use those to keep watch, what we learn could be useful. I fear if we do nothing we will face two Kitrons after the next jubilee, then, four, eight and so on. This might be them at their weakest.
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Jun 2, 2020 22:59
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B. We need more information. If we ignore the problem it will only get worse. El favors those who strive against great odds for a noble cause. How can we expect El's patronage if we ignore affronts to El in his lands?
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Jun 2, 2020 23:12
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B. The ocean can field things like the Doom that's true, but it's super unlikely they have something like that at Kitron. For now, if we just leave them to do as they will then eventually they might. Although they must have some plan, having taken land so close to us, and surely it is terrible, we need to know what it is and stop it.
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Jun 2, 2020 23:21
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Bob Tuskins posted:What do you intend to do if Dor is attacked? And what does Zepath do if it becomes isolated from the rest of Ur? I know we're very isolationist and he's squirreling grain away but the strongest defense involves standing together as we saw with Acco.
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Jun 2, 2020 23:25
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A If 3dad won’t do it we should do it ourselves.
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Jun 2, 2020 23:48
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Theglavwen posted:B. The ocean can field things like the Doom that's true, but it's super unlikely they have something like that at Kitron. For now, if we just leave them to do as they will then eventually they might. Although they must have some plan, having taken land so close to us, and surely it is terrible, we need to know what it is and stop it. Agreed
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Jun 2, 2020 23:50
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TK-42-1 posted:Is there any way you think we would be able to at least get eyes on the place? Some information about the situation might settle the restless brave
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Jun 3, 2020 00:03
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Eat The King he can't be trusted to
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Jun 3, 2020 00:06
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Bob Tuskins posted:What do you intend to do if Dor is attacked?  "I have been thinking upon it for ten years. I wish to see what else may be discovered first and what the demons do, but we may offer to take in refugees, or urge Awan towards the interior. But we will not march to Dor's defense. What happened at Acco was a mistake and it will not be repeated."
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Jun 3, 2020 00:12
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Diogines posted:But it is unlikely, very unlikely that Zepath will be their target on the next Jubilee if we remain to protect it, unlikely enough that I am ready to rely upon it being so. More likely they will attack other cities further up the coast, or possibly Dor." Victis posted:This is the most interesting bit to me, because it seems to run counter to his normally overwhelming concern for Zepath. Victis posted:If you think Zepath will be safe on the Jubilee, what would you advise we focus on in the meantime? Tudiya has given you rules or public works projects before.
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Jun 3, 2020 00:15
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Jun 3, 2020 00:17
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Zodiac5000 posted:Question The part about us lighting up like a flame in the night got me thinking ; What if we used this to our advantage? Set a trap, lure whatever searches for us and annihilate it with the combined might of the balls and the shaft.
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Jun 3, 2020 00:26
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AJ_Impy posted:B: We now have a means of observing them from a greater distance, via the Embiggeners. If we can use those to keep watch, what we learn could be useful. I fear if we do nothing we will face two Kitrons after the next jubilee, then, four, eight and so on. This might be them at their weakest. This with a focus on information gathering.
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Jun 3, 2020 00:29
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Greggster posted:The part about us lighting up like a flame in the night got me thinking ; What if we used this to our advantage? Set a trap, lure whatever searches for us and annihilate it with the combined might of the balls and the shaft. We tried that. Worked decent minus a couple wrinkles from a little arrow
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Jun 3, 2020 00:31
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Greggster posted:The part about us lighting up like a flame in the night got me thinking ; What if we used this to our advantage? Set a trap, lure whatever searches for us and annihilate it with the combined might of the balls and the shaft. Would it also light up everyone who was in the stealth field as well? If so it'd blow the trap altogether.
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Jun 3, 2020 00:32
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Diogines posted:"Trust that I am confident enough to rely upon it, that Zepath will be safe upon the next Jubilee if we remain here. I will say no more on it." This sounds a lot like Melachim NDA talk to me, which really reinforces the idea that A is the correct vote.
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Jun 3, 2020 00:33
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the_steve posted:This sounds a lot like Melachim NDA talk to me, which really reinforces the idea that A is the correct vote. yeah A, i'm convinced and doubt we're convincing him if the fish get more of a finhold during the Third Jubilee we can react then I guess
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Jun 3, 2020 00:35
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I'd kinda like to wait till we get our Embiggener Tubes here and reassess the possibility of scouting.
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Jun 3, 2020 00:35
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the_steve posted:A - I'm willing to back Tudiya's play on this. Yeah, [b]A.
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Jun 3, 2020 00:55
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A Hey Dad, have you had any strange disappearances in Zepath while I was gone? No, no reason at all, just asking , aha ha. Hah.
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Jun 3, 2020 00:59
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A We can revisit this matter later
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Jun 3, 2020 01:08
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Jun 3, 2020 01:29
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the_steve posted:This sounds a lot like Melachim NDA talk to me, which really reinforces the idea that A is the correct vote. I agree. I think it’s more he’s read the actual covenant that Zepath and Ur proper are beholden to under the stipulation that no one but the King know what it is. He is way, WAY too powerful to have it be merely the Blood. It lends credence to the whole idea that while people can tell us stuff it’s not a good idea because it might give us access to powers or words that drain us faster than we are ready for. Uriah’s kashal or whatever it was at the tower to help us get our dumbass stuck is probably along the lines of what we can do. We can speak the true tongue and call upon our divine power but at what cost? I tend to defer to the people that can calculate it to a specific degree to let us know when we are ready. It just loving sucks because while we are a potent weapon against our foes, we would be doom to all we love and hold dear if we make a poor decision. And it only takes one, like trying to not breathe. As illuminating as that was, it probably set us back decades as far as the trust levels go. I’m really looking forward to talking with Ishamal and am reinforcing my view that we should go in there as if we don’t need to know anything from him and allow our mentor and second father to tell us what he needs to. Just tell him we missed him and give him a hug and let it come instead of desperately asking questions hoping to unlock the magic words that will undoubtedly not give us anything we want. Show some maturity. At most ask him if we should send the glowing orbs back when/if we get them. A
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Jun 3, 2020 01:59
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AJ_Impy posted:B: We now have a means of observing them from a greater distance, via the Embiggeners. If we can use those to keep watch, what we learn could be useful. I fear if we do nothing we will face two Kitrons after the next jubilee, then, four, eight and so on. This might be them at their weakest. B If we're going to trust that we will be safe on the Jubilee, how is that not even MORE reason to take action against Kitron, as long as it's before then? I don't see the connection between what we heard from Tudiya and voting A. Victis fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Jun 3, 2020 |
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Jun 3, 2020 02:07
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we’re safe as long as we’re in zepath
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Jun 3, 2020 02:17
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TK-42-1 posted:we’re safe as long as we’re in zepath Both Tudiya and the Nikall prophecy were very specific regarding attacks on the Jubilee, so yeah, stay home on the Jubilee. ~40 years from now. If Tudiya had heard otherwise he wouldn't even be entertaining the idea, which he is.
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Diogines posted:"Trust that I am confident enough to rely upon it, that Zepath will be safe upon the next Jubilee if we remain here. I will say no more on it." Tudiya low-key worshipping NIkall, I dig it.
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