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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




guess we're just ignoring the signed and notarized contract huh

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Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020
Probation
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Epic High Five posted:

guess we're just ignoring the signed and notarized contract huh

Hey, that could have been anyjuan

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/telesurenglish/status/1260042009592705027?s=20
https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1260042436887396353?s=20
https://twitter.com/KawsachunNews/status/1259985892963385344?s=20

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020
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https://thegrayzone.com/2020/05/10/guaido-mercenary-contract-venezuelas-maduro-us-bounty-death-squad/

'The contract signed by Guaidó and Silvercorp also enables the killing of anyone they deem to be “armed and violent colectivos.” For a sector of Venezuela’s upper-class opposition, the term “colectivo” is a dehumanizing, oft-used catch-all term applied to any working-class person. Trade unionists, pro-government protestors, even anyone riding a motorcycle is presumed to be part of an armed and dangerous gang in the lurid fantasies of the light-skinned elitists of Eastern Caracas. Therefore, the contract essentially permits Silvercorp to kill any member of the government’s popular support base with impunity.'

'Perhaps more worrying, however, is what Silvercorp envisaged its role to be after a successful coup. The contract stipulates that the mercenary organization would “convert to a National Asset Unit that will act under the direction of the Administration [Guaidó] to counter threats to government stability, terror threats and work closely” with other security forces.'

'Their missions would include, but not be limited to, surveillance, covert operations and target programming. In other words, Silvercorp would transform into a private paramilitary squad answerable only to Guaidó, crushing any opposition to his dictatorship, in much the same way death squads in Colombia and other Latin American countries have operated for decades.'

"Honor among thieves"

"A review of the document suggests a sense that Goudreau saw Guaidó as a sucker to be fleeced. Despite charging nearly a quarter-billion dollars for possibly a day’s work, Silvercorp also inserted a myriad of costly risers and clauses, including a $10 million bonus for a successful mission. The mercenaries added interest on payments, and a ten percent (therefore, over $20 million) administration fee on all transactions."

"However, it seems the US mercs wound up being the suckers, as Goudreau admitted that Guaidó has not transferred even a penny, not even the retainer fee, to him since October. “They kept promising to pay, week after week,” Goudreau told a Spanish-language TV station. Guaidó is infamous for being untrustworthy with money, and is widely accused of embezzling tens of millions of US aid funds. Why go ahead with such a dangerous mission? Perhaps he was blinded by the prospect of a massive payday, collecting bounties from both the DEA and from Guaidó’s team."

"While charging hundreds of millions of dollars, Goudreau was also short-changing his own employees, promising to pay the now-detained American mercenaries only between $50-100,000 to risk their lives for the operation, all while he stayed at his Florida home. It remains unclear clear who was the biggest chump in the bungled operation: Guaidó, Goudreau, or his naïve accomplices."

RIP Syndrome
Feb 24, 2016

The Unnamed One posted:

Man, neither here nor there, but all of this reminds me: Bacurau is a great loving movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKTejyk9ZIA

Good rec. Thanks.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

US is busy building new cafeterias for it's death squad allies
https://twitter.com/Southcom/status/1262395113717850112?s=20

El Salvador is going into a big crisis, and I guess death squads are cheaper for the US to fund than reperations
https://twitter.com/ivettemcg/status/1261696668216578048?s=20

keep an eye on this to see if the US goes full pirate and intercepts the ships
https://twitter.com/AP/status/1262083598187970561?s=20

social movements continue to struggle against the coup regime in Bolivia
https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1262379086451793920?s=20

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

Atrocious Joe posted:

US is busy building new cafeterias for it's death squad allies
https://twitter.com/Southcom/status/1262395113717850112?s=20

a death squad marches on its stomach

Pomeroy
Apr 20, 2020
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Adventures in MS Paint:
https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1262595361199329280?s=19

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
this owns

https://twitter.com/camilateleSUR/status/1263838087978852355?s=20

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Right wing police/military intervention installs anti-indigenous racist/fundamentalist Christian from niche party:
"This interim government is actually restoring democracy -- consider term limits and what OAS said about the election"

Military and police demand raises and "interim" government complies in exchange for delaying elections indefinitely as popular protests are culled:
*Crickets*

genericnick
Dec 26, 2012

Wait, what would Venezuala and Iran even trade?

Ora Tzo
Feb 26, 2016

HEEEERES TONYYYY

genericnick posted:

Wait, what would Venezuala and Iran even trade?

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1263099163123703808?s=20

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I think he means what would Venezuela give back

uninterrupted
Jun 20, 2011

CharlestheHammer posted:

I think he means what would Venezuela give back

probably gold?

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/SecPompeo/status/1256385932179185664?s=20

yeah Venezuela is trying to do as many deals internationally as it can with gold, since they're cut off from the world financial market. I know Venezuela has been using Turkey as a sort of go between for years because there is a close relationship there, so Turkey is unlikely to just seize the gold on behalf of the the US like the UK did. The US is a little less likely to try to screw over Turkey since it's a NATO member

Venezuela did try to launch their own cryptocurrency too, which I think is seeing some use domestically? it seemed a bit less dumb than regular crypto because it was backed by Venezuelan oil production. But that has of course collapsed, and all oil prices did later.

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

some good news. the tankers are making it to Venezuela
https://twitter.com/telesurenglish/status/1264361484433440773?s=20
https://twitter.com/venanalysis/status/1264361586258595840?s=20

Raiad
Feb 1, 2005

Without the law, there wouldn't be lawyers.



the us is partnering with also the us, checks out

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Psychos at HRW once again doing regime change propaganda for the US

https://twitter.com/tamarataraciuk/status/1265228438295777280?s=21

Venezuela has like 10 deaths to the US’s 100,000 (and we’re just getting started) and they shamelessly are pulling this poo poo, naturally not mentioning the murderous US sanctions either

Oh yeah and if you wanna look at South American coronavirus responses just look at Ecuador and Brazil

Fast Luck has issued a correction as of 02:50 on May 27, 2020

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
lol that now makes me doubt anything johns hopkins greens frogs university says

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Fast Luck posted:

Psychos at HRW once again doing regime change propaganda for the US

https://twitter.com/tamarataraciuk/status/1265228438295777280?s=21

Venezuela has like 10 deaths to the US’s 100,000 (and we’re just getting started) and they shamelessly are pulling this poo poo, naturally not mentioning the murderous US sanctions either

Oh yeah and if you wanna look at South American coronavirus responses just look at Ecuador and Brazil

send them to brazil instead

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Cao Ni Ma posted:

send them to brazil instead

Ecuador, Chile, Peru, and Brazil are all US allies and have major issues with COVID but ... we should really be worried about the US' enemies...

vyelkin
Jan 2, 2011
lol

https://twitter.com/timgill924/status/1265655648991281155

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

https://twitter.com/BenjaminNorton/status/1265307740773253121
AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR COMBAT TEAM

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

lol remember when the US deeply cared about protesters

also rightwing scumbags are still scumbags
https://twitter.com/kevinmcashman/status/1267937278996996097?s=20

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/TheGrayzoneNews/status/1267944538867367942

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
those are the "chavez eyes" fyi

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

i love the idea that Max Blumenthal, one of the most divisive media figures on the organized US far-left, is coordinating massive protests in the US

The Venezuelan Embassy Protection Collective is actually Antifa HQ

also DC protesters should definitely try to liberation the Venezuelan embassy

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
isn't Janisse Vaca Daza the "NGO" activist that's a State Dept operative that's also a Jared Leto cultist

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

gradenko_2000 posted:

isn't Janisse Vaca Daza the "NGO" activist that's a State Dept operative that's also a Jared Leto cultist
that's the one

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
Actually i keep hearing thst blumenthal is "divisive" or extremist, but i have no idea why

uninterrupted
Jun 20, 2011

Kurnugia posted:

Actually i keep hearing thst blumenthal is "divisive" or extremist, but i have no idea why

he doesn’t toe the US foreign policy line and that annoys a ton of state department-adjacent scumbags that report on foreign affairs

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

isn't Janisse Vaca Daza the "NGO" activist that's a State Dept operative that's also a Jared Leto cultist

Also a literal descendant of this guy who looted the country and made it lose their single port province to Chile in a war.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilari%C3%B3n_Daza

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Kurnugia posted:

Actually i keep hearing thst blumenthal is "divisive" or extremist, but i have no idea why

Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton are pretty bog standard commie shitposters who somehow landed positions of legitimacy through RT, their podcast, etc. I think Blumenthal gets more hate than Norton because his dad is some big shot in the Clinton orbit? Anyway neither of them seems particularly offensive or douchey, or at least no more than is the norm for extremely online posters who pivot into Journalism (tm).

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Lightning Knight posted:

Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton are pretty bog standard commie shitposters who somehow landed positions of legitimacy through RT, their podcast, etc. I think Blumenthal gets more hate than Norton because his dad is some big shot in the Clinton orbit? Anyway neither of them seems particularly offensive or douchey, or at least no more than is the norm for extremely online posters who pivot into Journalism (tm).

Max Blumenthal's dad is Sidney Blumenthal, a senior advisor to Bill during his administration, and Max himself was a Hillary Clinton supporter in 2008.

I think he's done a lot to shed a lot of that Democrat Establishment past, but people on the left were rightly suspicious if it was just a grift/phase.

People not on the left don't like Blumenthal and Norton because they're two loud (relatively speaking) voices on issues such as Venezuela, Palestine, and Syria. I know of people on the left who still aren't going to agree with their take that the OPCW is compromised and the gas attacks tagged as Assad's doing were a set-up.

gradenko_2000 has issued a correction as of 16:36 on Jun 3, 2020

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I always find it wild people think you can grift on the left. Like the most successful anything could come close to that money wise is chapo

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

gradenko_2000 posted:

Max Blumenthal's dad is Sidney Blumenthal, a senior advisor to Bill during his administration, and Max himself was a Hillary Clinton supporter in 2008.

I think he's done a lot to shed a lot of that Democrat Establishment past, but people on the left were rightly suspicious if it was just a grift/phase.

People not on the left don't like Blumenthal and Norton because they're two loud (relatively speaking) voices on issues such as Venezuela, Palestine, and Syria. I know of people on the left who still aren't going to agree with their take that the OPCW is compromised and the gas attacks tagged as Assad's doing were a set-up.

I’m a little bit suspicious of Norton because he was apparently pro-Syrian intervention until like, 2014, and so his about-face makes me think he may just be acting, but they seem like they are sincere, or at least as sincere as one can be for how online they are, and they are, admittedly, funny.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Jose posted:

I always find it wild people think you can grift on the left. Like the most successful anything could come close to that money wise is chapo

I think Krystal Ball and Saagar Enjeti are an outfit I'd identify as having faked progressive cred from the get-go, but even then, as you said, I don't know how much money they made off Rising and their book, so maybe not even a profitable grift.

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Lightning Knight posted:

Max Blumenthal and Ben Norton are pretty bog standard commie shitposters who somehow landed positions of legitimacy through RT, their podcast, etc. I think Blumenthal gets more hate than Norton because his dad is some big shot in the Clinton orbit? Anyway neither of them seems particularly offensive or douchey, or at least no more than is the norm for extremely online posters who pivot into Journalism (tm).

right, but usually theres some causal link, some offending article they wrote or something because in their podcasts and that greyzone thing they off as entirely on par with everybody else on the post chapo coolzone, so the hate they seem to get from within the coolzone is a bit xonfusing to me

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Lightning Knight posted:

I’m a little bit suspicious of Norton because he was apparently pro-Syrian intervention until like, 2014, and so his about-face makes me think he may just be acting, but they seem like they are sincere, or at least as sincere as one can be for how online they are, and they are, admittedly, funny.

i was pro syrian intervention in 2014 iirc. and then i changed my mind

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Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

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Kurnugia posted:

i was pro syrian intervention in 2014 iirc. and then i changed my mind

I mean that’s fair but you also aren’t a media personality who gets money or clout from your positions.

That said if Ben Norton is faking it then he is impressively dedicated to the bit and I respect it.

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