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CainsDescendant
Dec 6, 2007

Human nature




That seems like a silly thing to do before we shred it into wood chips, burn it, and bury the ashes far away

edit: a shameful snipe but we gotta destroy that tree y'all

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Mr. Prokosch
Feb 14, 2012

Behold My Magnificence!
What if we just let the tree eat us? Like pretend to be a cow and bury ourselves under those roots. I bet we'd learn a thing or two!

#Breathgate2020

Zodiac5000
Jun 19, 2006

Protects the Pack!

Doctor Rope
My hope is that the tree can be turned into something cool, in which case we can just take the W by destroying it as utterly as we can in the forge.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

TacoNight posted:

Why do people want to give away the cool light orbs we found? To appease a foreign god whose priestess asked nicely? We explicitly know we shouldn’t directly cooperate. It’s a potentially cool discovery that isn’t being taken from us, like with Amok’s scrolls.

I demand we put the lightbulbs in the "demon tree" to see if anything cool happens other than it looking neat
e: I mean the pom not the cult tree

then ask evrart what he thinks of them

then give them to the trio cause there's no good way for us to deal with them ourselves and they can make the problem go away. If we ask them to deal with the orbs appropriately then i'm confident they will.



JustaDamnFool posted:

Is it a Very Smart and Very Cool idea to give a small bit of Enkidel's blood to our planted demon tree to see how violently it reacts? It could be a useful way to settle how dangerous it is to humans, but I could imagine it could cause some issues.

i'm leaning towards very bad. I got a real bad feeling about this, blood has some kind of weird significance, Ish has recommended we never gently caress around with blood in the way Amok flicked a drop into our eye, mostly it's evil guys who love blood. Putting some on the pom is just way too casual for our level of "getting it"

SniperWoreConverse fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jun 6, 2020

Vagabong
Mar 2, 2019
Maybe we should eat some of the tree then? We might learn something if it counts as magical.

Olothreutes
Mar 31, 2007

Even feeding cattle blood to the tree has raised some religious heming and hawing about impropriety. Human and/or angel blood (or the extremely verboten combo form, nephilim blood) is surely a bad idea. Even I don't want to do that, and I think that tree is awesome. Let's just keep it as is, it's not harming anyone. We can do cool grafting experiments with it.

Look, if we graft a branch from that tree to a regular tree and it aggressively converts the normal tree in to a predator tree I'll admit it's probably bad. But that's probably the only way I'll come around short of direct divine instructions to destroy it from a melachim. I'm pretty sure we already sacrificed one of the fruit to El and nothing out of the ordinary happened.

Mr. Nemo
Feb 4, 2016

I wish I had a sister like my big strong Daddy :(
Hey, remember all those cool tips we maybe/maybe didn't hear about on the way from Karnak? Like the one about a melachim living in the forest, we should send someone to investigate those we DID hear about.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Crazycryodude posted:

I definitely want to ask Zeb about what we should do if we run into corrupted priests that are secretly serving a demon, seeing as that's now an actual thing we have actual evidence of. Basically nothing else, though, there's very little we can ask him about that wouldn't be ratting on ourselves.

yeah +1 to this, we were a little confused about how to handle that at the time until we lucked into rescuing Issachar

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva

Mr. Nemo posted:

Hey, remember all those cool tips we maybe/maybe didn't hear about on the way from Karnak? Like the one about a melachim living in the forest, we should send someone to investigate those we DID hear about.

Agreed

Olothreutes
Mar 31, 2007

Diogines posted:

Within a few more days the fruits stop growing in size. The stems which connect them to their branches are very thick and very strong. Not a single fruit fell to the ground when David last grew fruits upon it many years ago. In the dead of night you take a few fruits from the tree. They smell very good. You erect an altar beyond the city, douse them in oil, pray and light them with a bit of flint...

...nothing happens. Well, the fruit burns and it smells quite nice, indeed, it smells excellent and looks as if they would make a fine meal, but nothing else happens. Other than people wondering why the heck the "cursed tree" has suddenly flowered, nothing else occurs in the coming days and weeks which is obviously related to the tree. Unless there is clear interest in something else, you will put an even bigger fence up around the tree and otherwise leave it be. When it last grew fruit, eventually they were all re-absorbed, presumably the same will happen now, in time? People think it is very odd and people speculate as to why the tree has grown but there is no panic and none think it is a sign of imminent doom, more, something very odd.

If you have any tree-related questions or minor tree-experiments, ask away. But for the love of El, if people try to replicate the Sandal incident...

Anything else aside, El didn't appear to hate the fruit or love the fruit. Not that I support using an altar as a litmus test most of the time, but I think this outcome seems to indicate they aren't profane or detestable.

Vagabong
Mar 2, 2019
The feeling it get is that the tree is essentially akin to a giant venus fly trap as opposed to some sort of horrifying demon.

Toughy
Nov 29, 2004

KAVODEL! KAVODEL!

Random thought what if the person who nailed that house shut and set it on fire was Sampson's son and the grandson we're mentoring let's it slip.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

JustaDamnFool posted:

Is it a Very Smart and Very Cool idea to give a small bit of Enkidel's blood to our planted demon tree to see how violently it reacts? It could be a useful way to settle how dangerous it is to humans, but I could imagine it could cause some issues.

I'd love to do that but everyone will get angry at us.


JustaDamnFool posted:

The feeling it get is that the tree is essentially akin to a giant venus fly trap as opposed to some sort of horrifying demon.

Same. Until we know it's demonic, as opposed to monstrous, I think we shouldn't destroy a potentially valuable asset.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
We've had snarls smell it, right? It's not a good OR bad smeller, right? It's a predator-plant?

Oh god what if it ate snarls somehow

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

SniperWoreConverse posted:

We've had snarls smell it, right? It's not a good OR bad smeller, right? It's a predator-plant?

Oh god what if it ate snarls somehow

We'd have to carve it into a dog shape and pretend nothing happened.

Olothreutes
Mar 31, 2007

SniperWoreConverse posted:

We've had snarls smell it, right? It's not a good OR bad smeller, right? It's a predator-plant?

Oh god what if it ate snarls somehow

My phone doesn't like the archiver so I can't quote these directly, but Snarls has smelled it twice.

First time:
It has no fruit at the moment. You ask him to smell it.

Smells strange. Strange tree.

Can you be any more specific?

Very strange?


Second time:
Predator-plant. Strange.

CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

go see zeb without extended question time, only those already asked
go see Aaron tell him he'll be good to go in no time
go see Jalitha and get those seaweed cakes
go home and enjoy our forge


Don't make any decision regarding the orbs we don't have
Don't burn the tree (yet). Maybe build a bigger wall around it?

Zodiac5000
Jun 19, 2006

Protects the Pack!

Doctor Rope
Possibly dumb, definitely unrelatd to the current situation question:
Can Enkidel actually break wind if he wants? I have to think that given the Balls of Labaras' general level of crassness/irreverence in the field, some group of them has eaten enough beans to start a contest. I want to know if Enkidel can win those contests or if his divine blood has finally proven a real handicap.

Pustulio
Mar 21, 2012
I question our obsession with the tree, everyone is telling us it is bad, regardless of their alignment with El, as far as we have been able to find out, it does nothing except for make decent tasting fruits and also eats blood. Uproot it, see if Everstrike wants to make anything with it, sacrifice it to El if not, or just burn it if that isn't cool.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Pustulio posted:

I question our obsession with the tree, everyone is telling us it is bad, regardless of their alignment with El, as far as we have been able to find out, it does nothing except for make decent tasting fruits and also eats blood. Uproot it, see if Everstrike wants to make anything with it, sacrifice it to El if not, or just burn it if that isn't cool.

The tree obsession is because it's a Weird Thing that no one has actively tried to take from us.

There have been plenty of people suggesting we destroy it, but they're actually suggestions and not vaguely worded Orders to do so or else.

Part of it is curiosity, since we want to know what the tree's actual deal is, and part of it is because people keep telling us to get rid of it so it must secretly be cool and maybe will tell us who our biological father is and obviously They are just trying to stop us from finding out the cool thing the tree must be able to do.

Polgas
Sep 2, 2018


With one hand he saves gebs. With the other he commits goblin genocide. A true neutral.

I don't see a point in blood tree chat anymore. Ish said he'd take a look and we're definitely voting based on his findings.

Unrelated, we should find an enki spawn that is interested in smithing so she can get married to samson's grandson and learn smithing on the down low by pretending to be just there to hang out with her husband.

Mr. Prokosch
Feb 14, 2012

Behold My Magnificence!
Demon tree and blood tree are separate abominations we own. He's going to look at demon tree. Blood tree has been here for years.

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


I suspect Avery will say the blood tree will be somehow useful and neatly solve that problem anyways

Diogines
Dec 22, 2007

Beaky the Tortoise says, click here to join our choose Your Own Adventure Game!

Paradise Lost: Clash of the Heavens!

Victis posted:

Have you ever meet King Seir? Is he really a jerk?
"Not personally. But yes, probably."

Victis posted:

Was Issachar king when you visited Karnak?
"No."

Victis posted:

Since we've been there, do you have any fun stories about Karnak when you were there?
Ishamal tells you a lewd story about two young people, a man and a woman getting lost in an orchard as the man searched a golden apple, the story tells of the woman's increasingly frustration at the man's inability to find it. The story has many double entendres.

Polgas posted:

Can we still ask Tudiya about when the not wanting to be king started when Zepa clearly wanted to be king?
You finished with him, so alas, it is too late.

Polgas posted:

Can we still ask Tudiya about when the not wanting to be king started when Zepa clearly wanted to be king?
There are probably a bunch of reasons, which you probably know already. Chief among them is that it is a job with a lot of work with few if any real perks and restricts yoru freedom even more than Zepathan customs already restrict the very Blooded. It also is a great deal of responsibility.

Polgas posted:

And how was Zepath getting a high priest from Baitel when everything between Zepath and Baitel was demons?
I assume you mean in the distant past, before the Donut. It is not like there are demons behind every rock and monsters behind every tree. Presumably they came with an escort?

Polgas posted:

Ask Ish if having golden skin due to eating gold is a legitimate blooded power
"No. But it may help stop them from being poisoned by it."

Polgas posted:

if Enkidel could snort blooded bronze to get blooded bronze skin or if he's too different get the greenlight to convince uriah to snort some of blooded bronze.
Ishamal gives you... a look. A look as if you just proposed eating metal. That kind of a look.

Outrail posted:

Ish, when you say the world I know you mean Ur. But we're pretty sure the world is round. How far from Ur have you been? Have you seen the other side of the world? What's over there? How do you not fall off it? What about water? Is it just bare rock and confused birds? Could I walk around it with my sandals? Is there sky and stars over there? One of our boys is trying to find where the sun rises, or possible Baitapesh. Is he going to fall off?
The look continues.

the_steve posted:

Ask Ishamal: If, IF, I keep the orbs, would that put Zepath or Kavodel at any sort of risk that they otherwise wouldn't be?
"If you give them the orbs, they will accept them, but that is very literally all I have to say about the matter."

[...]

You won't talk with Zebanetha about your trip. You will return to Kavodel after visiting a few other people in Zepath. We are not ready to process returning to Kavodel yet, but a number of people did write-in votes about this so we may as well look at this issue now.



Swedish Thaumocracy posted:

"Would failing to return the Light-Bringing-Orbs endanger Zepath or Kavodel?"

Diogines posted:

The old woman speaks then Baateva translates “She says many of the gifts of the earth but that the secret ingredient is love. And now that you two have been introduced, down to business. The Matriarch says that the glowing spheres of light which you took the Temple of Nisaba do not belong to you and that you are to make arrangements to have them sent to the sacred hill Kazdack, the other things you took are not of her concern, but that you may not have the glowing spheres. She further says that she has no doubt you will do this because you are a clever young man and would know better than to offend the Mother of the Earth when what she has asked of you is so little. And of course, though you would not try to do this, that you won’t try to take Glides-Through-The-Grasses-Like-Joy-In-The-Wind back to your cities.”

Diogines posted:

Ishamal takes a drink and then says "If you give them the orbs" he motions towards the the entrance where you once met with the Trio "they will accept them. And that is all I will say about that."

Some part of your super-monotheistic education PROBABLY pokes in the back of the skull, VERY VERY HARD that cooperating with a false pretender, probably a demon who dares to claim divinity when there is only ONE TRUE GOD would make you both a heretic and a traitor. Because as you've been reminded and taught many times during your life there is only ONE TRUE GOD and it sure as heck isn't Nikall. And even trying to ask for help for the Orm got your laurels knocked off and a sea demon on your rear end shortly thereafter. Because those who seek El's approval don't make friends with heathens and their false idols, they smash and burn them both.

Or not. Maybe you don't recall that. Or maybe it isn't relevant or correct.

You asked Ishamal a few other questions about the orbs or things related to them, but all he would say is that if "give them the orbs, they will accept them" but that was all. Eventually Ishamal asks you "What will you do with the orbs?"

1. What do you want to do with the orbs?
A. The Trio can have them.
B. You don't know, but you are not giving them to the Trio.
C. You are not sure yet, you will think about it when Asahel returns.

Diogines fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Jun 7, 2020

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


A, make it officially not our problem

Boonoo
Nov 4, 2009

ASHRAKAN!
Take your Thralls and dive back into the depths! Give us the meat and GO!
Grimey Drawer
A

Toughy
Nov 29, 2004

KAVODEL! KAVODEL!

C we have the time to think over

Swedish Thaumocracy
Jul 11, 2006

Strength of >800 Men
Honor of 0
Grimey Drawer
A

All glory to El!

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
C

Greggster
Aug 14, 2010
A

FlocksOfMice
Feb 3, 2009
A. Now they're inside of our basement, and outside of our mind.

Zodiac5000
Jun 19, 2006

Protects the Pack!

Doctor Rope
A.

SerSpook
Feb 13, 2012




A

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Oh come on at least cram one into an embiggener before handing them over

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Zodiac5000 posted:

Yeah. We can't aid another divinity. We can give our crap to the Melachim, who we know from past experience will do *something* with stuff we steal that will hopefully ameliorate the problem.

It's the Urian equivalent of "we don't negotiate with terrorists" but the a donation of the requested sum is mysteriously made instead.

ya dangus
Jul 2, 2006
A

There Bias Two
Jan 13, 2009
I'm not a good person

A Not Our Problem

Hattie Masters
Aug 29, 2012

COMICS CRIMINAL
Grimey Drawer
A

Combo of doing the right thing and passing the buck. We're between a rock and a hard place and I think that the Trio are the way out.

Patrick Spens
Jul 21, 2006

"Every quarterback says they've got guts, But how many have actually seen 'em?"
Pillbug
B

So I can't help noticing that she doesn't want us to give the shiny orbs back. She wants us to give these things (taken from the multi-faith temple) to her own temple. And uh, not sure why we should do that? Like yeah, some Kadomin God across the entire world might get mad at us, but A) What has the Mother of Earth ever done for us? and B) what is she going to do about it? I'm remembering how we gave Indor a couple of Blue Stones, not knowing how valuable they were, and got totally ripped off. Let's keep these things and see if we can figure out what to do with them.

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Schwza
Apr 28, 2008
B El is #1 get hosed Nikall. Forge with those orbs!

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