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please knock Mom! posted:I loving hate everyone who decides to play a child character in D&D and before I get quoted, no, your reason for doing so isn't cute or quirky enough to change my mind. Put if you play youths you get to do coming-of-age arcs!
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# ? Jun 5, 2020 19:18 |
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I just want to play Harry Potter
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# ? Jun 5, 2020 19:22 |
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There are stories that can be done with a child character, it is often done wrong of course by adults. But of course if a player is a child it should be reasonable for them to play a child character, although there would be some question of why the party is bringing a child along, then again if a child is better able to fight off monsters than the adult members of the party ...
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# ? Jun 5, 2020 19:23 |
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please knock Mom! posted:I loving hate everyone who decides to play a child character in D&D and before I get quoted, no, your reason for doing so isn't cute or quirky enough to change my mind. Hell yeah Also, I'm sure it's just adding to the chorus, but if you're going to surprise your players with new elements, please flag it. "You could swear you hit the same opening before, but now there seems to be some kind of plating." That's a good one for if they get tougher after being hit. But if it's changing somewhat randomly, throw in a "you move for a feint, but somehow it connected?" or on a miss "huh, that's funny. Your arrow threw the monster off as you'd expect, but the back of your brain is telling you that was way closer to a hit than you'd expect, it seems distracted." "Ha! It was an awkward attack, but somehow connected anyway. Looks like the monster was scared by whatever's behind you. Ok, whose turn is it, Eric's? Were you still planning on casting swift quiver here? "
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# ? Jun 5, 2020 19:24 |
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please knock Mom! posted:I loving hate everyone who decides to play a child character in D&D and before I get quoted, no, your reason for doing so isn't cute or quirky enough to change my mind. its fine if the player is a seasoned and skilled roleplayer. most players are not good enough to do it. i have had it work in exactly one of my games out of the hundreds i have run over the years
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# ? Jun 5, 2020 19:25 |
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I'm playing a teen wizard right now and it's going fine, but any younger and I feel like it wouldn't work (thank you all for talking me out of it earlier)
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please knock Mom! posted:I loving hate everyone who decides to play a child character in D&D and before I get quoted, no, your reason for doing so isn't cute or quirky enough to change my mind. Beverly Toegold V is the only good child character in D&D.
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# ? Jun 5, 2020 20:17 |
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Eh most games I've been in aren't played with such a tone where like a young teen wouldn't be appropriate as a travel companion. I don't think I'd do younger than like 12-13. But like I'm not playing in games with a ton of objectional content for a teen.
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With the talk of lovecraftian horror earlier, I thought I'd share a bit of prep I did tonight. For context: The party (five level 5 characters) finally crossed the island and arrived in Saltmarsh. This excites the warlock especially, because there's a library he can use to (hopefully) find out more about his patron. You see, he didn't exactly knowingly make a deal. Instead he found a tome, started reading it, and even though he couldn't understand it (which is surprising, because he is a studious and well read character) he felt a presence that gave him his powers and now compels him to do certain things. After deciding on the Great Old One archetype together, the player gave me free reign to decide everything else as I see fit. Whatever fits with the story I'm weaving. So anyway, here's what he'll find in the library: quote:You scan the titles of the many books on the many shelves surrounding you, mentally preparing for the hours you will need just to take it all in. It is indeed quite a collection and on many different topics. As you walk around to take in your surroundings, you absentmindedly trace the spines of several books with your fingers when suddenly you halt, one of your fingertips seemingly glued -but only for a moment- to a single nondescript book, small and bland. Taeke fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Jun 5, 2020 |
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Kaysette posted:Beverly Toegold V is the only good child character in D&D. Came here to post this
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please knock Mom! posted:I loving hate everyone who decides to play a child character in D&D and before I get quoted, no, your reason for doing so isn't cute or quirky enough to change my mind. My actual literal children are playing adult characters! I mean yes, this means that my five-year-old's character acts like a five-year-old thinks an adult would, but it never even occurred to them to ask.
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# ? Jun 5, 2020 21:43 |
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Considering how many skilled combat professions in Medieval times and earlier started in childhood (Jannisarries, Being a Knight, etc) I think it also presents a wide amount of easy to roleplay backgrounds. I think it makes sense if you're starting a fresh campaign from level 1.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Considering how many skilled combat professions in Medieval times and earlier started in childhood (Jannisarries, Being a Knight, etc) I think it also presents a wide amount of easy to roleplay backgrounds. I think it makes sense if you're starting a fresh campaign from level 1.
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# ? Jun 5, 2020 21:47 |
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Several prominent Roman generals/politicians started their careers at 14 to 16, I'm not sure what you're reaction is, but the historical precedent is there.
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# ? Jun 5, 2020 21:51 |
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Child heroes are an enormously popular trope in all fiction, let alone fantasy, and this weird new thread groove where actually that's bad is not a good take. Like if someone makes playing a child at the table weird, that's on them and maybe you, not the concept.
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please knock Mom! posted:I loving hate everyone who decides to play a child character in D&D and before I get quoted, no, your reason for doing so isn't cute or quirky enough to change my mind. I would like to hear the gory details of what prompted this in particular
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# ? Jun 5, 2020 21:57 |
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Raenir Salazar posted:Several prominent Roman generals/politicians started their careers at 14 to 16, I'm not sure what you're reaction is, but the historical precedent is there. I don't know about 5e in particular but most D&D random starting age tables begin at 16 for about this reason.
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# ? Jun 5, 2020 21:58 |
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When I hear "child" I think "under 10 years old, or maybe under 12". "Teenager" is a very different thing.
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BattleMaster posted:I would like to hear the gory details of what prompted this in particular Maybe they RP'd a Kender? Sodomy Hussein posted:Child heroes are an enormously popular trope in all fiction, let alone fantasy, and this weird new thread groove where actually that's bad is not a good take. Yup, and lets you also access some interesting backstories, like maybe your village had all the adults drafted to fight the King's war and you were pressed into the militia to help out and that's why you're a fighter while also grappling with the sudden onset of responsibilities you weren't ready for.
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# ? Jun 5, 2020 22:02 |
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I'm gonna say that the concept is fine but I've also never seen it implemented without being creepy and/or annoying.
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# ? Jun 5, 2020 22:06 |
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Play a warforged. Most of them are technically kids.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:Child heroes are an enormously popular trope in all fiction, let alone fantasy, and this weird new thread groove where actually that's bad is not a good take. well yes but also the odds of finding a good child hero in a tabletop game is like the odds of sinking a basket across the atlantic ocean. most players will either be too annoying, be too weird, make a depressing character, or make a bland character that you would forget is a child if they didnt remind you. the dm also needs to be on "bird"(extremely funny and clever play on words) as the wrong tone kills the character concept immediately
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# ? Jun 5, 2020 22:17 |
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Had a guy that played basically a Damian knock-off as a Warlock, with their Dad being their patron. Creepy in the good way. Well unless you really, really hate creepy children.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Play a warforged. Most of them are technically kids. Yeah my aarakocra is technically like four years old but they have a thirty five year max lifespan so I just play him as an inexperienced adult
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BattleMaster posted:I would like to hear the gory details of what prompted this in particular Dude my age playing a 12 year old girl who's a super smart wizard (I am annoyed just typing this, and yes I realize that is a flaw on my end, but dear god) This was never about kids playing as kids in D&D, that is cute and I should have probably mentioned it in my over the top vent post. Sodomy Hussein posted:Like if someone makes playing a child at the table weird, that's on them and maybe you, not the concept. You made a child character and badabing badaboom, now every instance of actual combat or capture carries awful connotations everyone else has to deal with. Lemme state that I'm fully aware how hypocritical I sound after telling people to 'get over' players and DMs using wacky voices by the way, and I'll probably get over it because the player in question is very normal. Orange DeviI fucked around with this message at 03:02 on Jun 6, 2020 |
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Sounds like basically most anime characters. I don't see the issue here.
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# ? Jun 6, 2020 03:05 |
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I was expecting something awful, not just a basic trope. Disappointed!
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please knock Mom! posted:Dude my age playing a 12 year old girl who's a super smart wizard (I am annoyed just typing this, and yes I realize that is a flaw on my end, but dear god) Actually no it's fine and cool to play Oliver but he's got weird plant magic from his dead family and you sound like a massive rear end in a top hat. Edit: This convo just makes me want to play Cuno but as a wizard. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Jun 6, 2020 |
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I'm deffo with the "child heroes are potentially cool, but odds are if somebody wants to play one their character won't be" Given the lack of a mechanical framework for it (i.e. you can't be a small Human), there's really not many "young character" concepts you can't execute with a 16 or 17 year-old character, and a lot of opportunities for awkwardness or upsetting some players at the table that you can avoid (violence being done to children and whatnot).
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No. 1 Apartheid Fan posted:I'm deffo with the "child heroes are potentially cool, but odds are if somebody wants to play one their character won't be Yes, this. Outside my main group (which won't include child characters in D&D because depicting violence against children is an immediate X from at least other two members and is probably gonna get an X from me too), here's what I'd want to know: 1) What are you expecting to get out of roleplaying a child? What kind of character arc do you want, and what related plot points are you expecting to see? 2) What does the child character do that a young adult character would not do, and what does the child character not do that a young adult character would?
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Actually no it's fine and cool to play Oliver but he's got weird plant magic from his dead family and you sound like a massive rear end in a top hat. I fully accept this verdict
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I thought up a homebrew custom background, as a fun imagination exercise for a former city watch character I'm creating. I probably won't use it for an actual character, considering that the amount of times this could be useful are limited and highly DM/campaign dependent, but as an exercise it was interesting. I'm unsure how to balance it, so I've left some things a bit vague. Thoughts on what parts are too strong, and what parts are too weak, or otherwise need tweaking? I probably erred on the side of too weak. quote:City Guard Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Jun 6, 2020 |
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Going to play a good old single class thief with a dagger. What are some good, lesser known items I can gently caress around with? I already know about the classics but I figure some of you guys have been doing this a lot longer than I have. Also looking for an efficient way to light stuff on fire with an item.
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# ? Jun 6, 2020 15:16 |
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I played in a one-shot where an adult played a child character that made everyone feel uncomfortable. They got aged by a ghost. "What the gently caress, so I'm going to be 21 forever?" "No, next year you'll be 22. "
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:I thought up a homebrew custom background, as a fun imagination exercise for a former city watch character I'm creating. I probably won't use it for an actual character, considering that the amount of times this could be useful are limited and highly DM/campaign dependent, but as an exercise it was interesting. its fine, remember that you can switch proficiencies around in a background to customize freely(albeit with a limited number of features) this is RAW, but nobody ever remembers that rule
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My child-char is a 15-year old warlock named Agnès Mystagogicon-Kaplan. She was arranged-married to a book with a demon trapped in it (long story) Just recently she defeated the plane's Baba Yaga analogue in single combat when her allies were thrown from a moving house. When her allies found her, they were like "Where's the witch?" and she was like "I'm the witch now."
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Eraflure posted:Going to play a good old single class thief with a dagger. What are some good, lesser known items I can gently caress around with? I already know about the classics but I figure some of you guys have been doing this a lot longer than I have. A flask full of lantern oil will create a flammable puddle of liquid or douse someone in the same. You can probably talk a DM into letting it ignite when shattered to create a mini-firebomb. It would only do 1d10 damage to enemies in the blaze, so isn't particularly strong as an attack option compared to just throwing a dagger at somebody(which gets to use proficiency on attack roll, gets to use Dex bonus and sneak attack), but might be useful to try and create environmental hazards or distractions. Could definitely be useful for a low level burglar rogue with bonus action item use. When I last played around with a burglar rogue me and the party artificer made a bunch of minor homebrew items I could throw out. Light stickers to slap on an enemy so we could pick them out in a fog cloud. Grappling hooks to pull foes off balance. Shrieker bombs that made a loud noise when activated. This was alongside all the base PHB stuff like caltrops, ball bearings, handcuffs and flashpaper. It's fun at early levels. All this stuff kind of scales off hard though- and for some godforsaken reason you're officially not allowed to use wands with the feature.
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pog boyfriend posted:its fine, remember that you can switch proficiencies around in a background to customize freely(albeit with a limited number of features) this is RAW, but nobody ever remembers that rule I know about that, the option I was planning to use, with only the existing options was: Skill Proficiencies: Tool Proficiencies: Equipment: Feature: Basically, I'd need to replace almost everything from Soldier. (I'd actually need to replace both Tool Proficiencies from Soldier, because my class would be Rogue, who already get Thieves Tools. But I have no idea what) (I assume that City Secrets applies to every city of a certain size, not just your home city, because it seems lame enough already even if it applies to all cities. "Oh boy, we can move through cities in half the time, this will be so incredibly useful!") Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Jun 6, 2020 |
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:(I assume that City Secrets applies to every city of a certain size, not just your home city, because it seems lame enough already even if it applies to all cities.) Yeah I'd check with your DM before you start playing just for clarification. In my last game, the DM kind of ruled that rustic hospitality from the folk hero background wouldn't work in the city we were in since they wouldn't know who I was, which kind of makes sense? But goes against how the feature is written.
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My 20ish year old Goliath is technically a child since he never completed his trial of adult. but no i do not play him as a child ElMaligno fucked around with this message at 17:23 on Jun 6, 2020 |
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