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Khanstant posted:It had so many parts where I was actively dreading or hoping to avoid. Basically any fight with the fuckin like Tron monsters or whatever was just a slog. Being wolflink was fine, they just made those fights play out in a lovely way. As Wolf Link there's a really way to kill those tron-whatever monsters. They always show up in pairs of three. As Wolf Link, do the move that creates a circle around you and get all three monsters highlighted in the circle. Wolf Link then basically auto-kills all three.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I think I tapped out of Fifa around the Euro 2012 version and Call of Duty with whatever version had the fast stabby knife you got with 100 pistol kills. I've certainly had fun with both series but they are the go-to franchises for people that get into games as some kind of populist side hobby but again I'm not really trying to insult or drag down people who enjoy these franchises, it just makes me roll my eyes a bit. jesus christ
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Ugh, those Call of Duty and FIFA games aren't for those of us with refined tastes in gaming. They're just what's on the radio, metaphorically speaking. True gamers play the hidden gems like God of War, Doom, Horizon Zero Dawn, and Spider-Man.
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I think I tapped out of Fifa around the Euro 2012 version and Call of Duty with whatever version had the fast stabby knife you got with 100 pistol kills. I've certainly had fun with both series but they are the go-to franchises for people that get into games as some kind of populist side hobby but again I'm not really trying to insult or drag down people who enjoy these franchises, it just makes me roll my eyes a bit. L...Lottery of Babylon?
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about the Ocarina chat, it's not held up. I've never finished it and I feel like I was supposed to? I gave it a shot when it came out, on gamecube, and on 3ds. but it's just not that compelling to go all the way through. and I was kind of awed every time by how open everything gets when you start and get out into the field. and then I lose interest because everything's kind of a pain in the rear end. but I haven't finished a zelda game since one of the oracle ones, probably, so maybe it's just not my thing. I get why it was a big deal but it's not my deal.
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Imo people acting like it was a bad game is dumb, but I agree it does not really hold up. It was way fun when it came out but trying to play the remake on 3DS was a slog and I couldn't bother to finish it. Unpopular opinion. Many good games don't stand the test of time but that doesn't mean they were bad.
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One of the most well regarded games of all time is bad!
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I've never finished a Zelda game and never will but Ocarina is the farthest I got and that is the nicest thing I can say about the most overrated game series in history. Skyward Sword, Twilight Princess and The Minnish Cap are bad games with baffling designs about their presentation and design which were very easy to turn off and forget about. The worst thing about Zelda is I can picture an amazing 10/10 fantastic Zelda game in my mind but then you play a Nintendo one and it just seems like its doing a bunch of things to make the experience worse. Either the controls are awkward, or the voice acting is alien and childish for no particular reason or I'm just not compelled by the whole "Get bow, get boomerang, get bombs" style that has been milked for 30+years Maybe one day they'll do a gritty version of Zelda with professionally done voice acting and well directed cutscenes and more of an effort in making a compelling story. While they are making improvements they could try to do a combat system more engaging than the slightly more complex version of Rock, Paper Scissors that Zelda has been reliant on for so long. Basically, Horizon: Zero Dawn is sort of what a 10/10 Zelda game would look and play like JollyBoyJohn fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Jun 7, 2020 |
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Shibawanko posted:yeah it's true that no kid would ever discover that on their own but because itd be in some magazine at some point it would spread like a rumor and that just makes it cooler when you actually do find it the example that comes to mind for me is the first gameboy wario game. it has a lot of secret hidden areas and treasure, they're fun to find without being too obscure, the secrets have a good balance of feeling impactful but also not being necessary, and the broadcasting is at just the right level of specificity. Once you've beaten the final boss it tells you if there's a treasure in a level you haven't found yet but that's all you get to go off of. It's up to you to search the level and find them. This usually means taking a difficult path or using a movement mechanic in an unusual way - the levels are a great balance of mostly linear with some mazey branchiness, and the branches vary widely in how difficult, extensive, fun, and materially rewarding they are to explore. This is good because it doesn't make it obvious that you are either supposed to explore every side path or ignore every side path(what I did in DKC). Over time as you collect treasure the score screen at the end of each level fills with treasure and also entices you with the empty slots. If you explore right you find an entire hidden world that itself is full of hidden treasure and hidden levels. Find everything and then you get to look at a picture of a sick castle - good stuff. I replayed through the whole game recently and I got all the treasures and levels and had a great time doing.
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Waltzing Along posted:One of the most well regarded games of all time is bad! People love Majora's Mask. Let's not act like popularity is indicative of how good gameplay actually is.
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Okami is basically Zelda with Clover/Platinum combat. Though will warn you it's pretty long.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Okami is basically Zelda with Clover/Platinum combat. Though will warn you it's pretty long. I tried playing Okami around a year after it came out on wii at the behest of a friend, I just couldn't sit through that intro
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Careful about talking poo poo on Zelda, people in this thread totally lose their marbles if you make fun of their favourite one.
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Caesar Saladin posted:Careful about talking poo poo on Zelda, people in this thread totally lose their marbles if you make fun of their favourite one. i dare someone to poo poo talk Link to the Past. it can't be done
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Rutibex posted:i dare someone to poo poo talk Link to the Past. it can't be done pink hair link is dumb
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Caesar Saladin posted:Careful about talking poo poo on Zelda, people in this thread totally lose their marbles if you make fun of their favourite one. the last time I pointed out that OoT came out so late it was after the Dreamcast someone who i don’t think I’d ever seen in GBS before flew off the handle at me so hard they ate a probe lol
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Caesar Saladin posted:pink hair link is dumb gently caress, i never even noticed his hair is pink. i guess i am defeated 
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JollyBoyJohn posted:Maybe one day they'll do a gritty version of Zelda with professionally done voice acting and well directed cutscenes and more of an effort in making a compelling story. ...Darksiders?
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food court bailiff posted:the last time I pointed out that OoT came out so late it was after the Dreamcast someone who i don’t think I’d ever seen in GBS before flew off the handle at me so hard they ate a probe lol i've had two people in this thread absolutely get really mad at me for saying that Breath of the Wild isn't that great. Like, real mad. So be careful guys.
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veni veni veni posted:Imo people acting like it was a bad game is dumb, but I agree it does not really hold up. It was way fun when it came out but trying to play the remake on 3DS was a slog and I couldn't bother to finish it. Its not dumb to say that the game is bad, when it is in fact bad. There wasn't anything else like it at the time, so it was very novel. That's not the same as being good. A lot of the beloved games from our childhoods were bad, but we didn't realize it at the time because we were children.
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Ever gone back to play a game from your childhood and it's even better than you remember now you don't suck at it?
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Rutibex posted:i dare someone to poo poo talk Link to the Past. it can't be done it’s like two dungeons too long
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Ever gone back to play a game from your childhood and it's even better than you remember now you don't suck at it? gargoyle's quest for gameboy, yeah actraiser too, best action game on the snes
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Shibawanko posted:actraiser too, best action game on the snes yeah but the city building is just pointless busy work
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Shibawanko posted:gargoyle's quest for gameboy, yeah gargoyle's quest was one of the first games I ever beat on my own when I was an 8 year old child. along with metroid II. i do not think i could beat those games today again without a guide.
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Gargoyle’s Quest is the best in its series: Demon’s Crest has amazing art and music but the level design and powers are half-baked; clearly had development issues of some kind given how 3/5 fire crest powers are utterly pointless and infinite hover trivializes the platforming
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Bonaventure posted:Gargoyle’s Quest is the best in its series: Demon’s Crest has amazing art and music but the level design and powers are half-baked; clearly had development issues of some kind given how 3/5 fire crest powers are utterly pointless and infinite hover trivializes the platforming yeah i don't even really like demon's crest, something about the combat doesn't feel as fun as gargoyle's quest does, the levels are also less vertical gargoyle's quest 2 is alright but i never got far in it
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Gargoyle’s Quest 2 is just mediocre, some parts are fun but a lot of the levels suck and the world somehow feels smaller more limited than the gameboy game
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Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:gargoyle's quest was one of the first games I ever beat on my own when I was an 8 year old child. along with metroid II. i do not think i could beat those games today again without a guide. I think I'll make a retro games thread for 'games you beat once and never will again'. For me, Star Fox on Route III.
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Bruegels Fuckbooks posted:gargoyle's quest was one of the first games I ever beat on my own when I was an 8 year old child. along with metroid II. i do not think i could beat those games today again without a guide. it was the first game i ever owned, next to tetris and not counting a couple of games on my dad's atari ST. i specifically requested it for my 5th birthday along with the gameboy itself. i remember being scared of the first boss (that hosed up fish creature), the way it emerges from the mud at the end of level 1 with the music changing is pretty rough. i think at that age i just got to the second boss but it was frustrating so i didn't actually beat it until years later. game rules
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the gameboy music sound channels all going silent to accommodate the huge “BRRRRRVEOW” that happened every time you hit a boss... fuckin intense
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Bonaventure posted:the gameboy music sound channels all going silent to accommodate the huge “BRRRRRVEOW” that happened every time you hit a boss... fuckin intense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JuH15ozU7z4&t=59s listen to the sound when you beat the 4 eyes boss, it's like the gameboy is blowing apart from the inside or something, it's nuts that they pulled this off on such a primitive system, it also has a whole RPG part attached as well this was also the boss that i was stuck on as a kid, so when i finally did beat it and that sound came out of nowhere it was just this massive triumph and i probably got a boner
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Caesar Saladin posted:i've had two people in this thread absolutely get really mad at me for saying that Breath of the Wild isn't that great. Like, real mad. So be careful guys. Pointing out a bunch of stuff you said that was outright wrong is not getting "real mad" no matter how much you like to spin that narrative anytime someone disagrees with you, and are clearly getting mad yourself. E: I don't think anyone except you wants to start up another botw chat though. So lets move along. veni veni veni fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Jun 7, 2020 |
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d3lness posted:People love Majora's Mask. Let's not act like popularity is indicative of how good gameplay actually is. Majora’s Mask is popular and it owns actually
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Pretty much everything good for the N64 besides Mario came out late in its lifespan, really.
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i don't think majora's mask is really any better than oot, they're extremely similar games
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Waltzing Along posted:One of the most well regarded games of all time is bad! i mean a lot of well regarded games are garbage. just look at final fantasy 14 Rutibex posted:yeah but the city building is just pointless busy work the city building LOOKS like pointless work but while you're "supposed" to be building up a large population, its actual purpose is to hide bonuses and useful items that would be awkward to put in a stage you only get one shot to go through. however, this is more apparent in the japanese version, where you level up much more quickly and reach the level cap at like 60% of the pop it requires in the international release (where you need to fully maximize your population to reach the max level). Fur20 fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jun 7, 2020 |
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Shibawanko posted:i don't think majora's mask is really any better than oot, they're extremely similar games Majora's Mask is of the time basically what would be called 'expanshalone' nowadays, given it was made on OoT's engine as basically a spinoff twist on the formula.
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